Sig*r R*s = The Indie Genesis?

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So if there was a "Lite Indie" station to go with the "Lite Rock" station, who would be played? Who do they correspond to?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 28 February 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i think its indie + new-age + gothic rather than anything else

― rex jr., Friday, 28 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

XFM

― dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigur Ros is more like the indie Supertramp

― dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

young phil collins = guy who drummed on Brian Eno's seminal albums.

young peter gabriel = guy who ran around on stage in a sunflower costume singing about demons possessing his woman.

young jonsi = pretentious twit who rips off Brian Eno's seminal albums and the on-stage magnetism of a real sunflower.

both early genesis and present-day Sigur Ros = unlistenably precious twaddle. but early genesis at least gave us "i know what you like in your wardrobe" so they win!

― Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 28 February 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The important part is that they're unlistenable schlock for a particular music listening group.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 28 February 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice contradiction, that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 February 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Do they dress up as haemhorroids (sick.)?

― Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 28 February 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Wilco would get played.

The sad thing is that there actually is an emerging genre for this. Indie-Adult Contemporary.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

posting an impassioned anti-[artist x] rant on one or two or three [artist x] threads = possibly starting the ball rolling for fans of [artist x] to begin w/ earnest self-examination of WHY they like [artist x]

posting the same impassioned anti-[artist x] rant on seven or eight or nine [artist x] threads = possibly starting the ball rolling for fans of [artist x] to begin w/ examination of why YOU hate [artist x] so much

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean it's just so fucking boring and unbearably elitist and hilariously ironic when accusations of pretentiousness are reinforced with "haha also yeah it's just the kind of music that [demographic x] like to listen to"

either get over yourselves or USE OTHER THOUGHTS PLEASE lest this (fortieth) sigur ros hate thread becomes as useless and as predictable and as redundant as the very music that all you evidently self-styled 'revolutionaries' ("it is derivative" = most derivative discourse EVER) claim to be so steadfastly in opposition to

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Where does Robbie Williams fit in? The 'indie' Elton? Where 'indie' = pop, obv.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

sigur ros doesn't have an invisible touch in them

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooh, imagine what their equivalent of In The Living Years would sound like? Woudl the spin-off band that did it be called Jonsi & The Star Children?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

After last night, I've decided that Echoboy are the indie STYX. I like their albums, but live, they are the IDM U2. You are SKEEVE! A FEH to you!

― kate, Friday, 28 February 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the new Echoboy LP any good? I've got Plan 1 and like it moderately, but I seem to be seeing the new one on Recommended racks in all the record shops?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I think Shigoor Roess is much more like the indie-rock-friendly-version of Phish...gigantic epic jams, "what the fuck?" lyrics-or-lack-thereof, both's styles have been heavily influenced by psilocybin mushrooms, both have fans that use them as the yardstick to which all other acts are measured against, both have fans that smell bad, both bands I like tremendously yet can't go an entire day without being made fun of for being a fan of, etc.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahahahahaha! nickalicious likes Shuggar Ross and Fish!

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Who *gasp* would be the indie Marillion?!?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

So if there was a "Lite Indie" station to go with the "Lite Rock" station, who would be played?

Definitely Malkmus.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Who *gasp* would be the indie Marillion?!? [that's Marillion of Steve Hogarth era not fish era]

Elbow

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

proof that Sigur Ros get lumped in with prog rock artists:

The Green Dolphin Poll - 2002
http://gd.times.lv/gd11.htm

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

marillion are the indie marillion.

I like mark p's comments on this thread quite a lot.

I like sigur ros and genesis

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The Green Dolphin Poll - 2002
http://gd.times.lv/gd11.htm

I cannot take seriously any poll that places James "Why no, I don't have any testicles" LaBrie eleven places HIGHER than Mike fuckin Patton. This poll is pish posh!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

mansun are the indie marillion

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the new Echoboy LP any good?

Funny you should ask! I am literally listening to it right now, after having listened to the others earlier this week. I quite like it, it's the most upfront and 'brash' of his records so far -- not in some rockout sense, more in the general energy and how enjoyably catchy it is. "Comfort of the Hum" is perhaps one of the best songs about pylons ever. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 February 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

nah.
more like cocteau twins by way of low

― kephm, Saturday, 1 March 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The sad thing is that there actually is an emerging genre for this. Indie-Adult Contemporary.

I would listen to that station all the time. I love how adult contemporary and "today's country" are the two gaping black holes in the ILM pro pop universe.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 1 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"Is the new Echoboy LP any good?"

Yup i think its wicked, a bit like notwist in that it mixes nice indie-pop vocals with cool electronica.

― Mr Monket (apn99), Saturday, 1 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"today's country"

Most would rather not listen. As Chuck Eddy points out and agrees with you on, it's being ignored and written off by all sides (the alt-country crowd for not 'being country,' by a lot of pro-pop sides precisely because it is, aside from people like Shania Twain [in her case, T-shirts and Super Bowl get-ups aside, perhaps more because of the alternate album sound approach than anything else, metapop to the nth degree]). It's either too away-from-the-roots or too hidebound, there seems to be no or little middle ground to grasp at it with.

