― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
― russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 10:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
― robin (robin), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago) link
― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
It's high time 'Frank Sinatra' was remixed, edited, and re-released, though. An absolutely storming, seminal record. And it sounds awesome in a club.
― russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
― simon 803 (simon 803), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago) link
― robin (robin), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
I thought Miss Kittin was interesting on Kittenz and Thee Glitz but descended into self parody after a while, I guess like most of the electroclash stuff seems to have done.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
Surely she has a point, especially re: everything techno/electro?
descended into self parody after a while, I guess like most of the electroclash stuff seems to have done
But that's the whole idea, isn't it?
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago) link
― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
How do you mean Siegbran?
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago) link
not FAR behind i'd say...its not really advanced music conceptually (sonically perhaps but then again so much of it is minimal, not even minimal complex/intricate) - but Germany's where the most activity in the field now is so fair enough
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago) link
Kittin has a mix album coming out soonish. I'll give you a copy when I get hold of it Toby.
I'd argue against Kittin and the Hacker being self-parody. I know K's become the by word for sick of it all Euro-trash vocals, but I think that's mainly down to poor imitators.
I've only seen her play once and I thought she was very good. This was early March. It was the first time I'd heard 'Ripping Kittin' and she managed to get a load of fashion-y too cool for school people dancing to 'Satr Guitar.'
― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago) link
I think my problem is I always asserted it was the music I liked in electroclash through the long debates here and not the image particularly and now that I feel the music has dipped in quality or at least moved away from what I found interesting in the first place I am increasingly annoyed by the rest of the schtick.
To be honest a significant factor behind this is that I am completely useless at "getting" any non obvious electronic music, so the electroclash that has moved towards IDM a bit is totally lost on me.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
I *really* hate the song that consists of "I want to be... a porno star" over and over. Isn't that on Futurism? Can't remember who it's by. Ugh. Could it be any more hoxtonmulletesque? S'all gone a bit yawn.
There is some hope though. What I've heard of the Tok Tok vs. Soffy O album sounds really fresh - "jean" even sounds like Dead or Alive!
― elisabeth k, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago) link
― russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
anyway, thats GREAT! the album is really good too. in fact, that album might be my favourite out of all this bizness
― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Macattack (Macattack), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
― russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
a sure sign that the bandwagon is over.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago) link
Fopp's a fantastic shop.
― russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
i mean that obviously there is now a warehouse full of overstocks of gigolo records that fopp has bought cheap.
suck on that and swivel ya mumping git.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
That "I left my bad panties..." line was actually in the Guardian. Elisabeth flatters me by giving me credit for it.
― Tag, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago) link
Ronan I've not heard Futurism 2 but I think Parallax Corporation, when they're bad, are really bad and thus the idea of their "worst" track gives me the fear. I just finished up a review of Cocadisco and it occurs to me that I/F's head is the size of a small planet at this point. (NB contrary to that sentence above I think Cocadisco is mostly solid and functional)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago) link
thanks anna! you're a star.
i think gareth is otm re: idea of theatre etc. also i totally don't understand this kittin-hating (not perhaps on this thread, but elsewhere on ilm); yesyes she's doing bored germanic vocals, but no-one seems to be able to point out who she's ripping off/why she's a "self-parody" now/what's so wrong with bored germanic vocals anyway.
(i am rather tipsy so apologies if this makes no sense.)
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
Fopp still IS a great record shop - if you care to look, there's a massive vinyl section there - well, there is in the Bristol shop, anyway, apparently not in the Bath one, though. And no, I have no personal stake in the company. I wish.
And books and DVDs.... cool.
― russ t, Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago) link
The songs I like on Futurism are
Daniel Diamond-Champu (cos it's house)Colorsound-Fly With Me (also house)Arthur Argent-Hold Your Head Up (soulwax remix) (also housey)
And some other ones I can't remember cos I don't have the box handy.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Headmistress Zarinka (tracerhand), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
And CD 2:Princess Superstar: Perfect (Acapella)DJ K: Plastic PeopleEl Loco: IbizaCajmere: Percolator (Keep Movin Mix)Armando: 151 (Terrace Mix)Misc: Vakuum AudioMy My: SerpentineFemale vs Regis: Avon 1 (James Ruskin Mix)Adam Beyer: A Walking Contradiction (Part 1)Fixmer/McCarthy: Freefall (Hacker Remix)Chemical Brothers: Base 6Drexiya: Lost VesselPerspects: 13 (in 2 Parts)GE & GM: Seven ElevenModeselektor: HasirMike Ink: Paroles (original)Awesome 3: Dont Go (Kicks Like A Mule Mix)Front 242: First In, First OutDJ Maxximus & Something J: DestinySquarepusher: My Red Hot CarAcresome: Perfect Girl
Maybe it's the other way around: the sleeve of my copy says CD 1 is supposed to be the "Perfect Night" and CD 2 the "Perfect Day". On the CDs it's the other way around. Never mind: they're both awesome. And how difficult is it to define night and day exactly. I'd say CD 2 is the saturday 4am mix, CD 2 the sunday 11 am mix.
But the beginning of CD 1, when this Wagon Christ track blends over into Monolake and it gets a bit darker when it comes to Baby Ford, then way darker when this Donato Dozzy thing kicks in is so awesome: and when out of somewhere far away Sarah Cracknells voice starts so sing - easily one of the most beautiful 15 minutes I heard in a long time. Or this great trance thing "Ibiza": yes! And then Misc being blended in this tricky My My tune. Beautiful. And then Mike Ink's Paroles and the Awesome 3: Hey, Breakbeats! That's Techno too!
Great CD, especially because it has such a broad range of styles. Without ever being eclectic.
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― harshaw (jube), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
(hi tobias!)
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Harshaw: Sub-par?
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― harshaw (jube), Thursday, 23 February 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.basic.ch/ram/expr000518.ram 1:30http://www.basic.ch/ram/expr990722.ram 1:00http://www.basic.ch/ram/fuel981229.ram 3:45
Yes that one's almost 4 hours long, from 1998 - encoding quality is below average as a result, it's a 20kb/s stream - recorded at the Fuel Cafe which used to be just below the station. It's very good, she's having fun.
― Memories are made of DISS (blunt), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I couldn't find a good upload of the all-time classic Muzik cover CD mix, they all had these tiny but very annoying gaps between tracks, so fixed up a version myself, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2EjdwoZ2uE
― Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 January 2025 09:06 (yesterday) link