I started thinking about this after reading through the excellent "Power Dynamics" thread, and wondering how such an example would fit in. What is handed on as the power dynamic shifts/changes? What does the band *mean* anymore? In the case of the Electric Prunes it seems that the band name came to be sort of 'owned' by an external influence - producer David Hassinger, and were also used as a 'brand' by David Axelrod to front up his "Mass in F Minor" project.
Bands like "Skip Battin and Gene Parsons Byrds" don't count.
I just thought of another - Doug Yule's "Velvet Underground's" Squeeze.
― Dr. C, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― -- Mike Hanley, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geoff, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Norman Fay, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jeff, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andrew L, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Am I right? By Gazeuse (1978), they surely only had one orig.member: Didier Malherbe.
Perhaps they still have him: did they not release something this year?
(It's a big old synchronistic BB at the moment, y'know: Strawbs, Gong, Santana (tarden dissed him just after I'd decided not to send a post w.an actually mighty dull me+Manzanera+Sanata anecdote, a self-censoring impulse I shd respect more often perhaps)
Fairport Convention, by the mid 70s, though nowadays they have Simon Nicol back on the roster.
Renaissance- In between the second album ("Illusion") and the third album ("Prologue"), the entire personnel of the band changed. Though strangely, their sound remained pretty much intact.
Art Zoyd started out with a completely different line-up (and different sound) than they are known for nowadays.
― Joe, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― X. Y. Zedd, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― JoB, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Paul Barclay, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Hmmm, haven't the Temptations made records in later years with, at best, only one original member, maybe even none? Some of these 60s groups like the Searchers, Fortunes et al who still play nostalgia tours come to mind, and I think Gareth's right about the Drifters.
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kodanshi, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dr. C, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And, of course, after the Yardbirds lost all their original members, a guitarist who'd joined shortly before the end booked a tour as the New Yardbirds. But then they changed their name to Led Zeppelin.
― Douglas, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― RickyT, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dr.C, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Schafron, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― doug thomas, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― greg antoniono, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― scott woods, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― J Blount, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― s woods, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mike a, Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 18 March 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 16 July 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago)
― Matt Golden (goldmatt), Sunday, 16 July 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago)
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Monday, 17 July 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago)
― LC (Damian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago)
― Faithful Shooter (faithfulshooter), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago)
― turtledoveDIES! (turtledoveDIES!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago)
― autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago)
The Supremes are still touring, aren't they?
Obviously, there is no Florence Ballard in the lineup. Neither is there a Diana Ross. And I am pretty sure Mary Wilson isn't in the band either.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago)
Ain't there also some sorta Yardbirds doin' nostalgic rounds somewhere still? Well they were a few years ago at least, right? What's the personnel, though...
― t**t, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago)
I think the current Yardbirds have Chris Dreja and Jim McCarty, and Mary Wilson tours as "The Supremes featuring Mary Wilson."
― C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago)
Did Pink Floyd record anything in the 80's or 90's with only Gilmour and session men?
a momentary lapse of reason was gilmour and session folks, with wright not playing anything at all on the record (he wasn't reinstated to full band member status until during or possibly after the ensuing tour), and nick mason only playing tom-toms on one track. so yeah, that counts. as "no original members," i mean. it certainly doesn't count as pink floyd.
― Lawrence the Looter, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago)
Deep Purple members
Apparently Lord has been out since 2002.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago)
The Gizmos!!!
Really kind of a fascinating evolution from the obscene Kenne Highland-led 70's rock zine geeks into the Dale Lawrence-led poppy punky songsters.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago)
Although The Brotherhood of Man have retained the same line-up since "Save Your Kisses For Me" in 1976, none of the members were in the original 1970 "United We Stand" line-up.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 10:46 (seventeen years ago)
Also, the Three Degrees lost their last original member (Fayette Pinkney) in 1976.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 10:51 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, current Yardbirds line-up has McCarty and Dreja. Until a couple of years ago they had former Dr. Feelgood guitarist Gypie Mayo too - see upthread for Dr. Feelgood info.
