Richie Hawtin

Search: "Consumed", "Marbles", "Helikopter", "Spastik", "Substance abuse"

(also search that plus 8 dbl cd best-of with speedy j's "patterns" remix - i know it's not hawtin but search it anyway.)

all the dj sets i've d/l-ed by him have been great, and the 1st 20mins or so of his set at the last lost were fantastic too (i only wish i could remember the rest!).

Actually, I don't think I've heard any non-Plastikman stuff he's released himself. Richie Hawtin stuff that isn't Plastikman, preferably of the noisy earbleed lunacy variety - search and destroy please.

Search: 'Spastik' aka Little Drummerboy on E. Esp. as mixed in a set by the man himself.
Also search the Cybersonik stuff, DE:9 Closer to the edit and of the Plastikman albums I tend to gravitate towards Consumed. Although the first track on Sheet One is wonderful (the rest of the album isn't bad either).

it's a nice image, picturing him futzing around with a two-cartridge tone arm, but who could prefer this above mike ink or maurizio?

decks fx and 909 is really good,i always forget how good it is actually until i listen to it,it kind of slows down at the end which is a bit odd but its one of the best examples of that type of one track gradually taking over from another with no fucking around mixing...
as for de9,i've listened to it a few times and never really got into it...
random mixes people have on tape vary from really good (the first half of live at sonar 2001) to fairly mediocre
the problem with the way he mixes is that,while i prefer it,you have to have fucking deadly tunes all the way through,cause if you're going to keep the mixing simple you have to put more effort into ensuring everything doesn't sound the same...

I really friggin dig Decks, FX & 909, personally.

and i'll second spastik.

"are friends elektrik

Uh...did he cover Tubeway Army?!

The guy's ripped my ears off THREE TIMES RUNNING live, can't say enough great things about his "act".

Amen. A veritable force of nature in a live setting. Nice guy too. "Decks FX..." is spectacular, but he really can't do any wrong in my eyes. I love everything he's ever released.

But I agree, his recorded output does sound sorta lazy now. I used to religiously buy everything he did, just because it was always some brand new mindfuck of a track like nothing else out there. Now, he's made the same record a few times. Still worth tracking, and his good stuff is better than great, but he is no longer a sure thing on record for me.

That said, see him DJ if you are a fan. You won't be sorry.

Anyone want to make me an offer on my vintage Plus 8 coffee mug? It got a matrix number and everything! Check the official catalog!

Richie Hawtin - DE9 : Transitions

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DE9: Transitions combines everything from original Hawtin productions to unreleased tracks straight from the studios of cutting-edge producers like Ricardo Villalobos, Marc Houle, Daniel Bell, Alex Under et al and adds flashes of classic techno moments including Robert Hood, K. Alexi, Sahko, Pan Sonic etc, which inspired him when he was a young clubber. But most of the tracks are fundamentally transformed from their original states. Some fade in and out over a period of minutes, others are reduced to one single sampled note. The on-screen read-out on the DVD version of DE9: Transitions illustrates that its smoothly shape-shifting outline, this is a remarkably complex project. In fact the tracks are so close to becoming entirely new compositions that Hawtin has made the decision to give them his own names.

WHY THE HELL didn't I get it then?? I don't even want the DVD. GRR.

xpost x3

how dare you momus!!

Really? I was a bit sceptical about anonther Hawtin DE9, but now i'll have to check it out anyway. What's on the DVD, something special?

-- blunt (blunt120...), October 30th, 2005.

how much you want for it?

holy shit!

Closer To The Edit was cute, kinda fun, but the novelty wore off quick (compared to mixes like "Immer" & "Scion Arrange & Process..."). This is much better, and on first listen too, DE9:2 took me a while to really get into, and later I felt it wasn't hugely worth the effort, despite it being an 'interesting' concept.

I WANT a 5.1 system now.

Actually when you think about it Ronan, Switch sound like the group someone would make after reading your FT review of that 7 Mix.

... But yeah, anyway, for some reason whenever I've heard any Switch stuff it's just not done much for me. Ewan Pearson loves their Coldcut remix but when I heard it just went past me, sorta.

ah, the good old introvert/extrovert schism...

The earlier M-nus-ish stuff is nice too I guess, but i had a vahid-like moment when I thought, "this would sound so much better with a big fat bassline underneath it", and suddenly had the strong urge to put on See You At The Party instead.

