Lieder-pop :: Who wrote german art song with a pop touch???

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Would a specialist please tell me which lieder came the closest to modern pop music - combination of a killer melody with a rather simple form. I need some reccomendations because this search is rather overwhelming.

ddd, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

AGONY!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

something off Schumann's Liederkreis? Let me do some research.
Eisler's "Hollywood Songs" still sound very modern. Kind of Weill-esque but better.
There are some poppy numbers on Schubert's "Winterreise".
Beethoven's "An den Ferne Geliebte" (excuse the spelling).
"Urlicht" from Mahler's C minor symphony sounds like 'My Heart Will Go On' by Celine Dion.

Will try to get back to you.

Simon H (Simon Huxtable), Thursday, 20 February 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just going to start a lieder thread. Maybe I still will, seeing as this thread was poisoned by Sir Hasselhoff.

You might want to look for lieder by Hugo Wolf, like "Mausfallensprüchlein" or "Das Voglein."

Schumann's "Die Vogel" maybe?


My favorite German lieder are Mahlers "Kindertotenlider," but they are not pop at all.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 February 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Schubert's "Winterreise" gave me the idea for this search. i totally love that song and think it comes very close to pop music

ddd, Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a pop take on Schubert's 'Winterreise' on Oskar Tennis Champion, the new album from Mmmmmeeeeee. It's called 'A Little Schubert' and it's in German, totally web translated and therefore rather surreal. ORDER YOUR COPY FROM AMAZON NOW! (Customers who bought this album also bought 'The Four Seasons' by Vivaldi.)

Schubert is also done with pop sensibility by Japanese chanteuse (exec. produced by Haruomi Hosono out of YMO) Miharu Koshi.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

ten years pass...

i don't really care about the question posed by the OP, but can anyone help me out with some lieder recommendations? let me first say that i am incredibly ignorant about this entire genre. i didn't even know what it was until last week, and i certainly didn't realize that schumann/schubert/etc wrote lieder songs.

what grabbed my interest was a dollar bin record that my gf picked up recently called Slezak & Tauber Sing Lieder. it seems to be pretty obscure; it's not listed on allmusic or discogs. side one is Leo Slezak singing an assortment of Schumann and Schubert. side 2 is Richard Taubin singing songs from Die Winterreise. my very favorite cut is the side 1, song 1: Slezak singing Der Nussbaum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN10A4DFu7s

as i understand, the lieder genre is characterized by piano+voice. the arrangements are usually relatively short - a series of 2-3 minute songs. i especially like the Slezak/Tauber recording because the singing doesn't get overly operatic - it's totally chilled out, some nice crackly piano (see the youtube above) and beautiful melodies over the top, sung confidently but not...old opera lady high-pitch champagne glasses shattering style. but when i seek out other lieder recordings, i can't seem to find anything that tickles my fancy.

can anyone point me to a particular singer, song(s), or release?

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)

just in case the youtube doesn't embed above, it's here: youtuuuuuuuube - Leo Slezak Sings Schumann's 'Der Nussbaum' 1928

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

You can't go wrong with Fischer-Diskau.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)

ha, that's the first one i listened to after the the Slezak/Taubin recording! Fischer-Diskau singing Winterreise, accompanied by Gerald Moore on piano, to be specific.

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)

If you're just starting out, some songs you could check out (in addition to Winterreise) are

Schubert - "Erlkonig", "Der Doppelganger", "Du Bist die Ruhe"

Schumann - all of Dichterliebe

Brahms - "Wie Melodien zieht es mir"

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

This is a fun one I was tutoring about today:
http://youtu.be/49Fw2Mvel_s

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 April 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)


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