Phantom of the Park or Phantom of the Paradise?

*jaw-drops*

I lean toward Paradise, not just because I can't stand KISS (they did Phantom of the Park, right?), but 'cause it was groovy and creepy.

Personally, i prefer _Paradise_, because Paul Williams is an unsung genius.

-Matt, a sucker for the classics.

"Who are YOU?!!!"

"My CARD...pretty LADY!"

Not only do I own the film, I have the soundtrack LP! I get all excited and crazy when thinking about this movie, it just holds a strange appeal for me. I don't know if Paul Williams is an unsung genius, I haven't explored his career enough for that (give me time), but in Phantom he's perfectly cast as the creepy, smarmy villian. And what a peculiar vocal delivery he has; does he always talk like that? And (introducing) Jessica Harper singing! And (especially) dancing! And Gerritt Graham as effeminate glam rocker Beef! And directed by Brian DePalma! It really is great.

paul williams has always been present in my family life. my ma hates his guts, my sis used to play some of his songs repeatedly, and i think he's super cool.

Shame about the actual songs, though. And the completely unappealing male lead.

Also, the Phantom in "Phantom of the Paradise" is much cooler than the Phantom (Dr. Abner Deveraux....and it pains me that I can recall his nae) in Kiss' cinematic cowpie.

Pretty darn well positive. And given all the references to rock music in the samples, it certainly can't be that much older.

Good, good. The primrose path you will follow runs something like this:

JD (already done) -> Bauhaus -> Siouxsie -> the Cure -> the Sisters of Mercy -> Dead Can Dance -> (various other steps) -> eventually, the Smashing Pumpkins. ;-)

http://images.mp3.com/rollingstone/content/316/images/71608.jpg

Of course, he *could* just be a poseur. ;-)

For my generation it goes like this.

Smashing Pumpkins -> the Cure -> Joy Division -> Bauhaus -> "GAH, I DO BELIEVE I'VE HAD ENUFF!!! What's on MTV? AHHH, ZWAN! I'm back where I started!"

Hee, you know I've probably heard more old Siouxsie stuff than most my age. They only know about "Kiss Them For Me." I've heard "Peek-A-Boo!" Hee hee hee.

I think of it this way -- the MTV stars had their roots too. (Actually, I forgot Gary Numan in that list.)

Just like all the fratboys here I just saw buying the Zwan album.

You know, fratboys buy Limp Bizkit albums as well. ;-)

as for phantom, i was always intrigued by the prediction that an audience would desire a more shocking show until the point they were watching death as entertainment.

It shall be done. Oh, and BTW, the lyrics to the Pumpkins' "Here is No Why" -- clearly he wasn't a gothboy at all! ;-)

"the useless drag of another day
the endless drags of a death rock boy
mascara sure and lipstick lost
glitter burned by restless thoughts
of being forgotten
and in your sad machines
you'll forever stay
desperate and displeased-with whoever you are
and you're a star
somewhere-he pulls his hair down-over a frowning smile
a hidden diamond you cannot find
a secret star that cannot shine over to you
may the king of gloom, be forever doomed
and in your sad machines
you'll forever stay
burning up in speed
lost inside the dreams, of teen machines
the useless drags, the empty days
the lonely towers of long mistakes
to forgotten faces and faded loves
sitting still was never enough
and if you're giving in, then you're giving up
cause in your sad machines
you'll forever stay
burning up in speed
lost inside the dreams, of teen machines"

-Matt, who liked 'em better when they were shameless MBV imitators.

-Matt, wondering if there'll ever be a _Paradise_ and _Rocky Horror_ 2-disc gift set...

"Filters... Dolbys..."

There.

Listening to Phantom Of Paradise OST this evening so I thought I'd see what you Ilxors had to say about it (happy to see positive comments, cuz it's great) and saw this:

The Party of the First Part" by Bauhaus samples "Phantom of the Paradise"? Are you sure about that?

Pretty darn well positive. And given all the references to rock music in the samples, it certainly can't be that much older.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, February 5, 2003 10:36 AM (7 years ago

It's actually from a Nelvana cartoon called "The Devil & Daniel Mouse".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXZ827XTdMU

2:32 for the card/pretty lady part.

That's brilliant! :-D