Vahid a while back you were asking something along the lines of "if we honestly admit that both US house and Euro house have this intricate spliced up production, what is the real point of distinction which makes the Euro stuff interesting?"

Listening to that Hawtin Mixmag mix made me ask this question again, but in a positive rather than negative way: the sudden upsurge in quality when everything goes melodic and sparkly at the end suggests to me that perhaps one of the things that people (like myself) respond to in a lot of the Euro stuff is that sense of collision b/w the compressed funk of Classic/Music For Freaks/Perlon and the dreamier/spacier/epic component that one tends to see in prog/trance/melodic detroit techno (whose grooves tend to be more smoothly flowing to better enable that mind/body detachment thing maybe.

Classic/Music For Freaks rarely goes for that same sense of "the epic", not because it's afraid to or because its unambitious, but because its too much in love with the intoxicating claustrophobia of the packed sexualised dancefloor; you're not supposed to forget that you're surrounded by dancers with whom you might do unspeakable things before the sun comes up.

The mix itself is so subtle and smooth - I don't think I've heard anything quite like it. It really comes off as a seamless whole rather than a DJ going from one track to the next.

I have a hard time getting into Closer To The Edit because it seemed like he couldn't stay with a single idea for very long and the transitions from one part to the next are really jarring. Transitions does a better job of turning his ADD into an asset by turning the mix into an ever changing kaleidoscope of sound.

It is true that this is more subdued. It might not work too well on the dancefloor, but I don't know if that was the intention. When the original Decks, EFX and 909 came out, I thought it lacked dancefloor oomph, but then I heard him play those exact same tracks in a club and he absolutely destroyed the place!

Basically what I'm getting at is Richie Hawtin rocks, haircut or not!

thx yes exactly

Recently discovered Hawtin's Concept 1 - 96 stuff -- yea i know it's over 10 years old now, but man, this is incredible. I don't think I've heard techno this minimal, stripped down this much...even more so then the Consumed album. Very good.

Can anyone recommend some techno for me that comes close to how minimal this stuff is?

richie hawtin's balls
http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/mrwlong/?action=view¤t=CIMG1826.flv

umm yea that's some good techno

Hawtin's Concept 1 - 96

still my favorite Hawtin by a factor of thirty

try Moebius & Beerbohm's "Doppleschnitt" from 1982. 20 minute track.

1983 actually -- http://www.discogs.com/release/377591

thanks!

try mika vainio, esp. his releases as Ø and philus. my favourite is this: http://www.discogs.com/release/31523, endless tunnels of sine wave spirals over kick drums. very deep and minimal. loads of Ø stuff has been recently reissued on sahko records, it is all essential.

also the profan/kreisel 99 labels run by wolfgang voigt in the 90s. some of it gets quite acid-y at times but stuff like the m:i:5 and pentax and grungerman is essential.

thanks, yea i've checked out voigt's stuff as studio 1 (and gas of course), and it's excellent, haven't heard the m:1:5 or other stuff though

Terrence Dixon's 90s releases for Utensil Records, if you can find'em

If you like Concept, Thomas Brinkmann's Concept Variations is worth picking up also. As are his Variations of Studio 1. Those records have the most fucked swing to them I've ever heard.

Yeah, if you can track them down on the internets, the other early non-mika -vainio sahko records are awesome. I think the Sil Electronics and Hertsi ones might be the most stripped-down tracks ever.

Speaking of, a lot of 90s minimalism is so much more compelling to me than the mid-2000s stuff that m_nus is putting out now. Actually, I kind of hate the newer m_nus stuff. I think there was a conceptual rigor to the mid-90s version of this music that the more hedonistic form it took in the last couple of years obviously lacks, but also makes it much more aesthetically interesting. Also, that stuff is way better produced and the individual sounds have much more depth and nuance.

Concept 1 - 96 CD was just re-released with Thomas Brinkmann's Variations as the second disc. Remastered by Stefan Betke. I noticed this on M_nus website, and got an email from a local record shop. Cool! This is great stuff.

