Box Sets

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
I remember looking on the box-set as something only Q readers bought. A smug, pointless, expensive talisman of all that was wrong with music: 'adult', 'sophisticated, 'commercial'. 30+ year olds re-living their youth by *re-buying* their youth; wallowing in their youth and refusing to move on; to *keep up*.

"Reissue! Re-package!" raged Morrissey, once upon a time, and I agreed. What was the point of these cumbersome things? I mean, if you were *really* into the band, you would go out and collect the original albums, wouldn't you? And who needs all these un-released tracks, demo versions, live versions etc etc? It smacks of vinyl-sniffing nerdery. Did Sid die for this?

I now have four box-sets: 'Back to Mono' - Phil Spector; 'Lennon' - John Lennon; 'Heart & Soul' - Joy Division and '25 Years of Rough Trade Shops'.

I bought 'Back to Mono' as the best way of mopping up a heap of those fabulous Ronettes, Crystals, Darlene Love etc 60's songs in one go. 'Lennon' appeared the same time as my interest in The Beatles was peaking, and was a good way of having a solo career overview of the mad one without having to search for, pay for and plough through all those dodgy 70's Lennon albums. 'Heart & Soul' is an interesting one as I already had 'Unknown Pleasures'; 'Closer' and 'Substance' - pretty much everything I *needed*, I supposed. But... but... *all those tracks I don't have*! I drooled, reaching for my wallet... And as for '25 Years... ' Rough Trade: a beacon of Punk/Indie-pendent spirit that still casts light into the darkest corners today. The scruffy, dark-eyed orphan children of outsider-dom. Cabaret Voltaire. Throbbing Gristle. The Fall. Lee Perry. Cocteau Twins. Spacemen 3. Boards of Canada. Le Tigre. Together [at last!?] in a box of four compact discs. So... it's come to this. Anyway, I bought it; I loved it.

Ah well. Y'know.

So then, you got any box-sets? Whaddaya think of 'em? And so on...

DavidM, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Back to Mono. Everyone here has it. That's all.

Simon, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have a small collection of boxes:
Patti Smith box: released when they remastered all of the albums pre- Gone Again, and since I had never picked up the earlier albums before and I realized that it was a glaring omission in my collection, I grabbed it.
Cocteau Twins singles box: a bit of stuff not available on the albums, a lovely packaging job and a kollektor skum aura of kompletism. I still don't regret it.
Nuggets, both I and II: I just picked up the second collection yesterday, and both of these sets are money well-spent. You definitely couldn't collect all of this stuff outside the box unless you had lots of time and money. And hey, with a lot of these artists I don't have any particular desire to get all of their albums, so these collections are just fine.
Rough Trade Shops box: previously mentioned, I have a lot of this stuff already, but there are a number of neato tracks I don't, and the price was more or less right. So, yoink!
Wagner's Ring cycle, complete, by Solti: I figured that if I was going to do this one, I'd better do it right. It's overwhelming, but it's certainly all of a piece, and a lovely packaging job, too.
Galaxie 500 box: again, a glaring omission in my collection, and I had a credit at a store that had it, so mine it was. I am not sure I dig the new artwork in the box, but oh well.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh...the Stiff box, too. Originally bought it for a friend thinking they'd asked for it, but they didn't; and I ended up liking it enough to keep it!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Stax Complete Singles is a good box.

Curt, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like The Philly Sound 1966-1976: Kenny Gamble And Leon Huff.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I highly recommend The Buddah Box, a recap of songs issued from the Buddah label from 1965-1980. Covers a lot of ground, from '68 bubblegum pop to '71 Jesus-freakdom to '75 soul ballads; and the artists represented aren't of consistently high enough quality to warrant buying their original works.

