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It seems that since punk all art rock has had some direct infulence from punk. What if there was no punk; would art school students still be forming bands? Would they be prog rock bands?

― David Allen, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

How does "brutal prog" work into your thesis?

― hstencil, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Think Electroclash - New Wave + Disco

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, and why did lydon own a pink floyd t-shirt in the first place!!!@#@@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz::thudd::

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

brutal prog = punk + magma

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Not to be snarky, but I didn't think "art rock" meant "rock bands formed by art students." I thought it meant rock bands aiming at turning rock into a form of "art music" (itself a slippery term). Actually I've always been somewhat fuzzy about the difference in definition between "progressive" and "art rock" and there does seem to be some overlap. But I would think an "art rock" band needn't aspire to virtuosity the way prog. bands typically do. This is very muddled. Where are the music critics to straighten me out? Art rock=take this seriously?

― A Music Consumer, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Would we have seen art 70's metal?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

there was funny thing i read recently in the keith levene interview in wire. he was the guitarist for PIL to those who don't know. it seems that, like keith, a bunch of the successful punks were a lot more into prog than they let on. it wasn't cool to admit that you had king crimson records in your collection, so you hid them.

― msp, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

(proto-)prog + (proto-)punk = Roxy Music!

― pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

yes

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Art rock in the UK used to pretty much mean art school rock i.e. bands who formed or at least met at art school. I dont know if any bands still do this.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

is it "repeat hoary old truisms and musical urban legends" month on ilm?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Oxes are descendents of art 70s metal.

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

What if there was no punk; would art school students still be forming bands? Would they be prog rock bands?

radiohead

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Prog = Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP (wrong-headed art rock) (bad).

Art rock = Velvet Underground, Stooges, Sex Pistols (good).

Roxy Music would seem to be the one overlapping junction.

― Burr, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I've heard Van Der Graff Generator described with both terms, as well.

― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems that since punk all art rock has had some direct infulence from punk.

Even Sigoooor R0s?

*confused*

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

There was something artsy about The Sex Pistols? I must have missed that.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:44 (twenty-three years ago)

There was something progressive about ELP? I must have missed that.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Justyn listen to "Toccata"!!!

― dave q, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:19 (twenty-three years ago)

the pixies were "art damaged"
and thats all that matters.

― kephm, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

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