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This ended up being so vast it's in two parts - 20-11 and 10-1. Apologies for the delay - read them in a spirit of nostalgia for those long ago times of 2002.

The site has apparently had connection problems thanks to BT so sorry if you don't get anything.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

haha you dick.

(also, tom i finally got the email you sent me ages ago re. the azzerrad re-write...i had done it that weekend and thought i had sent it to you. if you never got it, let me know, and i'll remail it.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll have a look now Jess!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah can you resend - chances are it got cleared out by accident, sorry.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, no prob.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

enjoyable stuff....the Conway reasoning is interesting - how many other bootlegs are there where you could confidently declare your hatred for (part) of the source material in its original context but when re-spliced with something so loveable as 'Block Party' you find it irresistable? hmmm, maybe a LOT, i'm not sure.

irony is i thought the Hives track was okay (but far too over-played for sure) and didnt like the Lopez track but that seems to have been reversed now (not now as in after reading Tom's verdicts....well, maybe ;)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I still can't get to FT! :( :( :(

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

that was the greatest list i've ever read.

Evan (Evan), Thursday, 6 February 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the only place I've heard "Lisa's Got Hives" was on The Best of Boom Selector Vol. 2 where it sounds like complete shit--all filtered and treble-heavy, like listening to it in a seashell. I've never understood its appeal, and I'm guessing that's why. Must find real copy....

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 6 February 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It is quite messy soundwise but not particularly treble-heavy. I thought it was a bit shit the first couple times I heard it, and then it grew. And grew and grew and grew and...

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 February 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

do you think her untimely passing had ANYTHING to do with increasing the allure of the track also? i think that would be perfectly reasonable to be honest

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 6 February 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

it had everything to do with why i heard it in the first place - i was DJing that weekend and wanted to play some kind of tribute so I dl'ed "Waterfalls" and that. I think it's the best tribute to her too - I thought about reffing her death in the piece but decided to leave it implicit.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 February 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

boys of summer and the logical song - YES!! in some ways my two favourites from last year, esp. the former although i prefer the extended original version for the starburst synths.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 6 February 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The original mix was in there anyway actually, I just wrote about the remix cause I felt like it.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

(starts crying) What? No "Fight Test"?

*sob*

MisterSnrub (Evan), Thursday, 6 February 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Now of course I want to do a list of all the great songs I heard after I'd finalised the list. Not that one, obv.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 February 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

We don't agree on quite a bit, though we do on quite a bit too, and of course I'm less informed than you so I've not heard some of these, including your #1, but I have to say again what a joy it is reading your explanations of why you love these songs, whatever my relationship is to them.

One trivial disagreement: that the Logical Song is a Supertramp cover matters to me, in that I can admire them even more for making something so wonderful out of something I so disliked first time round - a bit like what you say about the Hives, really.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Except that the Hives are great.

A great article, Tom, though the linkage between pages is a bit screwy, and the link from page 0 to page 1 actually goes to page 0.

Obviously if you had come through on your threat of ranking Jenny From The Block above Work It, flying monkeys would already be attacking.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt-N-Pepa's Here!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt and!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt-N-Pepa's Here!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt & Pepa’s not here right now, but if you’d like to leave a message for them, please wait for the tone. Recording. BLOOP!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I see sense in Tom E's final remarks about 'fads'. Much of what I love might be a fad, in a sufficiently long perspective.

However, discriminating fads by the way that 'the public vote with their wallets' is a rather disappointing way - in its too-easy cliché, as much as anything - to ballast this insight. (Luckily this is not the last stage of Tom E's argument.)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Where can I find 'Lisa's Got Hives'? I'd never heard of it before, and almost half the results on Google are ILM-related discussions.

Alexis, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the important distinction is that its the 'bootlegs as fad' that is the fad and not bootlegs themselves...does that make sense? well it does to me

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)


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