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― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 1 February 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Saturday, 1 February 2003 05:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's all just a matter of taste. I turn on a JT albumand I like what I hear. YMMV
If you want specifics, I like the vocals, the guitar,the drums, the writing, the production, just abouteverything. They've had a dud song every now and then, of course, and many dud albums (Heavy Horses and later, basically). As for legacy-conducive; hmm.They have a lot of fans, but I don't know if they havemuch of a legacy, per se. I hear very little of them in modern artists.
As for originality, well, they had it in spades, forshort while, anyway.
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― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
I never really saw JT as a prog band (alas having 2 albums w/ whole-side opuses), because they really went more for the feeling than the performance. Their roots are in blues, but this is only obvious on their first two albums; Jethro Tull became a power blues-folk-rock, (not unlike Led Zeppelin on many occasions) mainly because of Martin Barre, which replaced the original guitarist w/ blues background. Barre had a wider approach, and a taste for medieval instruments and melodies, which broadened their musical scope. (Tony Iommi was one of the candidates for the position that Barre got! Imagine the world today if Iommi went Tull instead of Sabbath...)
Golden Period: anything from Benefit to Songs from the Wood (though Warchild and Too Old... are a bit weaker than the rest). Some later stuff is good as well.
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― tom (other one), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tracer -- the S'Span part surely computes to a degree, whereas the Phish-y aspect (imo) doesn't, especially regarding J'Tull's studio recordings.and even JT live... i've no clear idea what was their stage act in former days, i've seen JT in concert just once, in '91, and then it was definitely a 'presenting greatest hits' affair, with no indulgent jammin' in sight ...dunno.
..."the appeal of JT" - certain rhythmic elements and turns of melody, and the overall sound of of their non-rockin' pieces'n'passages definitely related (at least for my fifteen-year-old-self, decades ago) to some stuff i was hearing at the performances of certain early music consorts at that time (Hortus Musicus, eg.)
there seem to be one or two (rarely 3 or 3,5) decent tracks on also later records (and "Nothing@All" was a smart *song title*), but basically it's not quite worth bothering with stuff from early eighties onward
'Stand Up', tho, is a classic JT album of the very early years
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
And "Teacher" from Benefit is good and cranky, as well. Plus you can go-go dance to it. Never really listened to them much after Thick as a Brick, though. I think it was around that time that the word "pretentious" started showing up in record reviews constantly.
Now I have to hear that "Pussywillow" song.
― Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
jim -- i think i might've uttered something very similar (tho inna different language) sometime in '75 when i first heard Th'asa'Br...the next one to come my way, accidentally, was War Child (didn't catch my fancy then nor later, as an album, but "Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day" me liked)
anyhoo, if Th'a Brick's yer thing, jim, you could as well give a spin to A Passion Play (they're kinda 'of a pair', Play is from one year later, also recorded as - more'o'less - one continuous piece, but sounding sorta more sombre)
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
- Flute and other unusual instrumentaion.- Great blues chops.- They're English! Everyone loves them!- Only prog rock band to make a great song (in this case, take your pick of anything off Aqualung)- Pact with the Devil
― Stiv (Stiv), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
I always felt Anderson had a cynical, vaguely punk side to him--tho' maybe I gleaned that after reading that he was a big Ian Dury fan.
― s woods, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 03:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
Oh, their appeal. Riffs, git-solos, flaut-solos, and, uh, wood sprites.
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― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 April 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link
revising Hans Rott's opinion to state that the rest of Benefit is also good, although when Anderson is trying to ahem MAKE A POINT he becomes very quickly intolerable (he pretty much ruins "Son," an otherwise terrific tune with a really puzzling audible tape edit at one point)
it's kind of gratifying to be enjoying this record so much right now - on vinyl, it was the first record I ever bought with my own money (23 cents in the bargain bin at Rhino when it was a shack on 2nd)
― J0hn D., Monday, 27 August 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Weird, I clearly remember posting to this thread last time it was revived...
Anyway, for me it's the post-prog pop trilogy of Songs From The Wood, Heavy Horses, Stormwatch. And Minstrel, though it's kinda the transition between the concept albums and the concise stuff.
― Jon Lewis, Monday, 27 August 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Their initial appeal: I was 12, and he said "snot" on the radio. That, and they were good for playing D&D along to. But like the Who, they were ambitious/pretentious/impressive without being as humorless and precious as Yes or other FM staples. I really liked concept albums at that age.
― Bob Standard, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Honestly, though, who didn't like pretentious concept albums at that age?
Join me as Tommy meets Ziggy Stardust by The Wall and The Lamb Lies Down on Braw-aw-aw-aw-aw-aw-dway!
― JN$OT, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link