Billy Bragg

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I have always thought I didn't like Billy Bragg. I downloaded a couple of tracks in an idle moment, though, and something about his hangdog voice really appeals. So is he a classic or a dud, and on on? Is he perhaps a real ale version of Elvis Costello?

Jenny, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"and on on" should be "and so on". Oh dear.

Jenny, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used to love 'The Saturday Boy' and 'A Lover Sings' when I was at school, and they seemed relevent to my life. Haven't really bothered with him since.

To me he's a bit anachronistic of the whole 80's Red Wedge / 'bash the guvverment' goings on. I used to share his political views but I preferred his 'love' songs.

Now he seems to be happy dressing up as a Roman Centurion and annoying politicians. And singing Woody Gutherie songs of course.

DavidM, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So fucking classic - still _the_ best live performer I've ever seen, and thatincludes PAtti Smith, Lou Reed, Nirvan, Jane's Add et al. If only one line could sum up my life, it would be "In the end it took me a dictionary to find out the meaning of unqrequited/while she was giving herself for free at a party to which I was never invited."

Geoff, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just about everything of his up through WORKER'S PLAYTIME was quite good, and then he sort've lost the plot (to my ears). Lately, he's been hanging out with those blasted creeps in Wilco and making yawnsome records in tribute to Woody Guthrie. Once upon a time, however, Bragg was a bit more interesting. And hilarious live.

alex in nyc, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I saw Billy he played for like three hours and It was all king. I almost was crying during Tank Pary Salute. I never cry at concerts. That man is golden.

-- Mike Hanley, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love his lyrics whether they're political or romantic or whatever. He plays the part of brainy loser-nerd very well. "Back to Basics" and "Talking with the Taxman" are tops. I really like the two Mermaid Ave records too. Live, he's hilarious and prone to long-winded rants about everything from politics to television to guitars. So fully classic. Best line: "I saw two shooting stars last night so I wished on them, but they were only satellites. Is it wrong to wish on space hardware?..."

Tim Baier, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't listen to him that often, but I love New England and St. Swithins Day too much for me to consider him anything other than classic.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He holds the distinction of being the only live performer I've ever been so irritated by - so repulsed by hearing his voice close up - that I have actually left early.

To be fair, this was when he was headlining the TUC rally in Tolpuddle last summer, an event which I love but where I know I won't much like the music, but really the man sounded like a grotesque ranting parody of himself. I agree that he was more interesting in the 80s, and I think back then, at least, he was a good songwriter, but I find something very irritating about his exaggeration of his accent in his singing voice, which strikes me as the kind of salt-of- the-earth ethnic authenticity that was the very worst thing about the old left.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robin! The Wurzels were just on TOTP2! Is that more your kind of thing?

[Ducks into handy thermonuclear shelter: By, but he's been and gone and done it now...]

mark s, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know exactly what corner you're trying to get me into, Mark. All I can say is that I don't like people playing up *any* accent to such an obvious crowd-pleasing extreme, and by those criteria I suppose I'd put Bragg closer to the Wurzels than many would.

No offence taken whatsoever. I'm glad I didn't get to hear Wright's snigger.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

did anyone here see him when he would wear his amplifier on his back? i like rodney allen better.

i have walked out on yo la tengo after ira's 18th lame guitar solo. is there a more overpraised band? not likely.

keith, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the first lines of sexuality has this great polymorpheous energy and then sitiches to this leftist political stream of concisous , i put it on every mixed tape i give out

i am a rampant leftist so his poltical songs seem realvant
and finally the two mermaid avenue albums are heartbreaking in their clarity and beauty

Classic

anthony, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Billy Bragg's voice is one of the worst things in the history of popular music. His face isn't much better.

Dud.

Johnathan, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Coincidence... Saw Billy Bragg before Yo La Tengo a year or two ago. "A13","New England","St Swithin's Day" etc all great songs, especially as cover versions. He has some good album covers too I think, like the Penguin book style one(s?). He sounds v similar to the Jam album 'Extras', which is mostly vocal/solo guitar demos, which I also like. I want to hate him though...

Yo La Tengo new album is nice, but they have done nothing for me live.

m jemmeson, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
I'm disappointed that the Bragg greatest hits completely ignores the Internationale record (going so far as to not picture it in the liner notes with his other albums).

"I Dreamed I Saw Phil Ochs Last Night" and "Marching Song of the Covert Batallions" are as good as almost anything he's done.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 29 December 2003 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

From A Vauxhall Velox and Walk Away Renee are just fookin' brilliant. One of my deepest loves.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Monday, 29 December 2003 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'Back to Basics' is usually cheap everywhere, and is good. Get it even if you're not a huge fan.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Likewise Victim Of Geography (which compiles Talking With The Taxman About Poetry and Workers Playtime) and Don't Try This At Home - from what I've heard since I think he peaked there 'though.

Why's he doing so few gigs to promote Must I Paint You A Picture? I haven't seen him live for years (at least 10!) and have a strange hankering to do so again; but The Barbican doesn't seem the right place to do so at all - I want to see just him & his guitar in a small club or something.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Putting Phil Ochs to the tune of Joe Hill and complaining about how he was discarded "when fashions changed" struck me as vintage cringe-worthy Bragg. If there's a musically worthy and politically poignant post-Communist "Internationale" to be made, it ain't on that CD.

I think the comp misses "Richard," "This Guitar Says Sorry," "Tender Comrade," "The Marriage," and most egregiously "She Came Along to Me"; I'd also sub the trad. "Which Side Are You On" for "There is Power in a Union" and (ugh, I know it's tongue in cheek and it's still unbearbable) "Help Save the Youth of America." But this is still a great collection of songs...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

He called my house to sort out an interview, and my sister picked up the phone. After saying he was Billy Bragg, she said "Fuck off! Who is it really?"

