What's the worst thing that ever happened to you after giving a bad review?

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Me: almost beaten up by a guitarist whose solos I called "boring," and having my lukewarm review sarcastically read out loud by the lead singer of a riot grrrl band.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

It was hilarious.

RCA REP: "What did you think of the Republica album?"
ME: "I thought it sucked." (or words to this effect)
RCA REP: *pause* "...Well, a lot of other people liked it."

As you can see, 'worst' here means 'pathetic.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Veiled death threats, widescale webpage abuse campaign, shitloads of letters... the review was published in a fucking student newspaper, which makes it all the more tragic.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I interviewed EMF after dismissing their album, and my hole-in-the-head editor actually gave them copies of the review in question *WHILE THE INTERVIEW WAS IN SESSION*, which -- obviously -- completely changed the tone of the proceedings. Suffice to say, they remained admirably professional, but it got really chilly really fast.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

oh that's what student newspapers are for. relish it, i say.

the worst so far is a. creepy internet stalker types and b. some angry jockey slut fan boycotting the voice

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Some bands are surprisingly cool about that. I did a 45-minute interview with Bis, in which they were nothing but cordial and friendly. Only after the tape recorder went off did they reveal that they'd seen the horrible review I published of one of their singles. Luckily I wasn't the one who wrote it, but I got the impression they still would've been cool about it - they were laughing it off.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

earnest dude from band came up holding magazine open at relevant page & tried to engage me in discussion about it. that was all but that was bad enough.

duane, Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I NEVER got stalkers or hate-mail campaigns at my student newspaper. It would've been easy, too - just insult Pink Floyd.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Prefuse 73 told me I needed to "watch my back next time I rolled up in Williamsburg".

Sure dude. You gonna close my hand in your laptop?

mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I loved the hate mail I got while at Reflex. I was astounded that I pissed someone off enough with my opinion that they were compelled to write something and mail it to the office (this was before everyone had email)

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Jodi....you worked at Reflex? Do you know......brace yourself....Brad Balfour?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Did I tell you guys about the time with Hootie & the Blowfish, or Third Eye Blind?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

caught!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I worked with Brad at not just Reflex, but Rockpool as well.

We had a special name for him: Promosexual.

Meaning: if it was free, he took it.

Whatever happened to that guy?

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Prefuse 73 told me I needed to "watch my back next time I rolled up in Williamsburg".

!!

What did you say? I'm interviewing him on Monday.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

No truly outstanding stories, but I never cease to be amused at how often this scenario plays out, right down to the wording:

Earnest local band/artist hands me a CD and says, "I just want your honest opinion." If said honest opinion is unfavorable and appears in print, the inevitable pained and outraged letter to the editor invariably contains the phrase "personal attack."

Now that I think about it, I did once write an exhaustive scourging of Phish and got virulent hate mail from stirred-up fans across the nation for months, nay years. Not a bad experience, necessarily, though a bit wearying after a while.

Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

the following was emailed to my, ahem, mentor re: my review of the NIN live disc about a year or so ago (original spelling intact):

How about those New England Patriots? Who would have thought? But let's get to the point. Who hired XXX XXX and why is he reviewing albums? I'm sorry, but anyone that compares Trent Reznor to Shania Twain is a moron. Personally, I think the Downward Spiral and The Fragile are two of the better records of the 90's and the fragile may be one of the most complex albums I've ever heard. 
"Reznor's psuedo-rebellious posturing is just as vapid as the suburbia he supposedly rails against." I don't care how many big words you use in a review, if you don't know what you're talking about you're review really isn't credible. Aside from maybe "Starfuckers", The Fragile isn't a rebellious album by any stretch. If anything he's rebelling against his own  personal demons. The lyrics on that album, deffinitely seem more personal than rebellious in my oppinion. 
I don't know if XXX XXX has ever sat down and listened to a Nine Inch Nails album, but to say that their music is as crassly contrived as Brittney Spears and Sugar Jones is retarded. The next time Brittney spears takes five years to make a record as original and complex as The Fragile you let me know. 
I'd be willing to bet if Nince inch nails wasn't hugely popular he'd be calling them the most underrated band in music. I hate to jump to conclusions, but he's probably one of those guys that hates everything comercial and thinks that only indie cds are worth listening to. 