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago)
Deep Purple is one bizarre gardening accident away from qualifying.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago)
Deep Purple is one bizarre gardening accident away from qualifying
So is Styx. JY Young is the only guy left from the beginning.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago)
someone said the Drifters, yeah I saw a "Drifters" at the Bay Carnival in Timaru (prestigious gig!) that was all guys who i bet wren't even born when most of the Drifters hits came out. I think this is kind of a standard deal with lotsa black vocal groups of the '50s & '60s
well, yeah, but that's not why the drifters are all the all-time most successful version of this phenomenon. the drifters who had all those classic pop hits in the late '50s and early '60s shared no members with the drifters who had all those scorching r&b hits in the early '50s, though they were the same group.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago)
Thin Lizzy, I think.
― steampig67, Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
I was about to say Moody Blues, but Graeme Edge was in the original lineup, so they don't apply.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
Glen Miller's Orchestra still exists, doesn't it?
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
Indeed it does!
― our work is never over, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
Sensational Alex Harvey Band still tour
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
The Pipettes now have no original members.
― everything, Friday, 5 December 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.labnews.co.uk/cms_images/Image/Feb_pics/58-DEC.gif
― country matters, Friday, 5 December 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago)
Could there ever be a Fall album without MES?
Probably not...
― milling through the grinder, grinding through the mill (S-), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago)
The Pipettes now have no original members
except for the musicians, amirite?
― venkman boners are totally canon (sic), Friday, 5 December 2008 10:15 (sixteen years ago)
The current incarnation of The Sweet has no original members, but one of them was in the early 70s line-up.
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 5 December 2008 10:18 (sixteen years ago)
OK, the prize here goes to :
"Les Gray's Mud"
Which has no original members of Mud, not even Les Gray.
― Mark G, Friday, 5 December 2008 10:31 (sixteen years ago)
Chris Squire better beware gardening mishaps too.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 5 December 2008 10:59 (sixteen years ago)
Haha, that's magnificent.
Surely it's only a matter of time before Keisha goes solo and the Sugababes get another new girl in?
― Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)
Les Gray's dead, so he's not working much these days. Les Gray's Mud is a bit like Taggart then.
― Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)
I think The Poets (as in the 60s Scottish band) put out several records with completely different line-ups
― Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)
They did. I think they changed completely between 64/65 (I am So Blue, Thats The Way It's Got To Be-era) and Wooden Spoon in 1967. Then there might have been another early 70's version with a new set of members IIRC. They were a great band, whatever!
― Dr.C, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)
Surely it's only a matter of time before Keisha goes solo and the Sugababes get another new girl in?― Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:31 (6 months ago)
EERIE PRESCIENCE.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago)
i don't think it was that eerie, considering their history! "inevitable", maybe.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:32 (fifteen years ago)
The only acts I can think of who have charted in the UK with completely different line-ups: Brotherhood Of Man and Tight Fit. Such illustrious company!
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago)
England World Cup Squad - Back Home (1970), This Time (1986)
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:06 (fifteen years ago)
hoping that Ralf will leave Kraftwerk and be replaced
― unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:06 (fifteen years ago)
Still waiting for Wolfgang Flur's Kraftwerk to start doing the rounds
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago)
how the fuck is taht even possible? i mean, ffs, keisha was the last original member and they edged HER out?!? i think they (the ex members) should hook up and form another band
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
Napalm Death is kind of like the Ship of Theseus - none of the current members were in the original line-up, but it's still fundamentally the same band, is it not?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago)
^not if you ask certain of the original Napalm Death guys, especially Nic Bullen
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
Edison Lighthouse had a completely different line-up between "Love Grows Where My Rosemary Grows" and the lesser-known, but still charting follow-up "It's Up To You Petula".
― everything, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago)
P.M. Dawn - now a solo act featuring no original members of the duo
― robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago)
Not long ago, there was a fake Frankie Goes to Hollywood touring sports bars across the U.S. Not only were none of the original members involved, but none of the faux-Frankies had anything whatsoever to do with the original band - they just hijacked the name and ran with it. They disappeared shortly after _Spin_ ran an expose.― mike a, Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is fascinating! I just read the SPIN article. choice quote:
."New Frankie manager Harris, whose other clients include "The Great Regurgitator", and a man who can fart to the tune of "How Much is that Doggy in the Window?", had the chutzpah to send Nash a "cease and decessit (sic)" email, demanding he stop saying slanderous, malicious, or harmful remarks."
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:04 (six years ago)
mormon tabernacle choir
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:06 (six years ago)
The current lineup of Dr. Feelgood has no original members...despite the fact that three of the original four are still alive.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:13 (six years ago)
No founding members of Judas Priest remained by the time the band recorded its first single.
