Inspired by listening to the Super Furry Animals' "Radiator" today. It's their only album that I'd still listen to. It's a near-classic, brimming with pop fizz and invention, and you felt that their masterpiece would definitely follow. Alas, all following efforts have been patchy and only fleetingly inspired.
The Beta Band must also be mentioned. "The Three EP's" was cool, if a tad overrated, but you knew the 'real' albums would deliver on the potential. Alas, their first to records were patchy, and overly polished (respectively).
Perhaps I'm being harsh measuring greatness in terms of making a "great album". Perhaps it is enough to make plenty of great music dotted over several releases. And a SFA best-of album WOULD be great. But something is slightly unsatisfying about their career so far.
Any acts you feel this way about? Tell me more...
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)
alternate answer: i don't kno, killian, the one 'l' in yr name is an ultimate problem dat i can't face up 2, 2 da point wher yr threads r unanswerable. maybe i shd put a winkin smiley face after daT SENTENCE BUT fuck it. how r things anyway, in yr life, kil(l)ian, feel free to b inpersonal. (inpersonal?)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)
hm
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
hmm
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)
This is a toughie, cuz bands that have already broken up I usually tend to see them as "great" or "not great". It's hard to hear the potential in something that I already am aware of how far it would go.
BANDS THAT COULD UP THEIR POTENTIAL:
I think Bright Eyes has a great album in them yet (Desparecidos already has theirs), once he learns how to trim the indulgence from the insight. Unless Conor Oberst starts having too many years that are all the same and runs out of new things to say.
I still say that the Red Hot Chili Peppers are an editor away from a great album. Ten tracks that are rarely allowed to break 3 and a half minutes.
If Justin Timberlake didn't try so hard to be Usher and hooked back up with BT I think he might have something all-the-way-fun. Neptunes can play as long as someone else is there to inspire JT to say something more than "may I put my dick in that?"
Audioslave needs to replace Chris Cornell with Rod Stewart and then play a couple Faces/Rod Stewart-Mercury albums for inspiration. I cannot stress that enough. If I had three wishes this would come right after world peace and financial security for me and mine.
REM and Radiohead need to be denied access to Michael Stipe.
Sonic Youth needs to let Lee sing everything, and nobody is allowed to "talk" in that band again.
Mark Robinson needs to take his gifts and just SELL OUT.
Rob Zombie needs to listen to some old Alice Cooper and think about how he can work some social politics into that disco-metal shit. Imagine if he sang about A Clockwork Orange in a way that couldn't be mistaking for a car song.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)
so, were was me... a-ha, instead of SFA's i was converted into a Gorky's Zygotic Mynci's far-away fan for a while - by a '97 chance encounter with their 'Barafundle'; that little shiny thingy pumped several zeppelin-fuls of elation, mirth and hot hope into me; making me muse, gleefully, "many a 'renowned' and 'classical' songwriter should turn pinkblueblack&yellow with envy hearing this"(after which i went back and checked out 'Bwyd Time' - listened, shrugged, thought "okeh, they've grown in two years a lot")
and then - wot? the sad 'Gorky 5' - workmanlike & mediocre.after which lots of my enthusi''' evaporated. perhaps too soon, dunno... yeh, they might still "have it", i s'pose(('Rings Around' has reached track 6 ...and i've already heard quite a bit of Beach Boys and Beatles ...but where're SFA ...hm, '(A) Touch Sensitive' may be the best track so far...))
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― s woods, Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)
But surely that's the point. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)
haha you didn't have to amend that, anthony, i wish they wouldn't talk, EVER! (NB i like ye olde sonic youth)
― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
And RATW deserves a better reception: yes, it evokes Beach Boys here, Beatles there, but it's full of well-crafted, well-performed songs. Best track is Run Christian Run, which suffers from a title that screams "throwaway novelty track" when in fact it's beautiful and substantial.
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 1 February 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 1 February 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Saturday, 1 February 2003 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)
I think that Sparta's o.k. and so is The Mars Volta, but It's just not the same. I hate it when good bands lose their shit. It's depressing...
― Brenya, Saturday, 1 February 2003 06:17 (twenty-two years ago)
"Hey Joni", "Skip Tracer"= ehhh....ugghhh...gee....ok, maybe they should only let JIM sing.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 February 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― ed horrox (girl_afraid), Saturday, 1 February 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Callum (Callum), Saturday, 1 February 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Eric Dolphy (Coltrane learned more from him than anyone...Dolphy might have been able to push free jazz beyond mere 'energy music,' and thereby prevented the fusion disaster in the 70s)Jimi Hendrix (I don't think he would have pulled a Santana and stagnated, and who knows what kind of crazy pedals would have been invented with his input)The Screamers (Wrong place at the wrong time?)Nick Drake (What would he have produced if he were able to musically exorcise his demons instead of be consumed by them?)John Lennon (Another great song-writer who would have potentially evolved with the times instead of being stuck rehashing his past)
I'm sure there are more that none of us ever got a chance to hear about.
― Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.clashmagazine.com/flowered-up-return/
― mark e, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)
Levitation.
The first 2 eps and "squirrel" single showed a band that could really have gone in any number of fascinating directions, and Dave Francolini was an incredible drummer.
But they'd lost it by the first album, which was as vapid as the vapour in a vapour chamber.
― PhilK, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)
Television
One immortal debut, an "eh" follow-up, then a dull comeback record 14 years later. They should have had a much better career.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)
i'm generally not a pink floyd fan, with the exception of "piper at the gates of dawn", so i'll go with syd barrett-era pink floyd. imagine if he hadn't gone nuts?
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)
BADLY DRAWN BOY
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 30 August 2007 06:20 (eighteen years ago)
Campag Velocet.
― pft, Thursday, 30 August 2007 07:52 (eighteen years ago)
I mean nobody sayd of LBGP, "Imagine how great they would have become if they hadn't broken up!"
I do. I LOVED those three EPs. Perhaps the 3Ds (with Denise Roughan) provide us with a clue.
― mike a, Thursday, 30 August 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)
Bis. Social Dancing suggested a viable route beyond the youth-oriented sloganeering, but the next couple of CDs were all too dull - or perhaps outstripped their abilities at the time, who knows.
I agree with Nick Drake, although I wonder if we'd have actually heard much from him afterwards. Perhaps he would have made a Roky-style comeback after antidepressants became more effective and less narcotic. I don't know. It's hard to imagine a 60-year-old Nick Drake.
― mike a, Thursday, 30 August 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)
Bishop Allen.
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)
House of Love should have been U2 big (and the world would have been a better place for it).
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
Super Furry Animals have fulfilled all of their artistic potential, only people haven't noticed.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 31 August 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)