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I met Brad when I was interning at SPIN in the summer of `89, and he summarily recruited me to work on his fledgling project THE NEW YORK REVIEW OF RECORDS....a "consumer tip-sheet"-turned magazine based out of his overrun, grotty, vinyl-choked apartment. It later morphed into a larger operation, occupying various offices spaces around town (Brad would invarialby alienate a landlord or two along the way, forcing the endeavor to move shop a few times, so to speak). I worked at the NEW REVIEW (its later, truncated title) for a few years then moved on -- somewhat frustrated by Brad's well-intentioned but often self-defeating modus operandi. The magazine eventually folded, and Brad floundered around for a while (rumours of a nervous breakdown abound), but he later turned up editing IRISH CONNECTION (despite him being the furthest thing on the planet from Irish) for a while. Now, I believe he's writing film reviews for somewhere....or at least he was the last time I talked to him. You're completely accurate about his voracious appetite for freebies. It rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, somewhat understandably.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

"he's probably one of those guys that hates everything comercial and thinks that only indie cds are worth listening to"

Oh yes, the "indier-than-thou" accusation. My favorite!

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Once a guy to whom I gave a bad review told friends he was considering beating the shit out of my editor. Then, a couple weeks later, the guy quit playing music and went into hiding. As far as I know, the other guys in his band haven't heard from him since. I feel really bad about all this.

charlie va (charlie va), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh, Alex, he tried to get me to work for NYROR, and I told him that "records can't pay my rent"

Irish Connection? Whoa.

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Not yet had anything post bad review... but previously, I did the Listings page at the uni paper, where I was informed by a local theatre that they felt I had decimated their student audience by saying that one of their acts looked like a chunkier Su Pollard. Which she did. Oh, and I got a letter done in cut out newsprint once after I couldn't find the cinema listings for one week and thus filled up a column with films that patently didn't exist (Chuckle Brothers En Direct De Marseille, Simon Brown's 100 Greatest Test Wides, that kind of thing). Had a picture of Fran Healy sucking someone off. Which was interesting.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, I DO NOT WRITE.

My boyfriend back in the early eighties had a boston area fanzine. He had some review of the latest Black Flag in there and used a Black Sabbath comparison. Black Flag were playing in town and for some reason I was in the dressing room. I think I thought it was "my room" since I spent so much time there. Anyhow, Henry Rollins was reading the review and my boyfriend was not in the room at the time. Henry got to the part about Black Sabbath and went nuts..."ANY MONKEY WITH A FUCKING TYPEWRITER" and picked up a fairly heavy chair (I think he was already "working out" at this point) and violently flung it against the far wall.

I quietly exited the room without assessing the damage and stood clear of Mr. Rollins for the evening. Funny thing was, the Black Sabbath reference was a COMPLIMENT!

The only thing that comes close recently was a review of a local-ish Beatles cover band that I published:

http://www.sanfranciscoartmagazine.com/02/july/music/rue/rue.html

The guy sent me some er, angry email (see editor's note at the bottom of the article) and the only thing I could agree with him on was that I didn't notice "Something" being credited to the wrong Beatle...but I couldn't feel too bad since each Beatle was referred to "NOT"-"Whichever Beatle" due to their having to avoid somekind of trademark/copyright infringement which precludes them from referring to themselves as John, Paul, Ringo and George. So, "Something" is by Not Lennon I suppose.

Then he seemed to get more angry by the "editor's note" that I posted and that I was sticking up for my writer in that she was entitled to her opinion and all...it IS a review, right? I know I am just a publisher and a poor speller and fact checker of an editor (which I happy and proudly admitted to him), but I thought a review was an OPINION PIECE...

Anyhow how, after a few back and forth emails from BurmaKitty, oh, I mean Sheilah, we seemed to sort it out - his blowing it out of proportion - and the fact that I didn't put him down or fight back with him. Hey, I don't like it when people tell me I suck, so why wouldn't I expect people's feelings to get hurt? So he ended up telling me that I could bring my friends to Tahoe and he would give us comps for the show, and basically seems like an ok guy.

BURMAKITTY <<----------- behind a big green curtain, flipping switches and knobs on a big computer/machine looking thing.
"Pay no attention to the link to the Mission of Burma preview article in the sidebar of that webpage"

There's no such thing as payola when no one gets, er, PAID!!!

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)

One person (whose dreadful record I reviewed rather savagely) told my _girlfriend_ that he'd beat me up if he ever saw me. This did not go over too well with her.

On the other hand, a couple of negative reviews I've written have led to really good things & friendships with the artists in question. So go figure.

Brad Balfour: AIEEEEEEE!!!