For my part I found the Dixie Chicks' cover of "Landslide" to be pretty damn great, the harmonies in particular. A couple of their other recent singles are quite good as well. Beyond that, I admit an ignorance that isn't entirely willful but isn't being corrected as well as I could.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 March 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

i saw echoboy yesterday opening for nada surf in frankfurt. quite weird. the first couple of songs were about the worst shite i have ever heard. a more annoying falsetto than anything i have ever heard in the genre including jonsi and thom plus a lot of cheap idm grooves. but after a while they got better. first they had a song which sounded so much like a flaming lips song that i couldn't believe my ears. and then the last two or three songs rocked quite hard and reminded me a lot of gallon drunk. the keyboards defined their sound. funniest thing was when i asked the singer afterwards which their biggest influence was (i had mentioned those two bands) he obviously took the piss out of me and said bob dylan.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe the singer wasn't joking or he also took the piss out of other people. where the link to bob dylan is in the echoboy stuff escapes my imagination though... from the amg:

Singer/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist Richard Warren is the driving force behind Echoboy, a psychedelic electronic project influenced by Bob Dylan, Television, Kraftwerk and the Chemical Brothers.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, he was in The Hybirds.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And and and and and Tim Delaughter choosing a Tripping Daisy album in his jukebox thing in X-Ray magazine this month and not mentioning that it#'s his old band, plus that chap from The Kills ; studiously ignoring your embarassing indie past so as to appear more cool now - classic or dud?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

HTML fuckup...

...plus that chap from The Kills using a stupid fake name so as to throw people off the fact that he used to be in Scaafo...

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh.

SCARFO

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

So, what I'm getting here is that I will love Sigur Ros. Thanks.

― Scaredy Cat, Friday, 25 July 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Less than Jake song sounds like Phil Collins backed with a generic ska-punk band.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the word generic needed anymore? *hides*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, no. Good point.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigur Ros is more like the indie Supertramp

indie Supertramp = Mercury Rev. But I've babbled about that before.

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

young jonsi = pretentious twit who rips off Brian Eno's seminal albums and the on-stage magnetism of a real sunflower.
you know, considering they pull this offperfectly live with a 4 person band and minimal equipment makes them a pretty amazing band in my book.
and for all of you who like to talk shit about early genesis, joey santiago is just a steve hackett wannabe on pot(not that i don't love him for it).

― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, ha, I went out and bought it and am listening to it right now. It is not what I hoped. It's okay, though. Really, the descriptions I read of "hopelandic" made it sound like it would be cooler. It's sort of annoying because it doesn't sound angelic. It sounds Japanese to me. Maybe it should sound Icelandic, but I'm not too familiar with what that sounds like.

― Scaredy cat (Natola), Friday, 25 July 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigur Ros are moderately great. But not as good as Talk Talk or Bark Psychosis.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 25 July 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigur Rós make some very beautiful music that can only be listened to in very limited circumstances.

And Genesis have had their moments, "Carpet Crawl" from Lamb Lies Down... springs to mind.

But they're not that alike, really.

― David A. (Davant), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

they're alike in that they both suck hippo balls

― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I need to get into Genesis. Suggestions on starting points?
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadyway?"
"Selling England By The Pound or whateverthisiscalled?"

P.S. I only Gabriel's 3rd solo album. Should I go out of my way to acquire others?

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess all I can say in Sigur Ros's defense, is having heard them completely independent of all hype, I generally loved them.

Live they were goofy and entertaining, but hurt my ears.

― David Allen, Saturday, 26 July 2003 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I completely missed all the hype. I usually do...

― Scaredy cat (Natola), Saturday, 26 July 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

sugar ross still sucks ... discuss!

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigur Ros doesn't suck. But comparing them to the best band (Genesis) that has ever been is a bit absurd anyway :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 23 October 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

but where are the lovely melodies in yer typical Sigur Ros "song," geir?

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

neither one can dance

― badgerminor (badgerminor), Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sugar Ross"

This looks like the name of an obscure P-Funk member.

― earlnash, Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

or a boxer - "sugaR ROSS WEnt down in the second round". I still like sigur ros a lot.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

sugar walls

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

itchy woo

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

earlnash: This looks like the name of an obscure P-Funk member.

norman: or a boxer

tad: or a reykjavik crack-ho!

― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 24 October 2003 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

barf

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

i take it that that post means that you don't like sigur ros, jon?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure even Genesis knew when to push 'Stop' on their fucking recording equipment.

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

Sigur Ros is more like the indie Supertramp
indie Supertramp = Mercury Rev. But I've babbled about that before

OTM. Sigur Ros are more like the indie Moody Blues.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

YES

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

Supertramp = Mercury Rev

Wow. OTM. Wow.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure even Genesis knew when to push 'Stop' on their fucking recording equipment.

However, if, after 10 minutes, they still had more brilliant ideas for constrasting parts of that particular work, then there was no reason to push "stop" yet.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

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