Is this true psychedelia or just a side effect of psy influences in
music for so long? How many times will psychedelia come 'round and did
it ever leave anyway?
As for The Ladybug, the lyrics, the album sleeves, and especially the
music could be straight outta the 70s and definitlely has a pH of less
than 7. At the very least, they sound like this decades version of
Camper Van Beethoven. And if you don't think Camper was an psy band,
consider for a moment that one of them buried 15 or 20 tracks of music
reel in the desert to protect them from cosmic rays and the songs were
never heard or found again (not to mention the fact that it's just
common knowledge). But, to me, Ladybug's music sounds even older-- like
authenticly psychedellic--just like the Grateful Dead half the time
(no, not the popular "American Beauty" or "Workingman's Dead" albums)
with a stand-in on vocals -- and like some of the more obscure bands
from that era.
So, seeing as how some of you probably know them, I'm wondering what
you could offer me as insight. I'm NOT expecting that they're crazy
shroom heads always getting messed up. They probably did it in college
and had some profound experiences. I wouldn't be surprised if they
haven't dosed or whatever in years and years, actually. It all does get
boring rather quick. But, the lyrics and artwork do make "stoned
things" seem like either a current pasttime or really fond memories. (copied and pasted directly from the last place I posted this question, for those who are on several lists)
― Nude Spock, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
OK, on Ladybug Transistor, my best friend/room mate in NYC had been
friends with Gary since they were kiddies. He was part of the
Spacemen3, Loop, JAMC, early MBV-loving social scene I fell into in
NYC in the late 80s/early 90s, as described in my "how you first
heard your favourite band thread. (I'm not saying this to name-drop,
thanks, I'm just saying where I get my information from- you do get a
different perspective on people you've had smoking pot and eating
macrobiotic food in your kitchen.)
So, well, do they/have they used actual hallucinogenics? Erm, well,
they have in the past. Don't know if they still do, as we lost touch
about 5 years ago, so I can't help you there. But to answer your
question, yes, I believe in his case, yes, it is "true" psychedelia,
and not something aped off a record collection. (a feeling I *do*
sometimes get from other bands.)
However, I do have to venture my own personal theory on these
things... I often think that liking or creating a certain kind of
music is a result of a certain *natural* brain chemistry rather the
result of drugs. People who have this kind of brain chemistry are
actually attracted *to* hallucinogens because the drugs (and druggy
music) recreate a sensation or a longing that already exists.
I know that I heard and loved, and just *bonded* with music of
a "psychedlic" nature years before I ever even smoked pot. (I can't
even smoke pot any more, it turns me into a raving, paranoid wreck.)
Many of the people in that (I hate to use the word "scene" because it
wasn't- it was just a group of friends who hung out at the same
places and liked the same music, while "scene" implies something
negative.) social circle had very similar experiences.
So, even though I've probably strayed pretty far from your question,
sometimes I don't even think that taking psychedelic drugs are even
*necessary* to the creation of truly psychedelic (meaning "mind-
expanding") music. Some of the most psychedelic stuff I've ever heard
is His Name Is Alive, for example. Warren DeFever didn't even drink
when much of that stuff was recorded- the gorgeous and often highly
psychedelic soundscapes were recreations of hypoglycaemic episodes he
suffered as a teenager.
Then you get bands like the Dandy Warhols, who started out making
incredibly mind-blowingly psychedelic and textural music. But as soon
as their recording budget started expanding to fit proper, hardcore
rock star drug habits, their music sometimes strays into Eagles-like
stoner-boredom. Especially live. (BTW, I say this as a huge DW's fan,
rightfully criticising a band I have a great regard for.)
I think the affinity for music of that colour and texture is
something hard-wired into the brain. In my experience, drugs mimic a
state that already exists, and is expressed in the music that I love.
Hence why, for me, drug use *did* "all get boring rather quick".
I've spoken to many people about this subject- just funny cause Gary
was one of the first people I spoke to it about ages ago. And a lot
of people who have "got over their drugs phase", and also a reformed
heroin addict who loves dronerock- many of them have actually agreed.
Anyway, I'm rambling. Sorry.
― masonic boom, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)