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Could anyone tell me what the best Jandek albums are please? much appreciated. I havent heard any as yet.

Henry Fowler, Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Save yourself some money by not buying any Jandek records, and simulating the experience of listening to one by plugging in an electric guitar and then picking up and dropping it on your own foot twice a minute for half an hour. Actually, this won't save you any money in gross, but it will be more pleasant per dollar.

ara, Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Your best bet, and I'm not being sarcastic here, is to order a box of them from Corwood. I think it's like 10 albums for $20 or something like that.

You're just as well off casting runes or rolling a 12-sided die to choose one as having one recommended to you. In my experience, anyhow.

jodi shapiro (burun), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

''I think it's like 10 albums for $20 or something like that.''

really?!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty much, yes. And they're great!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say actually the easiest way in might just be the first, Ready for the House. In any case, it's not that difficult of a listen. It's kind of neat and psychedelic and stoned in a Skip Spence kind of way. "European Jewel" is a great song and since it turns up in his catalog like three or four more times in different versions, you might as well hear the original.

You Walk Alone is a really good one if you like the blues. It sounds like Royal Trux.

Anyway, I'd try one of those before I'd get the recent, all-vocal, ones.

Also, if you haven't, take a look at this, a really well done site with little capsules about the records.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

20 albums for $80 is the cheapie deal. I, too, would say _Ready for the House_ is the best starting point--lays out his aesthetic neatly. _Telegraph Melts_ is pretty impressive-in-its-way too.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm partial to the Foreign Keys/Telegraph Melts period, the latter of which has the terrifying "You Painted Your Teeth," which always freaks me out. I don't have it, but some people swear by Blue Corpse.

If you're gonna get one of his spoken albums, try This Narrow Road. The way the dictaphone (or whatever he's using to record) cuts in and out has a great effect.

If I remember correctly, the first half dozen or so albums are very similar in sound. So, as others have recommended, get Ready for the House and then skip ahead to the next period (drums! Nancy!).

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Telegraph Melts scares the shit out of me. He sounds really happy. It still scares the shit out of me. Ready For The House drags on a bit. I absolutely love Interstellar Discussion, though. It's really varied and there are some great songs on it. Basically just pick stuff out and see what you like. They're cheap enough that if you don't like something it's not like a big waste of your money.

James Annett (jlannett), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ernest speaks truth. Blue Corpse was what I heard first and what hooked me in, and after the fourth or fifth listen I was a convert.

I like The Living End and White Box Requiem. Also, most of the albums from the collaborative period (with Nancy et al) have some great songs. I don't really get into the first three or four albums quite so much, and the spoken word records are hard going (but very very interesting if you set them to your own music)..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

My favorites, for what it's worth, are Blue Corpse, You Walk Alone, and Interstellar Discussion. I haven't heard them, but from what I gather, the most recent two albums (both released in 2002 I think) abandon the spoken word aspect.

Worthwhile URL: http:// www.jandekoncorwood.com and http://tisue.net/jandek

Ian Johnson, Friday, 21 February 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard the recent two non-accapella records but the impression I get from fans is that they have been received in a somewhat lukewarm manner.. has our Janky jumped the shark?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 21 February 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Of the dozen or so I've heard so far, Lost Cause is the one I find myself coming back to the most -- it starts out with some pretty memorable and surprisingly conventional tunes, then slowly becomes more and more Jandekian, finishing up with a side-long electric freakout of epic proportions. I'm surprised more people don't pick it as one of their favorites, I think it's a great summing-up of a lot of different Jandek sounds.

Ready For The House is absolutely soul-crushing, terrifying stuff. I'd definitely recommend it, but be prepared to be completely creeped out by it -- it's a seriously claustrophobic piece of work. As for the most recent stuff, I haven't heard the latest non-spoken-word CD, but the one before it, I Threw You Away, is pretty wild, full of moaning and howling. I'd say it's worth getting.

Oddly, I have yet to really be grabbed by Blue Corpse, which seems to be a favorite of many Jandek fans. I remember liking Telegraph Melts, though.