Gazoo, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've got 3 : Pere Ubu - "Datapanik In The Year Zero" : ranging from most classic to sorta dull but always interesting VA - "1-2-3-4 Punk and New Wave" : all those lovely (and all those awful) songs in one little box - how lovely Can - Can Box : not really a box set at all in that it's only got 2 cds (but it does have a Book and a Video - both of which are much better than the cds)

philT, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh, i've gotten fairly hooked on box sets over the last few years. The Harry Smith Anthology of American Folk Music is a great one. Also the Island Records "Story of Jamaican Music". Rhino Records' "Beg Scream and Shout" R&B collection is darn stellar. The Okeh and King Records label comps of 40s & 50s R&B are great, too. As far as non- various artists boxes, I like some of the Bear Family country comps, though they tend to be very expensive. The Bonzo Dog Band "Cornology" collection is neat, petite, and fairly complete. The James Brown "Startime" set is very worthwhile, and introduced me to some of his very very good early 70s stuff. If you like satirical American comedy from the 1950s, the Remains of Tom Lehrer and the Stan Freberg box are well worth it. I guess I have not purchaed many box sets from "rock" bands....George Jones' The Spirit Of Country is notable if only because it includes the great "Yabba Dabba Doo, the King is gone, and so are you" tribute to both Elvis and Fred Flintstone...unbeatable drunken poetry, and I've never seen this song anywhere else.

pauls00, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, the differences btwn living in Brisbane and being able to afford box sets, and sydney, where I have to trade 5 review cds just to afford one unwound album. Enuf o that, here's the list: Billy Joel - Aus Tour Box - 5 cds, I was young, I hadn't discovered marc Almond John Lennon - Lennon - Hardly any yoko Velvet Underground - Peel Slowly JD - H&S - this and the above I miss so much. VA - Flesh, fangs & Filligree - Great title, great songs Dylan - Bootleg Series 1-3 - My intro to dylan through his finest hours Shirley Bassey - 3 cds, the best of, send in the clowns is all i say. Stereolab, Moby - 3cd boxes, but do they count? I think that's it, goddamn memory - one of these days i gotta move to a cheaper city. fucking aussie dollars lower than my ass at the moment, so that adds to the quandry.

Geoff, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I originally read that post as "Spacemen 3 have a box set" and instantly started salivating. Oh well.

I don't think I've ever *bought* a box set, though quite a few people have given them to me... Paul got me the Velvets box set for my birthday. A friend who works at EMI found me a spare copy of the Blur singles box set. And erm...

Oh yes!!! I bought the Nuggets box set, even though I already have almost all of the songs on it. And I lost the box and booklet when I moved. Poo! There's another one...? Oooh, this, I need.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Guilty by Randy Newman. Good selection of studio tracks (although too much from the 80s) plus interesting rarities and an informative booklet. A CD of film music, too, but that's a bit difficult to get into with only short excerpts from each score.

Old Friends by Simon & Garfunkel. A couple of excellent unreleased tracks (Blues Run The Game, live version of Overs) and a fairly interesting, if slightly gushy, booklet. A bit disappointing though because it leaves off just a couple of studio tracks (such as Big Bright Green Pleasure Machine) and only includes live versions of a few songs (like Overs). There's plenty of room on the CDs so it's a shame they didn't just put the whole lot on. I guess it's Paul trying to rewrite history a little (A Simple Desultory Philippic is left off). Plus, I bought the tall book-form version and then they brought out a smaller CD box with the same CDs for half the price.

Oh, does 2 1/2 Years by Elvis Costello count? The reissues of My Aim Is True, This Year's Model, Armed Forces and Live At The El Mocambo in one LP shaped box with a fairly crappy booklet of photos. Great music, shame about the show-off title.

John Davey, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have an R&S records 5lp box set. it isn't very good.

gareth, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I too have the Blur singles box, as a way of getting the early b- sides which I didn't have and a copy of Popscene to boot. Unfortunately, a lot of Blur's b-sides are crap.

Bill

Bill, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Only one I own is Datapanik In The Year Zero and I only bought that 'cos it was cheaper than getting Terminal Tower, The Modern Dance and Dub Housing on cd separately.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I got the "Pet Sounds" box a couple years ago just cause I wanted to hear the stereo version of the album so bad (I've always found the mono version a bit muddy. Turns out the stereo version sounds muddy in both ears). A silly waste of money, especially since the stereo album was released by itself a few years later. The vocals only version of "Wouldn't it Be Nice" was almost worth it, though.