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

A couple of months ago, I wrote a rave review of an album by a band that I have really liked and respected for years now. The next week, I reviewed a compilation album put out by the label owned and run by the lead singer/guitarist/songwriter of this band, basically saying it wasn't very exciting and I don't like comp albums in general. He wrote me an email saying that he didn't understand my review, that he had avoided sending out promo cds for several years and had just started doing this recently, and that my review was making him think that maybe sending out promos was a bad idea. Complicating matters is that my band was supposed to open for his band later and I was supposed to interview him. So I wrote him back saying sorry I made him mad but he shouldn't put all the blame for not sending out promos on me, and blah blah blah, and he wrote back saying sorry, but it was this big emotional deal, because it was someone I respected a lot. I guess I still respect him. My band can't open for his anymore, but I'm playing solo, and I'm not sure if I'm going to do the interview or not. I guess that isn't too bad, but I've only been reviewing for like 6 months or something (I've gotten 2 other complaints about bad reviews, but neither were really that vitriolic).

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

"oh, we got a bad review so we're not sending out promos anymore."
that sounds like an admission of defeat to me.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

If I did something violent and drastic after every unfavorable review of my band's material, I'd be the Usama Bin Laden of the music industry!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Very early in my reviewing career (1994) I was blacklisted for a short while by a record label after giving one of their top electronic groups a bad write-up. That didn't last very long and the group's producer has always been very friendly to me.

One of Holland's best known rappers refused to shake my hand at a festival last year after I had written a bad review of his band four years previously. He continued to slander me in a recent interview in the magazine that I work for (article not by me).

Two years ago Sony Music cancelled my (aready scheduled) trip to New York to interview Ghostface Killah and someone else after I had said on a TV news show that Michael Jackson's new album wasn't very good and that his career was not what it used to be.

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Douglas....you know Brad too? Jesus, the guy's ubiquotous.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Jodi, where do you work now?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Has anyone ACTUALLY gotten beaten up as a result of a review they wrote/published? I'm beginning to think that though we've all gotten threatened at one point or another, very few of these knuckleheads have brought it.

And I agree with Douglas - some of the harshest reviews I've ever written have led to long-lasting friendships. Funny how that works.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

All musicians are failed pro wrestlers.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I got threatened by Henry Rollins after writing a piece about Wartime (remember them?) wherein I described him as "more interested in the newest issue of MUSCLES magazine than he was in my questions about the music" because he chose to read a fitness mag while I sat in a room with him and Andrew. So I asked Andrew the questions (and got more intelligent answers, I would think) and wrote the piece.

A week after Henry said "If I ever see that guy again, I'll bash his face in" or words to that effect, the Rollins Band played at Saratoga Winners in upstate New York, where I was attending school at the time. I decided to confront him on his remark (because hey, if he actually did hit me, it would be a story to tell my kids)and upon seeing that I was *not* male like he had assumed, he apologized profusely and then asked me where the guys in the band could get some "really good weed".

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I interviewed Rollins circa WARTIME as well (he was playing that night at the long-gone Marquee on way west 21st street with the Rollins Band), and he was summarily intense....tho' he did lighten up by the end of the interview. (this was also for the NYROR). I innocently asked him if he kept in touch with any of his contemporaries (meaning folks like Ian MacKaye, Keith Morris, etc.....this was in `91 or so) and he got all uppity at the world "contemporaries," forcing me to back-pedal and explain more precisely what I meant. He cooled off, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The only time this happened to me was when me and a friend published a fanzine in high school and I savaged a local hardcore band's debut 7" in print. Their buddy B.J. Paine (google away!) threatened me. All it led to was that I couldn't go to the Taco Bell near Tewligans on a Friday night for like a couple months. Big deal.

Hi Jodi - Joel here. How are you? I think the business card I gave you when I ran into you on the train has a major typo, oddly enough.

Didn't Weis get kicked outta RollinsBand for being a "druggie?"

hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Weiss was the best thing to ever happen to any Rollins related anything. I wish hes make another album with the brothers Ween.

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I sense another benchmark question being formulated here to go along with the "Whoever has not been in Cat Power, raise your hand!" one:

"Whoever has not pissed off Henry Rollins, raise your hand!"

Sorry, I'm just sorta punchy today.

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember hearing something about Andrew Weiss getting bored with being in the Rollins Band and laying down on the stage during performances and absent-mindedly playing Grateful Dead tunes, much to the purple-faced, vein-popping chagrin of Mr.Rollins.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:05 (twenty-three years ago)

goddamn, I haven't written a really negative review since the stuff I did for my local paper in high school (and nobody cared there). Now I'm half afraid to (at the very least I'm really gonna try not to get personal in my criticisms).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

What? You wimp, get in there. If you hate something, say so! I did like yer Cure review in the blog, BTW. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Mosurock, did Prefuse 73 really say that! if so, that is the lamest thing ever uttered. Prefuse 73 has a posse, right...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:19 (twenty-three years ago)

jess-do you mean a fan of the magazine?
what did you say about it?
do magazines in general have hardcore fans?

