― RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:22 (twenty-three years ago)
"Jet"
"Junior's Farm"
"Listen to What the Man Said"
otherwise, it's shit.
― chicxulub (chicxulub), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I like 'jet' and the start of 'C moon' and I like 'maybe I'm amazed' and 'no more lonely nights' and 'silly love songs'!!!
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)
It's an odd collection because it is missing some good bits ("Maybe I'm Amazed" "Helen Wheels" "Take it Away"). I'll probably just end up getting his lps eventually, like I usually do with artist I admire (sigh).
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)
-- Alex in NYC
There's no difference!! Paul was the, what do you say, "auteur"...
― chicxulub (chicxulub), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)
Paul McCartney is one of those artists that I bet there's a potential CD-R or two's worth of stuff I would absolutely adore - really he needs to be a lot more obscure than he is, so some loving curator could trawl through his albums and B-Sides and make some selections. As it is his commercial/historical clout means the available compilations take the path of least resistance a bit too much.
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)
Beatles beat the rest hands-down - that much we know. Beyond that, RJG is probably right. But the best post-Beatles Macca I know is VENUS & MARS - a bit of a 70s masterpiece. TUG OF WAR also has great stuff; his work with Costello has its moments; and so does the FLAMING PIE LP (1997).
― the pinefox, Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)
I did the CDR thing with McCartneys back catalogue a year or two ago and managed to get 4 really good chronological comps. I would guess that a lot of people would like much of this stuff if they sat down and listened to it. McCartney solo though is almost dismissed and I don't think that the Wingspan comp kicked off the resurection of the post Beatles stuff that I or probably he expected.
― mms (mms), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)
What I really can't get over is the fact that Paul himself doesn't realise how rubbish he is nowadays. Wake up!
He really seems to think his solo work is comparable to the Beatles. It's not. Maybe it was always going to be a dissapointment by the Beatles standards, but by _any_ standards it's awful. And still he doesn't get it.
Maybe if we all stood outside his house with placards saying "Paul, your music is now shit!" he'd get it. But I doubt it. He'd probably think "Hey those guys have spelled 'hit' wrong".
Dud.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― harveyw (harveyw), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:54 (twenty-three years ago)
Favourite videos: Goodnight Tonight, Pipes of Peace.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)
Also C: "Jet," "Too Many People," "Let Me Roll It," "Spin It On" (Wings go thrash!)
― mike a (mike a), Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)
good old dad.
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― the pinefox, Friday, 14 February 2003 13:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)
I don't think I've even seen a copy of WINGSPAN in a record store.
I reminded my dad about the 'all the best'-for-christmas thing on friday night when we were in a car. he didn't really remember. he said "and why did she [my mum] buy you that instead?" and I told him again and he understood. then he asked "and why did you want 'faith'??" and the answer was...I was six...I had seen it advertised on television.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 February 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave k, Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)
Yes, COMING UP is great.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316860328/qid=1045408789/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_3_1/026-5101041-0610836
It's an intimate scrapbook.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)
Capitals are the new italics.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)
If that's not a special offer I'll EAT MY HAT. Note controversial opinion expressed herein: the best solo Paul McCartney work did not appear until FLOWERS IN THE DIRT. Before anyone rushes to order it, please note that it appears to be two-dimensional.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)
I used to listen to my mum's copy of "All The Best" all the time. On vinyl, too.
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:23 (twenty-three years ago)
amazing.
Love Coming Up and C Moon too.
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 09:52 (twenty-three years ago)
And then I wake up.
I had "All the best" on CD for many years, never listened to it, but I'll agree that "Venus and Mars" is a neglected classic, as is the first McCartney LP, very primitive but rather homely.
― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 February 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I had dreams about WINGSPAN last night. or it featured in my last night's dreams. I think it was really big and cost one hundred and twenty-five pounds or twenty-five pounds and was sealed in plastic and didn't tell me the tracklisting.
record shopping w/ allyC, yesterday, we saw many mccartney/wings albums. WINGS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND looked OK but was on cassette and three pounds fifty.
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― mike a (mike a), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― matt riedl (veal), Monday, 17 February 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)
this is better than I expected
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 May 2026 16:36 (two weeks ago)
I can't stand that Andrew Watt glaze though.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2026 16:37 (two weeks ago)
Ugh it’s elder abuse at this point!
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Friday, 8 May 2026 16:42 (two weeks ago)
kids used to kick a ball in the alley
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Friday, 8 May 2026 17:13 (two weeks ago)
oh no they made two members of the beatles (notoriously hate singing) sing a song together :(
― the manda-whore-ian and hoe-gu (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 May 2026 17:30 (two weeks ago)
Watt does terribly on the Stones songs (which aren't very good to begin with) and at first here I was thinking 'oh god Ringo's final drumming will be marred with this fucking drum sound' but I got over it pretty quickly; I don't think he's too intrusive here.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 8 May 2026 17:41 (two weeks ago)
production is unlistenable, christ
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 11:29 (one week ago)
Is that a new Oasis song?
― Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 11:54 (one week ago)
Beginning to suspect that Andrew Watt is actually a semi-convincing avatar for AI production software - the song he did with Morrissey was exactly like what Suno or whatever would chuck out if you asked it to produce a Smiths song, with AI compression, autontune and general production values.