Phil (phil), Friday, 21 February 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I just had a discussion about how Jandek albums would up signed in a southern Ontario radio station library tonight. Now I am drinking water which I think is much more entertaining.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 21 February 2003 07:13 (twenty-two years ago)

jandek>coke>water.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 21 February 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"Follow Your Fotsteps" and "Blus Corpse" do it for me.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 21 February 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

c'mon... sombody out there has to know or have some sort of connection to the man himself. the music makes me so curious.

chaki (chaki), Friday, 21 February 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Gala/8418/jiview.html

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 21 February 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

that didnt answer anything!

chaki (chaki), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yes it did! Jandek has nice cufflinks!!

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It means that guy in the interview is going to be what you see next to you in bed when you wake up some day. Strange, I know.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Jandek could be working at a bank near you. imagine that!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Jandeks cuffs are not unlinked.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Six And Six, You Walk Alone, Telegraph Melts and Blue Corpse are my favs.Warning: Once you start you may never come back...Jandek will mess with your mind.

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
So now there's this new Jandek best of and I'm all like "Oh great, I can finally hear what's so great about this band without wading through 88 hours of pond-scum" and I put the thing on and it is COMPLETE FUCKING TORTURE! This is his BEST stuff? What the FUCK are people talking about?! "Catchy" "songs"?! Haha "hooks"?!?! And even for an indie-rock guy Jandek can NOT fucking SING!! ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL ON THE FUCKING CRACK???? STOP SMOKING THE FUCKING CRACK! IT IS BAD FOR YOU!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Favorite albums: Lost Cause, Interstellar Discussion, The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning. (The latter ends with about 20 minutes of solo piano that's better than some Cecil Taylor records I own.) (Some, not all.)

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It's funny this thread should be revived...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

What's more surprising: Jandek having a best of? Gygax not being into Jandek?

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ian: Gygax is parodying something on the GBV thread...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, darn me for not reading the GBV thread first.

Alas and alack.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry about that, but yeah replace Jandek with Los Del Rio, Basement Jaxx, Dean Friedman, etc. Typical ILM BS.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post --> too much scrabble has scrambled your head, little hobbit.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

longest crosspost delay evah

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, i got your AIM at about 4:30am this morning JC. the Jandek exercise was not founded in fact (although i haven't listened to the man in several years now).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

It's turned into something more involved and interesting than I expected, and is definitely no longer trying to be an exact portrait like the earliest chapters try and be. Somewhere between fanfic and psychological study, eventually. Or so I hope.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

you should send it to the great man himself when you're done

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord, what a frightening thought.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, you should send it to him. I sent a letter to Jandek a few years ago because I wanted to get his permission to use his music in a film project that I never actually got around to working on, and he sent me a letter in return. He explained that he doesn't mind people using his music in films, but does not want money, only credit. He offered to send me a box of cds, and for some reason I never wrote back and accepted his offer even though I really would have liked to have had a bunch of free Jandek cds.

I'll have to set aside some time to read your stuff, Ned...

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

things to do with a boxful of jandek cds...

1)

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeeps, personally I'd think it was a weird intrusion! Especially since the story really only uses his general situation and some specific details as a background to something else which is invented out of whole cloth. I've specifically not used his name (or the label's or any of the album titles) for a reason.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose I'll let the guys at the fansite know about it, though. Hell, it's where I'm getting all the chapter titles and the image on the main page!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, yes, my little novel thing is done and I did write Seth Tisue about it, at least, along with including a little disclaimer of sorts. Rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

you wrote a novel based on jandek album titles?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope, not titles.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

covers?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Not specifically.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

complete and utter speculation?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Read the disclaimer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

No!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn man, I've been yelling on Twitter about wanting to do a Jandekcast for several years now. Sometimes I've been conceiving it seriously - or as something completely different while the Jandek album in question plays in the background.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:33 (five years ago)

Basically, the Jandekcast should be to podcasts what Jandek is to all other music. Or something.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:34 (five years ago)

Would be interesting doing track by track analysis with some of those albums,with snippets

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:53 (five years ago)

Would definitely subscribe to the jandekcast patreon. Especially if elvis telecom made guest appearances.

