Cerrone "Black is Black" vs Rick Springfield "Black is Black"

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I hate the fuckin' original but the Cerrone cover epitomises I theory I have re covers ie it's entirely irrelevant what the 'interpreter' is supposedly interpreting, what the 'meaning' of the song is, 'recontextualisation' etc.. What's important is the concatenation of notes and how it fits the new textural surroundings. (RS' just sounds like the original, except faster)

― dave q, Friday, 14 February 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

alt ts - Springfield "Calling All Girls" vs Queen "Calling All Girls" vs Half Japanese "Calling All Girls", RS "I've Done Everything" vs Sammy Hagar "Dock of the Bay", RS "Inside Silvia" vs Hardrive "Deep Inside"

― dave q, Friday, 14 February 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(searching for dictionary to determine meaning of 'concatenation')

― j.a.e, Friday, 14 February 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

Speaking of 'Black' I can't believe nobody mentioned the opening to 'Cerrone VI' which is the same as the one to 'Back in Black', ie those church bells, except on the Cerrone one they're SYNCOPATED. True!

― dave q, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, you guys hate the Los Bravos version??? WHY?? I dunno, to me it seems like one THEE main garage-rock precursors of Eurodisco, which is why so many Eurodisco people (not just Cerrone!) covered it...(e.g., Belle Epoque do it, right? And sundry '80s Italodisco types.)

― chuck, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

er, wasn't it la belle epoque who did black is black (we like the music, we like that disco sound)

cerrone did the kenny everett naughty bits theme tune supernature, amongst other things.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The original isn't bad, I don't know why I went off on it. I particularly like the chord sequence, it's pretty ingenious. I think the significance of song structure in Euro-pop/disco is overlooked cuz nobody thinks there is or should be any, but things like (amount of verses)(verselength vs choruslength)(bridges that turn into chorusB's) etc. do make an actual difference to 'how the stuff affects you'/'how you 'listen' to it' (otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell the difference EVER, altho it's fine if you can't or deliberately try not to), or to put it differently listening to Euro tracks is like watching foreign flicks in that it's just got a whole different rhythmic 'feel'(subjective experience of time as measured against 'objective' chronological time where 'subjective experience' inc. methods one's consciousness has of processing/interacting with both) especially if you're used to having linearity verifiers at particular intervals except flicks are 3 hours long and tunes go between about 2 and 16 minutes so it's quicker to find out if you can adjust yourself to their pacing, or maybe some stuff just sounds more 'Euro' because the stuff's going through 240-Volt cables instead?

― dave q, Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

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