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Who was it actually?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Rob Sheffield ranks Billy Bragg NUMBER ONE OF ALL TIME!!!!!!:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0353/sheffield.php

chuck, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
he has his moments, definitely

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 4 October 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago)

watching him decide to crowd surf then...have doubts...is a great live memory.

don't tell me its an act.

gaz (gaz), Monday, 4 October 2004 07:09 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
I saw him twice today, once at a book signing and at a gig. Back To Basics is one of my top 5 CD's ever, I'd like to be buried with it in fact, it never loses its appeal for me. I enjoyed his presence, songs and ideas today.

Punk Juice (Bimble...), Sunday, 1 October 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

While I appreciate the existence of the version of 'Shirley' on which Johnny Marr plays everything, I wish there were *instrumental* releases of all the tracks Bragg did with Marr. I would like to be able to focus more easily on the acoustics and guitar sounds in 'Greetings to the New Brunette' et al. I guess for Bragg to do this would require a degree of humility and recognition that he wasn't the best thing on the tracks, but he has more of that than most pop stars.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 December 2008 08:55 (sixteen years ago)

How about an instrumental 'Sexuality'?

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 December 2008 13:17 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwU4zCEJtY

god

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 27 March 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ i like how you can tell the guy with glasses about 55 seconds in is singing "anuvver girl"

Putting Phil Ochs to the tune of Joe Hill and complaining about how he was discarded "when fashions changed" struck me as vintage cringe-worthy Bragg.

Bragg has his share of cringe moments -- maybe more than most, because of the relationships/politics minefield he's digging trenches in, and because of the way he goes about it (strident about sentimentality, sentimental about stridency) but to me, this isn't one of the cringes. I think it's a decent tribute, and Ochs would probably have agreed that his topical songwriting style rose and fell in popularity like any other fashion wave.

dad a, Saturday, 27 March 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

A few years ago I interviewed him. I'd emailed and reminisced about how as a teenager I used to go to see him at every gig, every Greater London Council event, every rally. He phoned to suggest a day for me to go down to his house. "Yeah, Tuesday would probably work. Having a bit of an 80s get-together," he said, flatly. "Weller and Morrissey are coming for lunch, and they'll probably stick around for the interview." Wow, I said, that sounds amazing. Just amazing. He paused, then pissed himslef laughing.

ithappens, Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

braggin'

velko, Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

Had no idea I wrote what you were quoting until I scrolled up: Bragg's one of the good guys, I have trouble saying anything wrong about him now, though I haven't bought anything for years.

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 28 March 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

Like his music, but he's never understood that even people who share his political/ideological views hate to be preached to. Just shut the fuck up and sing.

Jazzbo, Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

I really like Bragg, but that said, a little goes a long way - Taxman and Don't Try are the two best for me --

jimmy_chop, Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

"A New England" is a really great song. I love Talking with the Taxman about Poetry a lot too: "The Warmest Room" is wonderful.

lube and (Euler), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

i kind of forgot who billy bragg is, but this tweet made me lol

billybragg. Kids -- there is no Santa. Those gifts were from your parents. Happy New Year from Wikileaks

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 26 December 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

You know, talk about a guy people take for granted. I've seen him live a few times, and almost every show I get this "here we go again" feeling at the start. Then by the end I'm ready to climb mountains and claim the peaks in the name of the people. I saw him do a songwriting workshop a couple of weeks ago, and he remains an amazing human being and great writer/raconteur. He told hilarious stories of his mom, explained how he went about writing a song about the sinking of the Titanic (from the perspective of the iceberg, for which the sinking was the end of its own centuries long journey), and talked about the difference between tweets and facebook, as much as he recognizes that they have in some ways supplanted marches and whatnot as the prime mean of protest, and songs, which possess the ability to instantly transform your mood. When pressed for an example he cited a song he had written about the death of his father (which his recently deceased mom requested he play at her own funeral). He played it for the small crowd, and by the end many of them were weeping. That's something else. (He made sure to note that his mom also requested recordings of English dancing tunes be played at her funeral, and her dancing shoes laid on her casket, lest anyone think she was somehow all gloom and doom).

Anyway, a remarkable guy who I think doesn't get enough love, either here or in general. Just wanted to say.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago)

Right there with you - I was at the Sat. Old Town School show a few weeks back and was similarly dazzled. Good audio souvenier - set one Woody, set two Billy.

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago)

Just missed his DC show and you're making me wish I had seen it. Josh's take mirrors mine re when I saw him in the past

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 July 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago)

playing the next 2 nights around NY, to mark Guthrie centennial.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago)

eight months pass...

"Levi Stubbs' Tears" is one of my favorite songs ever, otherwise he's never interested me. But I heard a good new song on the way home today called "No One Knows Nothing Anymore." I should have recognized the voice but didn't, and was quite surprised to find out it was him.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

The last album was completely forgettable for me. I've been a fan for 20 years but listening to half the new one pretty much closed the chapter for me. Not that any of it is bad but, meh...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:48 (twelve years ago)

seven years pass...

Lib Dem spokesman Bragg back with another banger

ANTIFA pic.twitter.com/dUB99SJn8l

— Billy Bragg (@billybragg) May 31, 2020

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 June 2020 10:41 (five years ago)

omg. no i won't enquire if it is meant to be some kind of joke!

calzino, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:53 (five years ago)

he doesn't want to change the world, he's just looking for another channel 5 ww2 doc!

calzino, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:58 (five years ago)


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