Shut Up & Dance 'Death Is Not The End' - C/D

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i've recorded it from tape and uploaded the whole damn thing (http://www.base58.com) - my comments there sort of sum up what i think about it, oh and i should be able to replace the poor quality mp3s with CD-ripped equivalents soon but download now if you're curious - would love to know what people think of it

its a strange album, lots of variation, as if PJ & Smiley were trying very hard to be taken seriously as musicians/artists - except the lyrics and rhyming are somewhat trite and silly a lot of the time. track 3 actually features Kevin Rowland on acoustic guitar and i just love the idea of him in the studio with SUAD...there's a weak ballad towards the end, a poppy rare groove track in the middle and a couple of Derrick May-esque techno numbers - all of which makes quite a unique little album from '92 when the rave scene had peaked.

anyway the main point of this thread is i want to know if anyone has the first SUAD album (with 'Derek Went Mad' on it) and also the Ragga Twins 'Reggae Owes Me Money' album cos i suspect they are both better than this one

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

the ragga twins album i can confirm is a flat-out zonked-out masterpiece; foresees (and surpasses?) yr so solids, yr roots m's, even (especially!) yr dizzy rascals. needs a proper reissue, as does "DINTE," preferably with the orig "Raving I'm Raving" version on it (I mean, Scooter have a version on their best of, so I can't think Marc Cohn would still be that pissed off about it 11 years down the line).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR TEN YEARS.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan as soon i uploaded i got an e-mail from someone in the States offering to send me a copy on CD! :)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

or were you talking about the Ragga Twins album? ulp..

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

No, SUAD. I knew of the Ragga Twins but didn't really follow up on them until a couple of years ago.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I burned this from vinyl just the other day. Sounds pretty good. So if you're on Soulseek at the same time as me...

Anyway, listening to it again for the first time in years... I think yes, this was their big shot at making a serious album with lots of different styles, proving their range etc... it doesn't quite come off more because of a few too many uninspired bleep tracks than acoustic guitar/ballad stuff... but about half of it holds up pretty well. Could have been a great single album, blah blah blah

I used to have Ragga Twins too but some bastard stole it from me years ago... but you can find most of that online too. It is really good, or rather the original 12 inches are really good... Spliffhead has some of the best bleeps ever (I was happy when that turned up briefly midway through Playgroup's Partymix...)

Ben Williams, Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i need the FIRST SUAD album tho...i'm only 75% sure there was one though, it wouldve had 'Lamborghini', '£10 To Get In', 'Dance Before The Police Come' (classic use of 'The Reflex') and 'Derek Went Mad' on it I figure - i checked out their website recently but cant remember the discography details (*goes there now...*)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

discogs.com has it :)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

hooligan 69 was good

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Blueski, what a good man you are. :-) I'll investigate this when I can.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda know Marc Cohn and I've always wanted to ask him what his feelings were now about the whole SUAD fiasco. But I'm chicken.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just listening to SUAD for the first time in ages and decided this thread must be a sign that I should finally emerge from my long time lurkage around these parts!

While I don't have either of the actual SUAD albums, I do have the record label compilation of early singles. Still sounds blinding too! It's got both £10 and £20 To Get In ("I thought it was £10 to get in?!" "Nah man, it's had a remix!" Classic!), Lamborghini, Change Soon Come, Derek Went Mad, Raps My Occupation and This Town Needs A Sheriff, alongside five tracks by Ragga Twins. If that wasn't enough, there's also the hard as nails, Prince sampling Fuck The Legal Stations by Rum & Black and a couple of early Nicolette tracks. (Does anyone out there have Now Is Early? Where is she now? I loved Let No-one Live...) In fact the only real duffer is the cover of Summer Breeze by Ade.

Oh yeah, I also have Reggae Owes Me Money on mp3 and can rip the comp. if anyone's interested.

simon rolls (simon r), Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

have Now Is Early (swoon) but never picked up Let No One Live... after listening to it a few times (and owning "No Government" and "We Never Know" on 12"). highly disappointed in her second album, especially after the promise of "Three" and "Sly", absolutely the best songs to grace any Massive Attack album (maybe exempting "Unfinished Sympathy"...).

still waiting on the female vocalist that delivers what I was hoping for there - finding some in Sia and probably the best tideover in Donna Dee's Spellbound.

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i like 'No Government' by Nicolette a lot

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

the first SUAD album...is that the one with them shirtless on the cover holding machetes or summat? I have that but haven't listened to it in a loooooong time. might see if i can find it.

now is early is velly nice.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

yes thats it Gaz, dig it out if you can!

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 February 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

dance before the police come! is a good dictum for life in general

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 28 February 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem, am not now at home and have ppl staying on weekend so might be too pizzled to dig in them crates. but i will, i will. will rip if you need.

also just realised not 3 months away i culled Black men unite. Please tell me it was no good.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 28 February 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)


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