Balrk, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surprised no-one's mentioned my favourite - maybe you're all too cool for the Springsteen Live 75-85 box, which is magical (yes, I've got Tracks as well). Also the folk world is reeling (ha) from the recent high-profile release of a 4CD Martin Carthy retrospective, which is lovely: it's themed rather than chronological.

christopher, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fie! Fie, Bill! Blur's b-sides are some of their most inventive work ever. Yes, even Rednecks and Alex's Song. Ha-hem.

My bassist got the Pet Sounds box set for Xmas, and we sat for most of Xmas day with our heads between the speakers listening to the Carol Kaye mixes. It was BRILLIANT.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I recommend the Antbox- never really an albums band, but this is a rather good collection of oddities. The b-side of 'Young Parisians' is most amusing, as is 'A.N.T.S.', their spirited re-working of 'Y.M.C.A.' (*sounds* a ghastly idea, I know...). I don't think I've actually listened to the disc which covers 86-00 yet, though!

Jamie, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm suprised more people don't have Peel Slowly and See.

JM, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Christopher: I HAVE THAT ONE!!

JM, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A few more not mentioned elsewhere:

'Beauty is a Rare Thing' - Ornette Coleman. Great pics (mostly by Lee Freidlander), useful notes, loads of rarities/unreleased takes, a lifetime's listening.

'The Wumme Years' - Faust. Bought because the first two albums are hard to find on CD - crappy cover.

'OHM' box - superb collection of early electronic music, with lots of material you simply cannot get elsewhere. Worth the price of admission just for the Richard Maxfield and LaMonte Young pieces.

'The Complete Columbia Studio Recordings' - Miles Davis Quintet '65-68. See the Ornette box above. More conceptually complete than the problematic 'Bitches' Brew' box.

'Biograph' - Bob Dylan. Long interview with Bob conducted by (shudder) Cameron Crowe, most of the hits, unexpected choices, rarities etc. The REAL 'Boss'.

Andrew L, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've got _Heart and Soul_, the Massive Attack singles collection, a 4- disc "Best of Rave" collection, a 4-disc "Best of Hardcore" collection, and the Def Jam 10-year anniversary thingy.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kate: I love Rednecks! And Garden Song (? Off Popscene), but admit it, some are howlers. And I'm surprised no one from Bowie's camp has sued for the strange resemblance of All My Life off Beetlebum to a certain song on Hunky Dory. But then, I decided today The Great Escape is my favourite Blur album, so I'm probably not in a position to comment judging by what everyone else thinks!

I want Peel Slowly and See, it's just I can never be bothered to buy it seeing as I have all the albums anyway. That Motown one would be nice as well, but can you get it in the UK?

Bill

Bill, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm not convinced about box sets, they seem a bit expensive, especially as you nearly always have a good few of the tracks already on the original albums. Also the main selling point is often *new* remastered versions that sound exactly the same anyway, or worse still, highlight the crapness of the old recordings. That said I *do* own two magnificent box sets in Led Zeppelin - The Studio Recordings and Syd Barrett - Crazy Diamond. Both are good examples of what box sets should be like, representative of the artists' work.

Add, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search : box sets by prolific artists with long careers (James Brown, Bo Diddley, Bob Dylan), boxes that adequately cover an entire genre (Anthology of American Folk Music, Tougher Than Tough (reggae), 30 Years of R&B).

Destroy : "complete recordings"-type boxes (*everybody* gets boring at one point or another), boxes by album-oriented artists with short careers.