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 06:29 (five years ago)

At risk of liver damage, if our voices could make a Jandekcast work and worthy of the Rep - I'm in.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 07:15 (five years ago)

you need a separate podcast just for the LP covers. will never not be in awe of the countless non-chronological portraits captured of the rep throughout his life.

i think i could spend forever thinking about jandek.

maelin, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:23 (five years ago)

I would 100% kickstart a moderately expensive coffee table/art book with good 12x12 reproductions of the original album covers

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:45 (five years ago)

So one time the Rep from Corwood played a gig in Mankato, MN and his band featured some friends of mine so post-gig we end up at a little house party & the Rep himself was there, in all black, big hat, etc. And so obv no one is talking to him & it is all very awkward and weird, like this is a REALLY small place.

And we were kind of told by the host of the party that we probably shouldn't talk to him but one of my friends who I rode down with was like "we gotta talk to Jandek, but I don't know what to say" and my friend is not like a shy person at all but we were all a bit starstruck.

I decide, dude is from Texas, I know how to talk to someone from Texas, so I go up to him

"Hey, uh good show man"
Rep From Corward, totally stone faced: "..."
"Yeah...so, hey if I went to Houston where is the best place to get BBQ?"

At this point his eyes light up, he gets this little grin and sez: "huh, well I make the best BBQ in Texas" and from that point on I cannot get Jandek to shut up, we talk whiskey, hats, wild javelinas, BBQ, but anytime we even get close to music or anything he gets really quiet.

It was a weird night man, HBD weirdo

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:13 (five years ago)

haha fucking brilliant. i feel like he's a normal bloke who doesn't want the spirits his house have given him. hank hill and the rep have a lot in common.

maelin, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:37 (five years ago)

lmao that's an amazing story

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

perhaps it's just me but I really cooled on Jandek after that two-part interview in The Wire - like, I know he didn't actually say much but it was still kinda too much information

much preferred having a speculative relationship with the Jandek project

having said that the one time I saw him live (Melbourne, with David Keenan and Heather Leigh) was extraordinary

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:48 (five years ago)

Was disappointed by the show I saw — he had an amazing band (Loren Mazzacane Connors, Matt Hecker, and Chris Corsano) but played synth and recited poetry all night instead of going improv noise-jam like you normally would if you had those three behind you. LMC got a couple of good solos off, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:07 (five years ago)

xp I'm pretty sure 90% of that interview was total BS

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:23 (five years ago)

Saw three shows in the space of a week and were all very different from memory. Two Youngs/Neilsons bookended a Mick Flowers/Chris Corsano show which was probably the noisiest? Third show was most structured and had some definite angular/post punk tunes you could probably have hummed the tune to. One even had a dance routine of sorts, or at least defined arm waving.

Actually the thing I remember most is the Representative carrying around what seemed to be his musical wordly goods - lyrics sheets, song notes, strings - in a supermarket carrier bag that he held overly tightly.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:26 (five years ago)

I'm pretty sure 90% of that interview was total BS

BS as in it was deliberately trying to twist the tail of Wire-reading chins-strokers? Or BS as in made up?

Either way it was kind of a drag

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 00:25 (five years ago)

completely made up, imo

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 00:29 (five years ago)

he had an amazing band (Loren Mazzacane Connors, Matt Hecker, and Chris Corsano) but played synth and recited poetry all night instead of going improv noise-jam like you normally would if you had those three behind you.

this is the jandek way. he's not going to ride the wave, he's going to try to fuck it up and be alienating wherever possible. and recite poetry.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:12 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

about to start marathon listening to entire corwood discography, one LP a week. groovy! who's in? ...anybody? ...

maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:00 (five years ago)

I'm in for a while, first 22 at least

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:04 (five years ago)

I would be very down for a Jandek listening thread/discussion

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:24 (five years ago)

I'm in

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:16 (five years ago)

six months pass...