robin (robin), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

robin: "jockey slut fan" was merely shorthand for twattish american dance music aesthete (also i think he namechecked the mag in his indignant letter), it was in response to my dj sammy piece: "blah blah you NEVER cover dance music and then its THIS SHIT" etc etc.

i get such limp haters if you go by this thread...it's kind of depressing

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)

No death threats or boiled bunnies or anything particularly exciting. _________ _____'s mailing list said some funny things. And then there's the fax I received from someone at ___ -- he sent me copies of all the reviews I wrote for their records, with remarks like "WELL!" and "NOT TRUE!" written in various places. (With one exception, the reviews were very positive.) In the review of the ___ single, I made a remark about the B-side saving the group from being compared to King Missile and the Dead Milkmen. It was a compliment, after all (sort of), but those bands were circled and "FUCKING COME ON, MAN!" -- or something very similar -- was scrawled above.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Prefuse 73 has a posse, right...

Well, he does have a lot of pseudonyms.

I got a funny but angry email from Mac Superchunk once when I criticized his jazz label on the chi-improv email list, but that doesn't really count.

hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait wait wait, he has a JAZZ label? What in the name of god does that release, and is it as studied and boring as I think it would be?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I sorta liked the collab he did with Vandermark, but not really as a jazzercise.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

It's called Wobbly Rail (after the Cecil Taylor tune), and there's only been a couple things. I think there's a site?

hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I had a load of precious indie snobs go off at me on the Stylus webboard for not knowing enough about hardcore after my Fugazi review last week. I was actually really complimentary about the music - I just said the fans were cunts.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm banning myself from this thread.

Jerry (Jerry), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)

You think Fugazi fans are cunts? Try Bright Eyes fans. I still get hate mail for a review I wrote several months ago. I have never been called "heartless" by such a wide range of people. But I suppose it follows that people who are deeply moved by Connor's adolescent prattle would also be deeply moved to hate by a simple record review. These people are nothing but exposed nerves, I tell ya.

http://www.artandlies.com/analog_roam/archives/000069.html

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Nothing really bad has happened to me. Lots of bitchy emails and once someone said something to me in person, but that's about it. Oddly, I still get two or three pieces of hatemail a day due to a lukewarm Strokes review that I wrote back in September 2001.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I just like that picture in the review Kenan linked to.

http://www.nrk.no/img/188895.jpeg

"Love ME!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Stab the little bitch's eyes out. Man, I'd hate to hear that record. I got quite a roasting off Starsailor fans 18 or more months ago when a brief missive (findable here if one scrolls down a bit) I wrote found it's way, ahem, onto their website messageboard. One chap dissected it over the course of 4,000 words. Man, I wish I cared that much about anything.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I've done little damage in the music world. But I wrote a restaurant review that resulted in the owner of the newspaper, who boldly shielded me from a threatened lawsuit, being banned from his favorite restaurant for life. And it wasn't even a negative review, really.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

How did he get banned then? Please elucidate.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I've gotten hate mail because of hyperbolic rants I've posted here. Unfortunately I have no idea which artist I was ranting about because the people convinced I must change my ways never reference the artist I've made fun of.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

The first thing I ever wrote professionally (I was a 16-year-old intern at a large daily newspaper) got the paper threatened with a lawsuit (a story about a Christian teen center). I wanted to stop then and there. I shoulda.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I wrote something for a site I'm not longer affiliated with about how his record sounded like dinner music to me, and was much too studied and uptight to be as "street" as he'd liked it to have been. I went and listened to the rest of his records (savath + savalas, delarosa & asora) after he confronted me, and re-reviewed it, and still hated it -- "Uprock Narratives" is one of the most sterile things I've heard since "To the Extreme" and I hate how uptight people get about that record when it clearly blows.

His last EP was much better.

mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Please elucidate.

The owner of the restaurant took offense at one or two comments I made in the review, which he interpreted as direct jabs at certain hygiene problems the restaurant had been having (which I was unaware of). He called the paper and threatened to sue them, then wanted my personal information so he could sue me individually. The newspaper owner/publisher laughed it off as a frivolous and unwinnable lawsuit, and indeed the lawsuit was never pressed, but a diktat was issued that no reservations would be accepted for the publisher.