Patrick, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Some more good'uns:

Lee Perry - Arkology Louis Armstrong - Hot Fives and Hot Sevens v/a - Doughboys, Playboys and Cowboys - The Golden Years of Western Swing

m jemmeson, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(in readable form this time i hope)

Some more good 'uns:

Lee Perry - Arkology

Louis Armstrong - Hot Fives and Hot Sevens

v/a - Doughboys, Playboys and Cowboys - The Golden Years of Western Swing

m jemmeson, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Glad to see someone mention the James Brown & Louis Armstrong boxes. I once had the VU & Pere Ubu boxes, but sold them to finance a disastruous trip to the UK. But I have Mr. Dynamite and Louis, along with the Rough Trade retrospective, the 1st Nuggets box, and the Poison Girls box. I've only heard one disc from the Poison Girls (the 1st one) - I hope the other 3 have something more to offer. And CD-R copies of the Magazine box & the Anthology of Folk Music - I'll buy the proper copies soon enough, don't you worry.

I like box sets, but it takes me forever to sit down & listen to them. And sequencing is very important. I really like the Velvet Underground & Pere Ubu, but the arrangement of the tracks really annoyed me. The VU albums were sandwiched in between demos & live recordings of varying quality - having to skip to track 4 to listen to, say, their 3rd album, was annoying. And the Pere Ubu box just threw as many tracks as they could on one CD, meaning it was hard to get an idea of what the latter albums sounded like, unless I took the time to change discs or record all the pertinent songs onto one tape. Annoying as all that.

A concept like _Nuggets_, though, is PERFECT box-set material.

David Raposa, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the kyuss 3 for 1 box set. you get 3 of their full lengths for like 20 bucks. unbelievable deal. i can't believe nobody has mentioned it yet.

ernest, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I own:
Sound and Vison by Bowie
The Lou Reed Box
Peel Slowly and see by the Velvets
The pet sounds box
a gospel country box
The abthology of american folk music
and wild and out of control , the dirty 50s R&B stuff

anthony, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You're our fact-checking bud

Andrew L, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Again - Nicky D, how do you manage to make your words go blue like that?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Merzbow has (or HAD - possibly gone by now) a 50 CD box set out. I know of 2 people with them. I've never met these 2 folks, though.

Kodanshi, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have Pere Ubu 'Datapanik In Year Zero' and David Thomas 'Monster' (both of which, at the time, was the only place to find those early albums on disc, so...wasn't just a "reclaiming of ones youth" type of thing).

Also, I have Brian Wilson (oh, I mean "Beach Boys") 'Pet Sounds Sessions' set. Just for the heck of it, basically. I already had 'Pet Sounds' on disc with both mono and stereo versions, but. I was enticed by the so-called "session" tapes (which, after the fact, found to be mostly untrue - the box set I was hoping for, to which this was said to be, was to have many more actual studio sessions - you know, with Brian talking and working things out with the band types of stuff - not just vocal or vocal-less tracks found on the actual released album, etc - only about 1/5 of the set is devoted to what I was looking for, 1/4 at best). The book (not booklet, it's an actual 100+ page books worth words just shrunken down to very small print - count the words per page if you doubt) that comes with the box set was worth at least $10 of the pricetag alone, so. Oh well. Plus, since I got it via A&E - a nifty little A&E 90 minute bio video was added for free (one of the better bio jobs on Brian, I might add).

Also, I have (not a box set, but) 'The Complete Works' of Edgard Varese. Steve Reich 'The Cave' (disappointment, for me). And some other near box set types of things.

So, I guess the only officially labeled box sets would be the two involving David Thomas and 'Pet Sounds'.

*on that note: I do have Captain Beefheart 'Grow Fins: rarities' set with me from the mighty library here in town - from which I'll cdr some stuff from, but. And will eventually get that Phil Spector 'Back To Mono' set to do a cdr hatchet job on from said library.

michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yea, I've taken the old cdr hatchet to that 'Ohm' box set (of early electronic music - some of which, though, actually can be found elsewhere - in that, i have two individual discs with some of the Columbia stuff, etc) and the Ornette Coleman 'Beauty Is A Rare Thing' set (I just lifted the albums 'Shape Of Jazz To Come' and 'Free Jazz' from it though). Again via the mighty local library (I sure do love a good library...and...my trusty cdr machine).

michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.