Sublime C/D?

IMHO, great fun band. Nothing too "groundbreaking" or "paradigm shifting" or anything, but some very good music those guys made.

"KRS-One" = best cutz EVAH!

Oh no no no. They're worthy of dying in and of themselves. ;-)

Bradley has obliged.

Classic, but that's because they are all Beatles and Beach Boy songs.

Woohoo!

Classic, but that's because they are all Beatles and Beach Boy songs.

With all the joy and life drained out of them.

Yes, but is it genuine, or is it in some bitterly and meaninglessly ironic Frank Zappa kind way?

Both Nowell's and Cobain's parents divorced during Nowell's and Cobain's respective childhoods, and both seem to have been greatly impacted by the breakdown of their parents' marriages. There has been speculation that both men suffered a lifelong guilt about the divorce of their parents.

lol child psychology 101

hmmmmmmm....

There was a New Yorker cartoon a while back called "The subtext of every tattoo," and it was a tattoo that read "Ask me about my parent's divorce."

Oh dear sweet Lord nooooooo:

SUBLIME WITH ROME
EXCLUSIVE SIX-DATE THEATER TOUR
BEGINS 4/20 AT HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM IN LOS ANGELES
TICKET PRE-SALES START MARCH 2nd!

Los Angeles, CA – February 25, 2010 – Founding members of Sublime, drummer Bud Gaugh and bass player Eric Wilson have announced after 14-years they will officially take to the stage once again; with new frontman, singer/guitarist Rome. Dubbed Sublime with Rome, the group will reintroduce themselves and Sublime’s music to fans across the country with an exclusive six-date intimate theater tour beginning 4/20/10 in Los Angeles at the Hollywood Palladium. Ticket presales for all shows begin March 2nd, please visit www.SublimeWithRome.com for details.

“To go back out on the road and play this music again is a gift. We want to celebrate the music and share the experience for not only our fans, but also for ourselves. It’s been 14-years and is long overdue,” said Gaugh.

Stated Wilson, “Many of our songs have never been performed live, most notably our self-titled release. Songs such as ‘April 26, 1992,’ ‘Under My Voodoo,’ ‘Burritos’ and even ‘What I Got’ will all get their proper stage debuts.”

“This tour will be full of surprises,” said Gaugh. “Sublime has never used a set list. We will be performing songs off every album and will mix it up from show to show, never delivering the same set twice. We’ve also been working on some new material and have put together a couple of songs with Rome. We’re excited to introduce them, and Rome, to all our fans.”

Rome, a 21-year-old northern California native, was introduced to Gaugh and Wilson in 2008. Last year, a handful of jam sessions led to an impromptu show at a small club in Nevada flooring a packed-house crowd. The trio later performed a one-off at the Smokeout Festival last fall and was a surprise special guest at the infamous KROQ Acoustic Christmas show, before officially announcing themselves as Sublime with Rome. Currently, the new hit single “Lay Me Down” by the Dirty Heads (co-written by and featuring Rome) is racing up the radio charts across the U.S.

Portions of the proceeds from the shows will go to benefit an addiction recovery program currently being developed to financially assist underprivileged teens and adolescents, in honor of Sublime’s fallen singer/songwriter Bradley Nowell, who succumbed to his own addiction when he passed away in May 1996.

“Sublime has so many fans and attracts new fans every year who were never able to see Sublime perform live after Bradley passed away,” said Troy Nowell-Holmes. “One of the inspirations for forming ‘Sublime with Rome’ was to bring Brad’s spirit in his music back to the fans and to give the new fans a glimpse of what it was like to see Sublime live.”

One of the most notable and successful ska-punk bands of all time, Sublime has sold over 17 million albums worldwide with the group’s music remaining in constant radio rotation across the country. Influential Los Angeles rock radio station KROQ has listed Sublime as the #3 act in their annual “biggest bands” list for the last six years in a row with the single “Date Rape” ranking as the all-time most requested song at the station. To this day, the group’s multi-platinum landmark debut album “40oz. to Freedom,” lo-fi follow up “Robbin’ the Hood,” and multi-platinum self-titled major label debut (a virtual greatest hits set in itself) are all widely regarded as music collection staples. Formed in Long Beach in 1988, Sublime’s final performance was in the spring of 1996.

Songs such as ‘April 26, 1992,’ ‘Under My Voodoo,’ ‘Burritos’ and even ‘What I Got’ will all get their proper stage debuts.”