The restaurant is still going strong several years later, and I've been back, anonymously of course, for a few excellent meals.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never been threatened, but I did feel like a jack-ass once. I had written a scathing review of a Harvey Danger CD for my university newspaper a few days before the band was playing a local club. On the day of the show, I was at a local record shop, hanging out with the manager, when the conversation turned to Harvey Danger. I recounted the gist of my review and the conversaton devolved into just a general bashing of the band.
And we were talking fairly loudly.
As it turned out, the only three customers in the store were members of Harvey Danger, just doing some record shopping before their show. After they let us know, before pointedly leaving, I kind of felt like a jerk.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Not completely on topic, but a couple years ago I received a Bogdan Raczinski album for review & the one-sheet was about nothing but how the music press were a bunch of assholes. It started off saying something like, "You stupid piece of shit...too lazy to make your own music, so you just sit around and judge the creative work of others...." or something. Really nasty stuff, which I thought was so great in a press release (I wish I'd saved it.) So I thought the album was mediocre at best & said so (my review was "bad" in the sense of "poorly written," unfortunately), & then the next day Raczynski dropped me an email saying, "Thanks for the review."

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

re Kenan

"Pretension this forced rarely makes it out of a sixteen-year-old's bedroom; here, we get an entire album of it."

Damn, that's cold.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 21 February 2003 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)

My first thought when I saw this thread was: "When my reviews aren't very well-written I usually just feel bad about it, there's no nausea or vomiting or anything."

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 February 2003 00:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Ned is more Conor obsessed then any Bright Eyes fan I know.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:02 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yes, he must be really jealous or something

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

FFS

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

The worst thing that happened to me? The band sent me another demo.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)

i got egged at a follow up show and handed the "critics are just no talent, frustrated musicians" jab mentioned recently here on ilm. gosh, and it was a fanzine. and gosh, i had a least as much musical talent as they did. i just chose not to torture anyone with it.

some friends thought it was pretty funny though cause i wasn't much of a scenester and was kind of that "quiet guy at all the shows that not too many people know" and here i was getting egged by one of the bands and screamed at.

my friends thought it was an act until afterwards.

ah, good times.
m.

msp, Friday, 21 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

My first thought when I saw this thread was: "When my reviews aren't very well-written I usually just feel bad about it, there's no nausea or vomiting or anything."

Yeah me too -- I was thinking we were going to talk about the time we got some key fact wrong & how humiliating it was & now the bad review will still be floating around the www even after they plant me.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Next time (well, the first time) some lame-ass rock star wannabe gives me the "you're just frustrated because you're no good at music" line, I should just retort "well, considering your lyrics, YOU might be the one that's frustrated over being no good at writing."

(note: this will not work if the act in question plays instrumental stuff)

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Ned is more Conor obsessed then any Bright Eyes fan I know.

You would be quite wrong there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Kenan, that's a terrific Bright Eyes review.

charlie va (charlie va), Friday, 21 February 2003 01:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Wrote a review of R.E.M.'s Automatic for the People for my college paper, calling it embarrassingly bathetic. Like all my other album reviews the year before, it got buried in the third, fourth page, and anyway I wasn't expecting any great reaction so it didn't matter.

A week or two later, the paper later ran a rebuttal. The gist of it was that the author wanted to tell the world that he used to listen to shit like Bon Jovi but had now truly evolved, and gee, if I wasn't such a heartless cynic and really listened to Automatic one last time, maybe I could see that the album was a really really meaningful masterpiece that spoke to the heart. His review was the cover story.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 21 February 2003 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

"well, considering your lyrics, YOU might be the one that's frustrated over being no good at writing."

CLASSIC RESPONSE. Mind if I use it?

mike a (mike a), Friday, 21 February 2003 02:38 (twenty-three years ago)

On allmusic.com they list Connor Oberst's instrument as "Hair Stylist."

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 21 February 2003 02:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Go right ahead. The sooner it comes into common parlance, the sooner crappy musicians will have to find some other excuse for critics not liking them (i.e. "you need to get laid more")

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 21 February 2003 03:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Another college paper story -- indignant U2 fan calls me after dismissive review of "Rattle and Hum" (both the movie and the soundtrack) and proceeds to tell me the long, long story of his deep personal connection to U2's art and how his entire dormroom wall is covered with U2 stuff and how clearly no one with as little knowledge of, respect for, or capacity for appreciating the transcendent greatness of U2 as myself should ever be allowed to attempt a critique of the band, and how irresponsible it was of the paper to let someone like myself soil the holy name of U2 in print. I finally hung up on him, after letting this go on for 10 minutes or so. The funny thing is, until that phone call, I kind of thought I was still a U2 fan.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 21 February 2003 04:16 (twenty-three years ago)

You may still be a U2 fan. You can now take comfort, though, in the knowledge that you are not a nutball.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 21 February 2003 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)


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