Also, I have to agree with this, even if I haven't heard all that much of what M_nus is doing now:

Speaking of, a lot of 90s minimalism is so much more compelling to me than the mid-2000s stuff that m_nus is putting out now. Actually, I kind of hate the newer m_nus stuff. I think there was a conceptual rigor to the mid-90s version of this music that the more hedonistic form it took in the last couple of years obviously lacks, but also makes it much more aesthetically interesting. Also, that stuff is way better produced and the individual sounds have much more depth and nuance.

here are some links for it:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=8861

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=19997

Personally I feel kind of silly for not buying it over the last few years when it's been sitting dormant in a record shop here, but I think it's imprerative I get it now.

And as to the quote above: that is so very, very true.

I remember I just couldn't get into the Concept stuff (nor Plastikman's "Consumed") ten years ago, because it was way more minimal and cold than what I was listening back then. But I still have that 96 CD somewhere, should probably give it a listen, since my tastes have changed considerably.

Is the re-release of "Concept 96" actually worth buying for the bonus disc alone? Or does the remaster sound significantly different from the original CD? I like the sound fine as it is, can't see how even Stefan Betke could improve it.

I'm going to Berlin and was thinking of investing in some records... Has anyone heard Hawtin's collabs with Pete Namlook on Fax? I love both Hawtin and Namlook in general, but I'm not sure how well their individual styles might mix.

I have the original Concept CD and it sounds fine to my ears. Unless Stefan can miraculously dig up some hidden clarity.

The Hawtin/Namlook stuff is ok, nothing mind blowing. It's solid but not essential.

Is the re-release of "Concept 96" actually worth buying for the bonus disc alone?

the bonus disc is thomas brinkmann's Concept 1 96 VR album (his re-workings of the original hawtin material).

i can't say if betke's remastering improves the sound, since i've only heard mp3s of the original. i was never able to find an original release copy for an affordable price.

but the re-issue sounds great, whether or not it's an improvement over the original.

Anyone seen one of the new Plastikman shows? The short clips on YouTube look promising:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEpLBT2W2pY

It looks like Richie circa 2006 has been reincarnated as Robyn

http://www.factmag.com/2010/04/28/robyn-announces-first-london-show-for-two-years/

http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/robynnewmain3939939393.jpg

the plastikman video from time warp sounds boring to me. many people who went there seems to agree.

but that vid from coachella makes me think it was an awesome performance though!

Reviving the plastikman name, especially when it's accompanied by big showy spectacle, shouldn't hold any promise that his new stuff is going to be interesting. Whatever productions that have come from Richie in the last few years have sucked anyways, I see no reason why these can't either ;)

Man, just got DE9: Closer to the Edit and quite enjoying it.

Listening to minimal techno before it was "minimal", and listening to Richie before he became a huge fucking joke, one can only look back on the latter half of the 00's and sigh at how these things were made so shallow (and rather than simplistically and unthinkingly charge them as being inherently so, as most tend to do, of course).

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254022_10150224509213960_238996453959_7167704_4442488_n.jpg

where's that?

haha

Sonar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee-vjXl4W9s

Its pretty amazing how little people dance to his music.

mnml dancing.

Missing sonar :(

nice zoom in to the bangers in the gypsy top there lol

also feeling EDB's post up there

say what you like about richie but his radishes are fucking delicious...and you'll be hard pushed to find a zestier lemon.

http://frommymindtoyours.com

I'm going to Berlin and was thinking of investing in some records... Has anyone heard Hawtin's collabs with Pete Namlook on Fax? I love both Hawtin and Namlook in general, but I'm not sure how well their individual styles might mix.

― Tuomas, Monday, August 25, 2008 5:32 PM

I eventually ended up getting all three From Within albums, and they're pretty amazing, especially the first two! In fact I'd even say that they're better than any solo material by either Namlook or Hawtin that I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgd7ZWCgtAo

(There's a funny bit in the liner notes for a FAX compilation where he mentions that some journalists praised the "basslines and drums by Richie Hawtin", but thought the "typical Namlook strings" were boring... When in fact Namlook had produced the beats and Hawtin the strings. Everyone just assumed it was the other way around, because Hawtin was the techno guy and Namlook the ambient guy.)

"He" = Pete Namlook.

the full Concept series has been released digitally!

https://richiehawtin.bandcamp.com/album/richie-hawtin-concept-1-96-12

also: there was music by Richie Hawtin/Plastikman at the Prada spring/summer 2021 women's wear show in September (only the first 13:30 minutes - the rest is an interview with designer Raf Simons)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCQxPSNzU2Q