FINALLY

somehow i spent an entire life not listening to sublime (i mean i guess i heard them in the background) and for some reason today i decided to try listening to a greatest hits album
this is fucking horrible

i have my reasons

can't believe all the ilx love for sublime early in this thread!

naga pampa was one of the perturbed Dave Matthews Band message board ambassadors from the DMB thread, iirc

otto von biz markie's piece in the ringer made me listen to sublime by sublime

gnna become a sublime guy, it's all i have left

Very enjoyable album. Is the hate wave over now?

twitter's jess harvell was very get-off-my-lawn that the teaser for the ringer piece used the word "masterpiece" lol

the piece is oddly written in places -- some inaccurate word choices in my sub editor's opinion -- but it kinda suits the overall very relaxed "fuck it i'm a surf-bum stoner" ethos

so

As someone who was never esp into them when they were relevant I enjoyed revisiting a few years back & discovering they had a kind of effortless synthesis (ok maybe a bit effortful if you think any co option of lingo is cringe) of a pretty wide ranging set of influences that honestly I admire. Also feels low stakes so idk why people got mad except of course for the sociocultural associations as per usual

Couldn’t dig into 4000 words though

Hated these guys in the moment even though I secretly kind of liked Santeria. Having lived through the phenomenon, I think a lot of issue was not the music but the fans, a bit like some people view the Grateful Dead.

Lyrics could be obnoxious but I always thought they were OK; pleasant when people put them on at parties bitd.

Robbin The Hood is a very siqq album of 4track tapes that I just jammed the other day. Better than the s/t.

I was about as big of a Sublime fan as you can be by the time Brad died. The self- titled was really disappointing to me.

say why

he posted abruptly

but i am interested

Sublime and 311 are the good and bad side of the same coin, respectively.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:53 PM bookmarkflaglink

the coin itself must be bad, then
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:04 PM bookmarkflaglink

I thought 40oz to freedom was the one ppl liked though, over sublime s/t

not me but s/t is the only one ive heard and i first heard it on saturday

I think I preferred 40oz and robbin the hood back in the late 90s when I was a teenage sublime fan. Which was rare in the Glasgow area. The s-t obv has all the hits.

say why

― mark s, Sunday, August 1, 2021 1:38 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he posted abruptly

― mark s, Sunday, August 1, 2021 1:38 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah sorry. I guess I could have backed that up further.

Opening up the CD case and seeing the naked clown picture was not a good first impression.

There are some shifts in the production style; what sounded very alive and raw and rich on 40 oz and Robbin the Hood sounds very sterile and clean and dry to me. The first two albums both had mix-tape vibes, where there were at least a few cool transitions between songs and medleys and shit like that. Self-titled is very much "here's a song. here's a song. here's a song. here's a song."

Basically all the songs that were eventually released as singles or received significant airplay, I hated off the bat.

Lincoln Highway Dub had been a personal favorite off of Robbin', and I thought its remake as Santeria lacked soul in comparison. And then I got to hear Santeria on the radio until, well, until I stopped listening to modern rock radio, partly because they were playing too much Santeria all the time. Not that I think the average radio listener would fuck with an instrumental 4-track demo like Lincoln Highway Dub, but I personally loved it.

Doin' Time and Caress Me Down both struck me as corny as fuck.

I don't think I would have considered myself a woke feminist at the time, but the descriptions of violence towards women on Santeria and Doin' Time were off-putting to me. Santeria: "I'd pop a cap in Sancho and I'd slap her down" Doin' Time: "I'd like to hold her head underwater." And then, of course, there's Wrong Way. I'm not sure off the top of my head if there were similar problematic lines in the earlier records, but I remember those really jumped out at me on first listen. I realize that Mary, off of Robbin', has the line "15 years old plus one/hotter than a microwave oven", but at the time I wasn't old enough to be troubled by that lyric.

And then, many of the songs that remained were just unmemorable to me. I'm looking them up now and it's like "okay, I remember this one, but I also remember never singing my lungs out to it with all my friends like we did to 40 oz to Freedom."

I feel all that hard. Was a huge stan of 40 oz and RTH (as you can see 18 years ago upthread) and st left me cold at the time. We can blame David Kahne who also made Fishbone sound sterile in the studio.

Ok, wow. that's the first time I made the David Kahne connection, but I really like those early Fishbone albums. I'm looking at this guys production discography and well, I guess the guy who produced Walk Like an Egyptian also produced Bonin' in the Boneyard. The more you know...