TS: Patti Smith vs Lux Interior

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Educators are good people, they show us things. Ppl shouldn't bag on them so much.

P Smith - "Hey suburbanites! All that weird shit that your friends who moved to NYC and went to college are into - it's not bad at all, honest! Come down to the city, we'll show you a good time w/a difference!"

L Interior - "Hey urbanites! You're always looking for the next weird decadent thrill to impress ppl with? Come out to the countryside, it's the most fucking bizarre shit you'll ever find, a lifetime supply of anecdotes for your urban parties! We'll show you a good time w/a difference!"

Another reason to treasure educators - nobody realises how hard the work they do is, when 99% of people don't give a fuck about them or anything they have to say, but they do it anyway, and give the other 1%'s lives just that little bit more possibility for having good time w/ difference, if it works out

― dave q, Saturday, 1 March 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh please. LUX!!!

Patti Smith is a humorless, barefoot hippie.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 1 March 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

P Smith - I like her voice, it's good. (Considering.) Should be a disclaimer in those herstories-of-rock things tho, instead of saying "good records by a poet" they should say "good records DESPITE her being a poet". Think of most poets and TRY to imagine them making a listenable record, and the scale of P's achievement is revealed.
The Cramps 'win' within the parameters of the q. tho, as they 'led me' to more stuff, and I suppose even they are warily resigned to the inevitable result (ie "I went out and bought all the originals, once I had 9,000 records from 1958 I realised I didn't need my Cramps ones anymore!") The Cramps were/are amazingly popular in Europe and South America because they overcame the handicap of being American by proving that Americans could pull off entirely artificial simulations of other ppl's culture just as good as the Stones could, so they didn't pique the defeated rest-of-the-world's fragile ego and honour and much as other US bands. (Note to war-torn ppls, if you could just GET OVER YRSELVES sometime there wouldn't be so much shit going on! So WHAT if somebody gave you a 'mad dog' look, or dissed your shoes, or made you sing the national anthem of the occupier while playing 'janitor' with your ID? Instead of flying off the handle and throwing a grenade just VISUALISE your inner calm, or imagine the other guy in their underwear, or count to ten or something. Or just grow the fuck up. I'm tired of turning on the TV every day just to see you've had another temper tantrum and blown up some building! Chill!) Whereas P Smith - never felt anything for that downtown shit, ever. (Esp 80s downtown shit. Oh hello Mr Arty Guy. You're looking a bit skinny, maybe you should eat more! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I don't give a fuck anymore. All you urbanites, live in fear of the day when I am elected as the Khmer Rouge candidate. And I'm not going to suck up to the culture/media establishment like Pol Pot did, that's for sure!)

― dave q, Saturday, 1 March 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I lied tho, the Cramps recs w/ B Gregory are worth keeping

― dave q, Saturday, 1 March 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the Cramps and have a lot to say about them as a band and as curators of American culture. Their look and sound will always say fun to me, fun in a million different ways. But discovering Patti Smith in junior high school changed my life forever.

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 1 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

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