Weak Become Heroes = Once In A Lifetime!

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This is true, and only proves that garage-punk:streets::punk:talking heads.

Like true on every level I mean and I am so very proud of this connection.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

One I like and the other I don't. But which is which?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

kc flightt "planet e" to thread!

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

AARRGGHH! My head has just exploded. I don't UNDERSTAND.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Much as I love WBH I can't imagine me listening to some fantastic hip-hop mix on the radio, becoming obsessed with this shimmering, rippling sound underneath one of the tracks, a sound that's like the most amazing, celestial thing I ever heard, then hearing that sound again, on it's own, in a record shop and saying excitedly to my friend "wow! I love that sound, what's that?" and he says "Oh, that's Weak Become Heros by The Streets"

― phil jones (interstar), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

well Skinner is no one-man Eno-Heads.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

nonetheless i think a bootleg mash-up is in order to test this interesting thesis

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I love how, in "Once in a Lifetime", if you turn it up real loud, you can hear somebody going "da-dup-duh-dup" along with the bassline.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, that was me.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

oh fuck off... no comparison. I'm sorry but once in a lifetime is one of the greatest pieces of pop music ever. the comparison between mike skinner and eno/byrne is so out of whack.

― simon 803 (simon 803), Monday, 27 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

once in a lifetime is one of the greatest pieces of pop music ever

The Nediverse disagrees.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Then the Nediverse is wrong. (on no! SCHIZM! Oh NO!!!)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Fret not, Mr. Perry. I know the pieces fit, for I watched them fall away.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

can't see any "connection" apart from vague lyrical/thematic "how did i get here?" link perhaps. more concrete proof of "on every level" please.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

There's the whole "shimmery backdrop of synth music over bouncy beat" vibe as well, Marcello (agreed, it's on a very superficial level).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. "WBH" doesn't strike me as particularly "shimmery"; more like a deliberately askew house riff fitting into a two-step template, presumably representing the dichotomy between then and now. Stillness set against vibrancy? Possibly.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Both have a simple groove that shakes my ass, even when I'm sitting down.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The entirety of the "WBH" background music is shimmery synths for the piano riff to romp over, much like the entirety of the "OiaL" background music is shimmery synths for that monstrous bass line to romp over.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay so the framework for what I'm talking about is here. "Oceanic" backing, spoken narrative, transcendent "here and now" sung chorus (the two even share similar melodies!), vague sense of loss and nostalgia for that epic moment.

Someone who knows how (i.e. not me) really NEEDS to do this mash-up.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 January 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

But mash-ups are more fun when the songs have nothing in common!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 January 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Also once in a lifetime I read as punk nostalgia for disco, which is a v. subjective and hard to defend thing, but it maps v. nicely onto garage nostalgia for rave, no?

if only it were true.

sigh.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 January 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

people do use the same arguments to label mike skinner a fraud that they used to label talking heads the same, ie. they wear golf shirts

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 27 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Golf shirts are the ultimate rock n' roll subversion.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone who knows how (i.e. not me) really NEEDS to do this mash-up.

I probably have the knowhow and the time but I'll only do it if no one more skilful/intelligent volunteers.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Golf shirts are the ultimate rock n' roll subversion.

I don't see Hootie and the Blowfish manning the barricades anytime soon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

That's cos they wear FLANNELS, not GOLF SHIRTS!

Why don't you like Once In A Lifetime?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

That's cos they wear FLANNELS, not GOLF SHIRTS!

Clearly a dastardly sneak attack.

Why don't you like Once In A Lifetime?

I'm just not a fan of the Talking Heads at all, really. Can hum bits of the hits of but have never felt compelled to own them or hunt them up for listening. I'm still surprised at how highly they're regarded, and David Byrne has been a distinct unfavorite of mine for years. If so many bands that I like did indeed get a particular inspiration from them, and that seems to be the case, then they're my candidate for the band I care for the least that had the most impact on what I've enjoyed over the years. (If we're talking individual performers, then the answer would be Dylan.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 06:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think "It's Too Late" would be the better musical comparison, the one I'd ask the record store clerk about.

For a mashup, how about Desmond Dekker's "OO7 (Shanty Town)" under the chorus of "Once in a Lifetime"? BTW, El-P is the biggest Remain in Light fan and I keep listening for snippets on his records...

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

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