Jandek...the book.

Jandek New BOOK Release:

0127 The Rays Of Light That Did Not Illumine https://t.co/s2obsK93TT pic.twitter.com/SLwvEDCEIR

— Sheila Smith (@veganloca) May 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:18 (four years ago)

I'm assuming poetry...but hoping for confessional autobiography.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:30 (four years ago)

Then it turns out it's just nothing but accounting figures.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (four years ago)

"1990, good year."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (four years ago)

Hoping for horror stories, expecting lyrics

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:39 (four years ago)

hoping for political cartoons

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:43 (four years ago)

given the title and shape I'm guessing LP cover photobook

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:06 (four years ago)

friend of mine got it

20 page prose poem

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:38 (four years ago)

only $10 on the website!

sleeve, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:40 (four years ago)

three years pass...

what does it mean when Jandek just sounds REALLY right to you? like, the planets are aligned and any album or live recording of his is just...right in your mental wheelhouse. all the chords and notes and riffs sound like the perfect way to play something. the singing and lyrics the perfect way to express life on earth.

it isn't always like this. by a long shot. should i call a doctor? or just roll with it while it lasts?

i mean this glasgow sunday live album right now is just hitting the spot in a big way. but i've been listening all morning and it just sounds righter and righter.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:47 (one year ago)

Just roll with it. That aphorism about everything finding an audience eventually is legitimate.

Too bad yr not in Los Angeles, Jandek is playing the Lodge Room tonight and there's still tickets available

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:05 (one year ago)

sometimes when I’m listening to John Oswald’s Plexure I’m just like “I don’t need to listen to anything else again. can all music be like this?”

brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 04:47 (one year ago)

yeah in my experience listening to Jandek is this journey from "I'm too upright to not have to be thinking about the whole deal" to "I'm listening to music, but I'm also thinking about Jandek" to "I've internalized all the stuff about Corwood and his anonymity and his emergence and that's all background now and I'm just listening and it feels like music that is very alive, very human, very individual."

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:56 (one year ago)

Telling my kids this was Primus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLwiYpSTFE

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:59 (one year ago)

that is such a magical clip

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:06 (one year ago)

Grab yrself a can o' Cor woo-da

River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:22 (one year ago)

I know I heard this late at night on KROQ in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgAdBibDVwE

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 June 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 3 June 2024 19:19 (one year ago)

first of all - i am totally happy for him and them
but wow, given what Jandek represented way-back-when
(i was at that first glasgow gig)
it is hard to wrap my wee brain around the idea that he's in a long-term relationship with (married to?) someone who likes to post snaps of them both on instagram! such an inversion of the earlier anonymity. it's kinda nice.

https://www.instagram.com/veganloca/?hl=en

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:13 (one year ago)

my brother took my nephews to that rudyards gig. they must have been 10 & 13 or so
apparently the encore started up exactly where the main set emded

sknybrg, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:34 (one year ago)

wow i had no idea about mrs. jandek! so weird. she is a really big Smiths fan. what a world we live in.

scott seward, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 02:50 (one year ago)


call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

all the best Jandek stuff is pretty annoying! but it's for getting annoyed by in the privacy of your home

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:06 (one year ago)

Don't paint your teeth

timellison, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:11 (one year ago)

too late

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:01 (one year ago)

It's wild looking back that all the speculation at the time was that Sterling was ill and close to death which was why he started playing shows, when now with hindsight it looks far more likely it was his wife's idea.

Overtoun House windows (aldo), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:11 (one year ago)

he had definitely been ill, at least according to my nurse wife who saw him play in like 2007-2008 and was struck by it

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:12 (one year ago)

i.e. why not both?

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:13 (one year ago)

sometimes a good relationship can change someone's life

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:23 (one year ago)

every time i eat a cantaloupe i hear jandek singing "cantaloupes are SOOOOOO good to eat"

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 17:51 (one year ago)


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