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:39 (six years ago)
Was just looking at the wiki for The Grass Roots, and almost everyone in their current lineup joined in the '80s. The sole exception, their singer/bassist, joined in 2008.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 December 2021 04:44 (three years ago)
Tangerine Dream
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 27 December 2021 08:31 (three years ago)
― steampig67, Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yup, Brian Downey subsequently rejoined them but left in 2013.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 27 December 2021 10:26 (three years ago)
Gong update: the longest-serving member of the current line-up joined in 2007, and rejoined in 2012. The longest continually serving member joined in 2009.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 27 December 2021 10:47 (three years ago)
Tangerine Dream and Gong are both unusual in that the founder member of each gave their blessing / encouraged them to continue after they had died and both are also pretty good live entities despite having no original members. Steve Hillage also sometimes still plays with Gong.
― stirmonster, Monday, 27 December 2021 11:41 (three years ago)
Yes haven’t been mentioned on this thread yet; they haven’t had any permanent original members since Chris Squire died in 2015, although Tony Kaye did some guest live dates with them in 2018-19.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 27 December 2021 14:27 (three years ago)
Yes at least have members who played on their best-known albums, even if they weren't there from the start. Some of these others are more like official tribute acts.
― they must have what you'd call some kind of 'arrangement' (Matt #2), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:33 (three years ago)
yeah, there's a difference between having no original members and having nobody from the classic lineup. for example, some people decry Morbid Angel's current incarnation as being a sham. It's not because it only has one original member (that was the case by the time their first album came out). but because it only has one of the three members of the classic lineup of Vincent/Sandoval/Azagthoth.
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:46 (three years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/04/meet-the-bands-with-no-original-members-left-yes-soft-machine-odyssey-molly-hatchet
― brain (krakow), Friday, 4 August 2023 07:43 (one year ago)
#onethread
After the group undertook a promotional tour to support the album Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus, Ferguson and Andes left the group, forming Jo Jo Gunne. California had accused them of plotting to take over the group. Their final gig with Spirit occurred on January 30, 1971, which almost ended with a fist-fight.John Arliss initially took Andes' place. California was still in the lineup, but he had suffered a head injury from a horse riding accident and was unable to tour. Shortly thereafter, bassist and recent University of Texas School of Law graduate Al Staehely was recruited by Locke and Cassidy to replace Arliss. The trio toured briefly before deciding that they had to add a guitarist to do the music justice. Al's brother, John Christian (Chris) Staehely, auditioned for the band and was quickly brought on board, departing the Texas rock group Krackerjack.The Staehelys, Cassidy and Locke recorded the 1972 album Feedback in Columbia/Epic's Hollywood studios. It was a different turn for the group, showing more of a country rock influence pervading their jazzier tendencies, but it only met with a mild commercial response, also reaching No. 63 in the charts. While the tour for Feedback proceeded very well for much of that year, Cassidy and Locke lacked an affinity for roots-based music and soon left the lineup. The Staehely brothers completed the critically successful tour with drummer Stu Perry before dissolving the group in mid-1973 and releasing their own album, Sta-Hay-Lee.
John Arliss initially took Andes' place. California was still in the lineup, but he had suffered a head injury from a horse riding accident and was unable to tour. Shortly thereafter, bassist and recent University of Texas School of Law graduate Al Staehely was recruited by Locke and Cassidy to replace Arliss. The trio toured briefly before deciding that they had to add a guitarist to do the music justice. Al's brother, John Christian (Chris) Staehely, auditioned for the band and was quickly brought on board, departing the Texas rock group Krackerjack.
The Staehelys, Cassidy and Locke recorded the 1972 album Feedback in Columbia/Epic's Hollywood studios. It was a different turn for the group, showing more of a country rock influence pervading their jazzier tendencies, but it only met with a mild commercial response, also reaching No. 63 in the charts. While the tour for Feedback proceeded very well for much of that year, Cassidy and Locke lacked an affinity for roots-based music and soon left the lineup. The Staehely brothers completed the critically successful tour with drummer Stu Perry before dissolving the group in mid-1973 and releasing their own album, Sta-Hay-Lee.
Imagine being stoked to see Spirit in 1973, and then getting pissed at the show because the bald guy wasn't on stage.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:30 (one year ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fit_for_a_King_(band)#Band_members
― StanM, Friday, 21 June 2024 20:06 (eleven months ago)