― naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Sex Pistols - EMIBlink 182 - EMOEMF - Unbelievable
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
anything-core is kinda lame unless it's alliterative or clever so how about APPLECORE? has that been used? where's my P&J ballot!
― Aaron A., Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
EMO is like emotional punk or something stupid like that, it's supposed to be more serious and little less pointless than punk, but it sucks, avoid it if you can. -- naga_pampa (naga_pamp...)
-- naga_pampa (naga_pamp...)
Could you name some bands? Is Crass more emo than the Sex Pistols?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Waitasecond!
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
hey its easy, i'm doing it now
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
haha colin meeder to thread plz! -- jess (dubplatestyl...) (webmail), February 25th, 2003 4:16 PM. (later) (dubplatestyle) (link)
-- jess (dubplatestyl...) (webmail), February 25th, 2003 4:16 PM. (later) (dubplatestyle) (link)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)
sex pistols = popkelley osbourne = punk
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
It will go something along the lines of:
I like Green Day and Blink 182.I like NOFX, The Dropkick Murphy's and AFI.I like the Dead Kennedy, and Bad Religion.I like Black Flag, Minor Threat and The Germs.I like Snapcase, Boy Sets Fire and Sick Of It All.
Occasionally we progress to:
I like Reversal of Man, Hot Water Music and Slayer.I like Dropdead, Born Against and Men's Recovery Project.
(this is where 99% of punks 'get off the boat' and become indie rock fags due to college.)
If they DON'T become indie rock fags (term used with the utmost kindness; I promise) it's will become:
I like Moss Icon, Current and Swing Kids, and eventually:I like Lightning Bolt, Ted Leo, Against Me and Orchid.
I'd love to see other versions of this chart related to people you guys know or see around you; this is what it seems most kids in New England go through in their punkness.
― Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
gygax! may be stupid, but I still love him.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, let's not forget about the kids who head off into the dead ends of the punker evolutionary tree: crust punks and rockbilly nerds
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Gotta reason she's not good? (Arguments invovled her AUTHENTICITY will be met with total disinterest).
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Classic or Dud?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― esquire1983 (esquire1983), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)
1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook. 3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.
The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.
-- The Jargon File
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)
Naga, since everyone is just being sarcastic and not actually addressing you: most of us know what emo is, and it's not "new," although the concept of it you're working from is. Emo goes way back to actual hardcore punk and then what was called "emo-core" (see Rites of Spring and Hated mentions above) -- there was then a period where it meant spazzy but more-indie stuff like Cap'n Jazz, after which it mutated into much more pop stuff like the Promise Ring or all those Nebraskan bands. Point being, the stuff you're talking about is like the sixth step in the progression of what people call "emo."
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)
Q. What is emo?A. grumble sigh www.fourfa.com
(Stencil, this couldn't possibly be a troll, could it? "Punk and emo suck" is just about the worst method of "trolling" ILM that I can think of.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
am i the only person who doesn't like rites of spring?
(the only fourfa page i like is the "hardcore emo" page)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
"Punk and emo suck" is just about the worst method of "trolling" ILM that I can think of.
Avril Lavinge threads?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
I am only lukewarm, I like Ignition much better.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
i only like a handful of rites of spring songs (they sound mostly like bad, middle-period hardcore)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)
(dieses groA e Foto des ruhigen Lebens durch Scott Bilby , der andere Abbildungen an seinem Aufstellungsort hat)
Dieser Aufstellungsort soll ein grundlegendes FAQ und eine ZA¼ ndkapsel auf dem emo sein -, das kurz ist fA¼r "emotionales.", Emo ist ein ausgedehnter Titel, der eine Menge unterschiedliche Arten des emotional-belasteten punkfelsens umfaA t. Dieser Aufstellungsort soll den Leser zu allen allgemeinen Arten vorstellen, sie musikalisch beschreiben und Ideen A¼ber die wesentlichen Aufzeichnungen aller jener Arten geben. Nach dem Ablesen dieses website Sie sind ein Experte im emo, in der weiten Richtung.
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
hi.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
I like the Dead KennedysI like Green Day and Sum41.I like the Sex Pistols and the Clash.I like NOFX, Bad Religion, and AFI.I like Black Flag and Minor Threat.I like System of a Down and Slayer.
Also, apparently at least as important as the music if not more so:
I like ranting about the evils of major labels, sellouts, and pop music. Also I pretend I live in a time before I was even BORN and go on and on about how evil Reagan is. (Bystanders are forced to take up aggressively pro-major-label, pro-sellout, pro-pop positions. The Reagan talk can be dealt with by eye-rolling.)
Also I do not like Rites of Spring but punk always disappointed me a little.
― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Translated back to English:what the pier with open-type screen in any event is emo?
Translated to German:was ist der Pier mit öffnen-Art Schirm auf jeden Fall emo?
Translated back to English:what is the jetty with kind of opening screen in any case emo?
Translated to Italian:che cosa è il molo con il genere di schermo di apertura in del emo di caso?
Translated back to English:which thing is the wharf with the kind of screen of opening in of the emo of case?
Translated to Portuguese:que coisa é o cais com o tipo da tela de abrir dentro do emo do caso?
Translated back to English:that thing is the wharf with the type of the screen to open inside of emo of the case?
Translated to Spanish:¿esa cosa es el embarcadero con el tipo de la pantalla a abrirse dentro del emo del caso?
Translated back to English:that thing is the wharf with the type of the screen to open itself within emo of the case?
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Right now I'm at the Black Flag stage. Interesting, I never once liked NOFX, AFI or the Dropkick Murphys.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)
and do you like it?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)
jonathan,i'm a weredolphin i have no 80085 or \/@9|n@! eeeeeeeeeeep!!!! i like in the forest ocean!
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)
do you do ave maria?
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)
hmm i never liked the major part of punk (i'm a post-punk junky if you havn't noticed) ;) although ther're some classic punk bands i like and listen to on a daily basis! here are some:BUZZCOCKSMINUTEMENcrassthe misfitshusker dubad brainzramones and other anti-boredom punkgreen day is probably the last punk band i liked
didn't cobain once describe Nirvana as punk? i think was underrating himself
i hope emo isn't buzzcocks and husker du coz i never touch anything called emo:(
― rex jr., Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― rex jr., Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)
but it only recognizes like half the characters...
?
― gygax!, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)
BYE!
(and thus hopefully closes the chapter on my horrible streak of posting errata and typ0z mistypes think0z and all that crap)
― gygax!, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax!, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― karl in california, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax!, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― rex jr., Wednesday, 26 February 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh, he's been there, done that.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
their name is "The Jealous Sound" and they're from Los Angeles. I thought there songs were somewhat sophisticated and I really enjoyed the singer's voice (there is a reason for this if you do a little research). i only wish that they poured on a little more of the screamo instead of laying back at about 70% so the chicks didn't get too scared.
check them out if you are interesed!
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 March 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sniper Obrien, Sunday, 4 January 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 4 January 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)
golly.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)
* = Possible exception: Robert Smith.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)
there is NO exception.he is not above the rule.
punk's long dead.emo's hot on the trail to find out who dun it.hopefully, emo will stumble over punk's corpse and rawk will turn around and open fire.
leaving pop as a witness, salsa as the 'getaway car' driver, and metal...well, metal's metal. and that's the way it goes.
― eedd, Monday, 5 January 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)
So as it is written, so shall it be sung.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 5 January 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― valie death, Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)