Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

Hey now, there's no need for slander.

and that f*cking "hike up your skirt a little more, and show your world to me" is so misogynistic, hateful, smug aaahaaajhahdsdsa;dfdsal!!!!

he needs to die, and I say this kind of thing rarely.

but without black people, he wouldn't be funky!

I don't know about this whole fetishization of black musicians thing, though.

Just thinking of why I hate DMB is almost as tedious as his music. So I have no answer because I can't be bothered to think of one.

Again, I hate his voice, he sounds like a muppet.

"Your choice, Ms. Spears -- the Neptunes or Dave Matthews?"

"Hmmm..."

Sure, plenty. The production is empty and lifeless with no surprises or innovative ideas, his vocal style is grating and cloying, I hate that "funky acoustic guitar strumming" thing he does, and on and on.

"He does all sorts of music."

This is not a virtue in and of itself.

"Acoustic stuff"

So?

"does good improvisational stuff"

No. Only if you consider hippie-jam-band technique to be "improvisational". (I do not).

"is great live"

Never seen him.

" has respect of fellow musicians like sting,peter gabriel, allanis,sheryl crow,Meredith Brooks,Counting Crows,Santana."

I don't respect a single one of those people - the endorsements are empty.

"All the mebers are great musicians."

Technically proficient /= great.

"And the actual songs are good."

Nope.

"He wouldnt have such a rabid cult fanbase if he wasnt any good."

That's what people said about Hitler.

"The likes of Britney would love to work with him. "

And this is of importance why?

I KNEW the fraternity system is a cult!

like dead.

John Darnielle and Momus -- please write songs like Dave Matthews.

To play devil's advocate (heh) for a second - how could they have "controlled" sales of their first alb?

... Get Dave Matthews to sing on it.

and I suppose the dancing people suit the music. The music already clashes with the lyrics. On the album, the songwriter and subject are trapped in a terrible dmb machine. In the show, the dancing audience are ghouls that beg the grotesque machine into motion. "We want to dance to the circus music about the lady who wants to die, dave!"

thought Grey Street was about their bus driver having a repeat folly with the waste tank

the woman is depressed because her kayak was loaded up with excrement like a shit pide.

Hike up your fecal coliform levels a little more

Lol - "Don't Drink the Water" indeed.

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— Dennis M. Hogan (@dennismhogan) July 25, 2024

oh you’re surprised that frat music guy has better politics than, say, Radiohead? you thought 10/8 time signatures and a more experimental sound would mean more radical politics? touch grass my guy. crash into me bro. https://t.co/Wy3ZPJ4x6I

— BO (@bo_austin_) July 25, 2024

maybe it’s just me getting older but no why would I have any preconceived notions about a musician’s politics

also dmb didn’t code frat to me as much as “sophisticated”, “elevated”, wine drinking idk

...also have not been popular with college-age people since 1997

DMB is a Gen X nostalgia thing

hike up your tweet a little more

also dmb didn’t code frat to me as much as “sophisticated”, “elevated”, wine drinking idk

did you attend an american college in the 1990s?

it was def a frat band when I went to college lol

kinda ruined them for me tbh

maybe it’s just me getting older but no why would I have any preconceived notions about a musician’s politics

otm, this dumb 'u coulda seen the code in Radiohead's music that they would have a TERF in da band one day' posturing is really dumb like.

Dave Matthews coulda easily wound up being a fuckin Ted Nugent type but he grew up in South Africa during apartheid, which, despite being on the privileged side of him, probably informed his politics significantly.

Wasn’t in college at the time, I was a young adolescent when he started popping off

dmb came across more vh1 than mtv if you feel me

are you just looking for the phrase "adult contemporary"?

playing frats around Virginia and the South was basically DMB's springboard to stardom ... like they were touring frats years before they were popular in *all* frats.

pig poop balls

— tendency reveal at 1k (@etahetwha) July 26, 2024

Athens, GA had its own DMB cover band that would sell out the Georgia Theater every weekend for $25 bucks a seat

i suppose at a certain point the DMB frat guys of the 90s grew up & mellowed into the wine-drinking attorneys and finance guys of the 2000s

yeah that makes sense. the frat thing is interesting, Dave just seemed really old and plain and not fratty to me. like Huey Lewis seemed old at the time.

Can confirm, the two people in my extended orbit that I know go see DMB every summer are both finance guys.

it took me a few seconds to parse that tweet bc I associate fussy 10/8 time signatures with DMB as much or more than I do with Radiohead

yeah I guess they're thinking of like Paranoid Android and its weirdness but even THAT song is in 4/4

the late-high school and college-era DMB fans I encountered in the late 90s/early 00s were stereotypically the pukka shell necklace-wearing fraternity-type guys and the hippieish-adjacent women. not jam band enough to be restricted to jam band fans, not too soft rock to alienate others

by the late 00s Jack Johnson seemed to be feeding off the same people

Granola in all its forms

at least people are finally talking about DMB regarding topics other than poop-dumping or how gross the lyrics to Crash Into Me are, even if they are written from the character of a peeping tom

enjoy while this lasts, because the 20th anniversary of the poop dump is on August 8th.

at least people are finally talking about DMB regarding topics other than poop-dumping or how gross the lyrics to Crash Into Me are, even if they are written from the character of a peeping tom

― rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal)

yeah but Lady Bird loved it.

we are on maybe the 3rd wave of dmb reassessment. we had the Ryley Walker album, Lady Bird, yasi salek on every podcast, etc.

I need this thread to remain a safe space for naming why they are bad & hated

Venn diagram of late 90s college music with DMB, Phish and Ween

I don't think those overlap nearly as much as you think. All of my Ween loving friends in college HATED DMB with a fiery passion.

it was kinda really ridiculous during orientation at FSU, I dont' remember if I told someone I was into DMB, or if I had a DMB shirt, but like, nobody would shut up about em.

in line we were discussing DMB and this guy yells across the room HEY SO AND SO, THIS GUY HERE LIKES DMB and this other girl started cheering loudly and that just kept happening throughout the day, I was like is this Jim Jones university, why the cult-like excitement

and the funny thing is I'd still ride for the first three albums lol....but got tired of their steez real fast after Space Between

I probably mentioned it upthread, but I saw DMB like 7 or 8 times between 1995 and 2000. I was never a big fan, nor did I really hate them, mostly just went out of inertia because I had a lot of friends way into them and they played around us A LOT.

I don't think those overlap nearly as much as you think. All of my Ween loving friends in college HATED DMB with a fiery passion.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0),

Yeah the overlap wasn’t necessarily listening habits but random keg parties

DMB fandom overlaps with Dispatch, OAR, Rusted Root, and Blues Traveler in my experience

i would say Radiohead has more songs in 5/4 (Everything In Its Right Place, Morning Bell, 15 Step, plus a couple Smile tracks) but DMB overall has weirder time signature stuff where there'll be changing the meter from one bar to the next and then dropping out or stretching a beat.

and Phish are 10x more prog and weird than either

Technically I would say “Everything In Its Right Place” is in 6+4/4 (ie alternating 6/4 and 4/4 bars) but otherwise point taken