Pop Eye 10/6/01

What a load of rubbish.

just out of interest pinefox, what was the last record in the charts you liked?

Angel is the worst song ever. Really.

Marti Pellow? Shouldn't he be starring in a dinner theatre production of Phantom of the Opera by now?

However, his success is somehow more explicable than Muse charting at all. An intervention should be arranged for any child caught with their single.

On a somewhat more positive note, it is nice to see Basement Jaxx...

Yeah, "Romeo" is the only new thing there that seems worth discussing - personally I think it's excellent, although the irritating thing with Basement Jaxx is that such a reaction seems standard. "Yeah, it's amazing, so what?" sorta. However I suspect that come year end it'll be up there in my list of favourite love songs.

The snippet of the I Monster song sounds interesting - the whole song could be awful or marvelous.

Oh God, Basement JaxX...the new M-People...I remember when they were on the Brits, and they got top billing...yeah, yeah...Awful, neo- yuppie music. Even the Steps songs are boring, they are just going through the motions now. Shaggy's next single is even worse. It's a lull, I tell you a lull!...When's that Moulin Rouge thing coming out?...Comeback Radiohead all is forgiven!

"The new M-People"?????

That hurt my feelings!

Comeback Radiohead all is forgiven!
Why would we need'em? We have Marti Pellow back!

I rather like that Brandy/Ray J cover of "Another Day In Paradise". The Phil Collins 'tribute' album is a great idea, provided it's restricted to r&b reinterpretations.

No, if people are going to do a Phil Collins tribute it should be restricted to the tackiest artists possible: Christina, Aaron Carter, O-town, etc.

Phil's comments about winning an Oscar was *proof* that he was a great artist have always amused me.

I hate Phil Collins with a fiery passion.

Having said that, "Another Day In Paradise" is actually a really great song musically, what with that awseome Casio keyboard "plinky-plinky" riff and the absolutely killer chorus. I have no idea what the song is about because I was always too entranced by the chord progression/vocal harmony to pay attention to what Phil was singing about.

I have no idea what the song is about

Well, it was a time when all the big acts had the obligatory "social commentary" song. So the song basically boils down to passing by a homeless person, and then telling people they should feel bad about homelessness. Mind you, it doesn't tell people do actually do anything about it, but we should all feel really really bad.

As I'm sure Phil does as he polishes his Oscar.

ha ha , yeah i imagine him "polishing his oscar" 'til he "comes in the air tonight".

i wished i'd said that.

could we all just pretend that i said that?

― gareth, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bollocks!

Yay! It's not just me! *happy dance*

Re: "Another Day In Paradise", that's really painful, because I honestly heart the music. Actually, it's the only song he's done which isn't a direct rip-off of "Wish You Were Here" that I really like out of his solo work. (I will defend large chunks of _Invisible Touch_, much to the amusement of all.)

Is "Sususudio" (I don't even think I spelled it right, but I'll be damned if I bother to look it up) a solo single? Because if so, I do like that song.

...cred ebbs away softly but gently...

Why do I know how to spell "Sussudio"? I blame my father.

Anyway, that was off of the _Face Value_ album, which my dad had on cassette and used to play endlessly in the car. (We used to jump for JOY when he'd switch to Foriegner _4_.)

Agh. I just remembered that I also enjoyed "Billy Don't Lose My Number". My cred follows yours into the gutter, Nicole! (As if I had cred in the first place...)

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings...I was in ranting mood...but anyway, I forgot Faithless, but they inspire so little that I can't be bothered!

I still think Jamtronik did the best version of "Another Day In Paradise" ...

Is "Sususudio" (I don't even think I spelled it right, but I'll be damned if I bother to look it up) a solo single? Because if so, I do like that song.

That was his System rip-off song. Anyone like the System?

I totally forgot "Billy Don't Lose My Number". I like that one too -- must be turning into Patrick Bateman.

James, don't sweat it. It's just one of my expressions.

the system were great, even if my knowledge of them is limited only to "you are in my system" and "don't disturb this groove." really inventive stuff, like a more electro jam & lewis, a bit of a bridge between the r&b and hip-hop of the day. david frank hasn't been up to too much lately, though he's the sole reason to like christina's "genie in a bottle."

"Don't Disturb This Groove" is DA BOMB! Oh damn, now I have to find a copy of that song post haste...

cred? who's worried about cred? if you're stuck listening to a/c radio, you could do a LOT worse than phil collins. i mean, how many of those artists were brian eno regulars? i think he picked up a lot from working with eno because many of his songs sound good, e.g. the drums on "in the air tonight," the horns on "sussudio," the synths on "hold on my heart," etc. i think it's time for a critical re-evaluation of the work of phil collins (indeed, the tribute album is already out there).

I still think Jamtronik did the best version of "Another Day In Paradise" ...

I don't know that one. Was it house-ified?

I'm trying very hard to think of an adult contemporary act who is a LOT worse than Phil Collins... Um... Drawing a blank here.

I guess Faith Hill counts. Sheryl Crow and Celine Dion are better. I've run out of A/C acts. (For once, I'm not embarrassed about revealing a heretofore unknown gap of musical knowledge...)

Fastball is much worse than Phil Collins. So is Jon Secada. And Gloria Estefan. Faith Hill was better when she did songs like "Hey Baby Let's Go To Vegas", but she's much worse now. "Sussudio" is my grandmother's favorite song!

I'm trying very hard to think of an adult contemporary act who is a LOT worse than Phil Collins...

A lot worse than Phil Collins now...no, but his songwriting was actually very good in the early to mid 80's. There was a certain energy about a lot of the early 80's pop/rock that seemed to dissipate later in the decade. I blame the Yamaha DX7 and Roland D50 synthesisers for a lot of this...also the Live-Aid concerts.

NO WAY is Jon Secada much worse than Phil Collins. Ditto Gloria Estefan.

I think a lot of my Phil backlash is related to that PAINFULLY AWFUL final Genesis album. "You're no son/You're no son of mine-" *smack* SHUT UP ALREADY.

David: the Jamtronik version of "Another Day In Paradise", which followed only a few months behind the original in the spring of 1990, was reggaefied Europop in the style later adopted by Ace of Base. Which doesn't sound too good (yes, "All That She Wants" was wonderful, but it was a one-off), but somehow it was.

Favourite 1984-ish mainstream / corporate UK pop songs: Nik Kershaw's "The Riddle" (for the totally out-of-place-and-time mysticism, if nothing else) and Wang Chung's "Dance Hall Days" (for the regret and echo of old means of entertainment: "dance hall" in that song always makes me think of the 1930s rather than reggae).

There are TONS of adult-contemporary artists who are far far worse than Phil Collins. At least he doesn't show off his voice much - ditto the rather harmless Faith Hill. But even if you disregard the Bolton/Dion big-voiced schlockmeisters, you have people like Peter Cetera or, worse, people who never do make it anywhere besides AC radio - Mark Cohn, plus that dude who sang "In The House Of Stone And Light", people like that.

AAAAGH.

I had completely banished Michael Bolton from my memory. THANK YOU SO MUCH for putting him back in.

You're welcome, Dan. It's important to remember who the Enemy is. Plus, isn't it the coolest thing that his latest album didn't even make the *top 200* ??

Damn, you remember Jon Secada. I'm sad for you.

i dont have a clue at what the hell you guys are going on about