Why does "Meddle-era Pink Floyd" always mean "Echoes" and never "One of these Days"?

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jot eff pe, Saturday, 1 February 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It always means that drumblitz in "One of These Days."

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Saturday, 1 February 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Why doesn't it mean "Fearless"? Or "Saint Tropez"?

-Matt, faced with another head-scratcher...

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Because "One of These Days" is nowhere near as repesentative of their sound at that time as "Echoes." "One of These Days" is really the only true kickass rocker they did after their Syd days. But "Echoes" sounds a lot like other Floyd songs of the period ("Atom Heart Mother," "Biding My Time," "Embryo")

Evan (Evan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I was going to suggest the inverse. It seems whenever the `Floyd have chose to dust off a track of the MEDDLE album, it's more that usually "One of These Days" as opposed to the comparitively sprawling "Echoes."

Ever notice that "Clean" off Depeche Mode's VIOLATOR album swipes the bass line from "One of These Days"?

I wouldn't call "One of These Days" the "only kickass" rocker post-Syd. What about "Young Lust"? What about "In the Flesh"? What about "Sheep," let alone the entirety of the ANIMALS album?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

echoes obviously dominates that album. i love fearless though, especially the guitar. did anyone catch low on john peel this last week? they covered this song in their set.

Laney, Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

(Alex in NYC, in "Animals" - in my somnambulishly midnightly & unashamedly subjective view - you're 'onourin' an album with absolutely no fire.)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You're right about Animals (forgot about that one), but anybody that knows me knows that I absolutely AM NOT a fan of "Young Lust" and it's stupid cock-rockness. "Ooooh I need a dirty woman"? Whatever Rog.
Save it for the crappy solo album please.

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 2 February 2003 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

one of these days is an oddity, rocking more stupidly than anything on la/clouds or da moon and maybe just saved by studio special effects -- i hate it because i read the band explaining the title/song (in Mojo) as "it was just ones of those days in the studio", which really disappointed me as i thought it was about something else entirely, and i don't know whether to believe them

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 2 February 2003 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I thought it was about cutting people into little pieces or something. Like some kind of musical Hitchcock tribute (at least the kind that doesn't sound like "Eleanor Rigby").

Me, I think Obscured By Clouds is cooler than Meddle anyways. One of my biggest "what-ifs": imagine if "The Gold It's In The..." became a huge chart hit (as it deserved to be goddammit; it's like the third- or fourth-best song they recorded post-Syd) and dictated their future as a band with a knack for churning out three-minute pop tunes with big crunchy likeable daftness.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 2 February 2003 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the mojo article had the band at least admitting that a large element of the perception that they did things innovatively boiled down to "studio trickery" type gimmicks -- i suppose they had time to spend in the studio trying out these various permutatins that end up providing the loose chain of command style of "one of these days"

and ".. the moon" proved that dressing up songs in effects will get you jetsons/jones type high fi train spotters and interior decorators as well as neighbors, party-goers -- and it was de rigeur for spontaneous smokey liasons i'm told

i'll admit to respecting both pink floyd and van der graaf generator for road testing the song components whilst touring, but i think generator would have enjoyed playing/rocking a lot more, even if both main songwriters had recurring dark concerns -- playing albums note for note sells albums i suppose

pink floyd's umma gumma opening into "astronome domine" evidences the blueprint for me for floyds tactics both live and studio of consistently using _surpise_ (as trancendental or other worldly experience)

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"St. Tropez" is so giddily ridiculous. "Fearless" was remade by Color Filter and Low, so there's some sort of lingering thing going on. And "Seamus" of course became (in an instrumental edit) the theme song of Tom Stoppard's perfectly fine film version of his Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. So the whole album has something going for it, pretty much (wait, what's the second song again?).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

A Pillow of Winds! Yeah, I was just gonna mention how nobody had checked this one. My favorite of their bucolic/pastoral mode.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, apart from stuff like "one of these days", Meddle and Obscured by Clouds are fine collections of songs -- i think that the gimmicks equated to larger audiences though (hence "..days" the obligatory "early" "live" "favourite")

so i like Nate's "what if" -- look at all the music they generated '69-'73, before they found the "freak the audience" tactics started to pay, toured as a circus spectacle act and moved towards the inner band politics and product ideas of Wish you were here or Animals, with respectively four or three whole songs

Ned, do you like the VddG box set ?

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, I'd disagree with Pink Floyd playing their albums
note for note, at least not in the early days
(see Fat Old Sun, the concert version of which
elevated a cute little ditty to a ripping guitar
epic).

And even in the later days, David Gilmour still
improvs a few bits, after getting the "classic" solo
out of the way.

Squirrel_Police, Monday, 3 February 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

seven years pass...

"One of These Days" is really the only true kickass rocker they did after their Syd days.

Wait a second... What about "The Nile Song?"

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:44 (fourteen years ago)

or Biding My Time!

Pottery Owls (MaresNest), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

The Narrow Way Part 3!

schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

The Narrow Way Part 3!

"The Narrow Way Part 3" was a primary influence on Lionel Ritchie's "Hello" -- discuss...

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 25 March 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)

"aliensporebomb 1 year ago
Sounds to me like Pink Floyd borrowed portions of this chord progression for "Echoes". Ron Morgan, super unsung early guitar hero - Check out 4:42 sounds a heck of a lot like Carlos Santana but it's Ron thru and thru! 1968! A year before Santana's first album hit the streets.
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the chord does sounds the same..from 01:00..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPbSLPN2sQ8

nostormo, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)


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