― Maggy Scraggle, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 12:54 (one week ago)
It foes soubd like Oasis
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 19:38 (one week ago)
Jagger raves about Watt because he knows "thousands" of songs and can jam with them, so I'm fairly certain Watt's AI.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 19:40 (one week ago)
Beginning to suspect that Andrew Watt is actually a semi-convincing avatar for AI production software - the song he did with Morrissey was exactly like what Suno or whatever would chuck out if you asked it to produce a Smiths song, with AI compression, autontune and general production values.― Maggy Scraggle, Tuesday, May 12, 2026 7:54 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Maggy Scraggle, Tuesday, May 12, 2026 7:54 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
The entire Iggy Pop record he did sounds like AI-Iggy
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 19:42 (one week ago)
Xps grrr sorry for typos. For some reason they're worse when I post to ilx
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 19:48 (one week ago)
Watt can fix the typos.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 19:50 (one week ago)
I don't hate Watt as much as everyone else, but he does have a heavy stamp and everything he has worked on that I've heard sounds over produced in the kind of way Mutt Lang's stuff is over produced. There's a kind of swirly sheen over everything on this song that I think is obviously working to address and smoothe over shakiness in the vocals. I'm not sure it would sound any better without those corrective measures though.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 20:02 (one week ago)
watt would be tolerable (if bland) if he didn't reliably do what he does to the vocals, that sounds so bad
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 20:49 (one week ago)
Seriously. The Macca/Ringo duet is so pitch corrected it sounds like it was sung by the animatronic presidents at Disneyland.
― Davey D, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 20:52 (one week ago)
it's not just the pitch correction, the vocals always end up kinda buried in the mix to try to disguise the flaws i guess? it just results in them sounding garbled, especially because everything else is so polished and clean
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:11 (one week ago)
i thought i was listening to the wrong tune, i can’t even really hear ringo?
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:13 (one week ago)
That's because Bernard Purdie sang over him.
― The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:16 (one week ago)
🥁
ringo and paul sound very alike in this, which I attribute to whatever processing he's throwing on their voices
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:25 (one week ago)
I can't hear Ringo either
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:25 (one week ago)
(though, also, Paul's voice has gotten worse so it's maybe also the case that Paul kind of now sounds like Ringo)
Ringo sings the second line: "and you can be forgiven if you thought that it was rough"
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:26 (one week ago)
Or Paul.
― Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:27 (one week ago)
somewhere George is cackling, short of breath.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:38 (one week ago)
what production style would we prefer in this era from Paul? woolly home recordings on a tascam? raw/confessional Rick Rubin thing? stately Elvis Costello collab?
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:40 (one week ago)
Yes, yes, and yes!
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:44 (one week ago)
Paul is a pretty good producer in his own right. He produced himself during his gravy period.
if watt just produced the vocals in a remotely normal way instead of putting this garbling sheen on everything it'd be fine. i certainly don't believe that mccartney's voice has deteriorated so much that this was the only way to get a usable vocal take, especially not when watt does this same thing on that morrissey track
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:45 (one week ago)
lol this really does sound like oasis
if mccartney's going to do some vague throwback sound he could do a lot better. bring back paul mccartney, disco bassist
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 22:57 (one week ago)
^this!
― The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 01:01 (one week ago)
Took me a few listens, but I like this one well enough. Sounds like a Rutles song! And a good one! I think the range is mostly D3 to D4. Paul does hit one F# above that near the end. I kind of imagine he can hit the notes in that octave fairly well. If I'm missing sonic cues suggesting pitch correction, I'd be interested to know what those are.
― timellison, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 03:15 (one week ago)
Kind of think this one could work well in the context of the album, too (with its thematic element), so hopeful on that.
― timellison, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 03:16 (one week ago)
Sounds like a Rutles song!
ha, otm.
not sure what you guys who can't hear ringo aren't hearing -- his voice is super clear to me, even if age and vocal processing has brought him and paul a little closer together in timbre than they used to be.
harmonies sometimes veer close to jeff lynne/elo territory (e.g. on the line "we didn't worry where the road was going to lead us to").
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 03:58 (one week ago)
Dirk and Barry!
― timellison, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 04:10 (one week ago)
Shocked and stunned
― The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 04:51 (one week ago)
Listening now. Yeah, it does sound like something off of Archaeology.
― The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 06:37 (one week ago)
even comparing the Watt to Mutt Lange is so out of line, super insulting to Lange.Watt's productions sound like AI.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:33 (one week ago)
yeah I don't at all hear Mutt in this sheen.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:35 (one week ago)
brian johnson fed through the watt vocal garbler is a terrifying idea
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:53 (one week ago)
this is well off-topic but i just learned that the watt-produced morrissey track is from the unreleased album he recorded with basically the red hot chili peppers which makes it so much funnier
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 12:11 (one week ago)
I will say Home to Us is very catchy and memorable, usually I get through his new stuff and couldn't remember a note when I'm done.does Ringo play drums on it?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 12:34 (one week ago)
I believe so, yeah.
The vocal processing is odd but the song is lovely!
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:12 (one week ago)
The vocals on Ringo's drums were processed too.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:15 (one week ago)
Should really have got Pete Best in to play the drums.
― Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:53 (one week ago)
Swirls like a 64kbps mp3 file but the song Is charming doggerel. I think Watt has a sound which simulates pop sheen when filtered by octogenarian ears.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 19:33 (one week ago)
Just today I got a substack alert about a Pete Best story.
― The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 20:26 (one week ago)
My feeling about the production is that it has charm but also feels a little generic. I don't hear it as sheen. There are at least three rhythm guitars, probably more. I kind of like the treatment of the backing vocals, although if you're going to have Chrissie Hynde, it would be nice to be able to pick her voice out.
― timellison, Friday, 15 May 2026 01:51 (one week ago)