What album(s) do you want to see redone?
My nomination:The Buzzcocks, Singles Going Steady[/i] Some bass, please, just a little for the beat.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 9 March 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 9 March 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil turnbull (philT), Sunday, 9 March 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― mei (mei), Sunday, 9 March 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― rex jr., Sunday, 9 March 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Sunday, 9 March 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 9 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 9 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 9 March 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)
i nominate johnny thunders & the heartbreakers l.a.m.f.
― schnell schnell, Sunday, 9 March 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)
others:
The Rolling Stones - all the pre-Sticky Fingers stuff. The much-ballyhooed 2003 discs are a significant improvement over what used to be available, but they've been remixed. And a true stereo version of "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" is still unavailable (except on bootleg).
Beatles - everything
Disco Inferno - D.I. Go Pop! and the Five EPs. Why is it so friggin' hard to find Disco Inferno records? I can't find 'em on Ebay, I can't find 'em on amazon, I can't find 'em ANYWHERE! So thank God for mp3s!
The Who - The Who Sings "My Generation". Much like the recent Stones reissues, this one was remixed into stereo. If you ask me, a straight-up mono version would have been a better idea.
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed. There have been at least three different CD remastering jobs on this one, and they've all been awful. Get this one on vinyl.
Buckner and Garcia - Pac Man Fever. Because Jerry Buckner and Gary Garcia don't own the rights to the greatest novelty album ever made, they've been forced to re-record the whole thing.
? and the Mysterians - 96 Tears. This one has something to do with the fact that ? recorded for Cameo/Parkway, who is now owned by everyone's favorite human scum, the greedy Allen Klein, and Klein for some reason refuses to release any Cameo/Parkway recordings (This also includes Dee Dee Sharp's "Mashed Potato Time", Chubby Checker's "The Twist", and a lot others I can't think of right now.). Tosser.
― Evan (Evan), Sunday, 9 March 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)
The only thing I hate about that record is that anyone who doesn't know anything about hip hop always nominates it as their all time favorite rap record. It's to the 90s what The Roots is to the 'oughts
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 9 March 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)
There would have been place for both, instead of all those pointless R&B covers. I always prefer stereo, but as the album was originally only available in mono, I can understand why mono fans are in rage.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeff K (jeff k), Sunday, 9 March 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― xnelio xx (xnelio), Monday, 10 March 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― svend, Monday, 10 March 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)
My offer to burn a CDR with the five EPs for anyone who asks still stands.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― tom (alternate), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually - yeah what is the story w/ this? Ever since I've owned it I've wondered if I bought a "clean" version, because there are definitely censored words on it... but there are also some swears. I never bothered to ask around about it - what's the deal?
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― rex jr., Monday, 10 March 2003 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― kevin brady (groeuvre), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Triple ditto on Riot.
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)
REmastering takes records that were done poorly - or with limited technology - and 'cleans them up' - for better or worse.
A lot of times, it's like a comfortable spot in your attic where you like to sit, and one day, someone puts in a higher wattage light bulb and you notice all the dead bugs and decaying wood. You don't like to sit there as much any more, lights or no lights.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― kevin brady (groeuvre), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)
The best suggestion I have for you, or ANYBODY interested in ANY aspect of music-making, recording or otherwise, is get a subscription to Tape Op (it's FREE)- it's the most valuable resource I can think of
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Are you saying this because you haven't heard / aren't aware of L.A.M.F. Revisited or because you don't rate it? I always suspected that there was a great album lurking somewhere beneath the awful mixing / mastering even of the original vinyl; but .... Revisited was still a revelation.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 10 March 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)
i say ultramagnetic mcs - funk your head up
― zemko (bob), Monday, 10 March 2003 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― schnell schnell, Monday, 10 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)
"The Lost '77 Mixes" essentially recreates the original album using the best of these "alternate takes" and is quite stunning; if L.A.M.F. had sounded like this when it first came out I think a lot of things things would have been very different....
I haven't heard "L.A.M.F. Revisited" but I understand it's simply a re-mastered version of the original album and inferior to "The Lost '77 Mixes".
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rob M (Rob M), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 26 June 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 June 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 26 June 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Have any of the Grace Jones albums been remastered? I haven't heard it on vinyl, but Slave to the Rhythm especially sounds like it's missing something in the low end. And her last two albums should be reissued simply because they're very hard to find. I've only managed to find an used copy of Bulletproof Heart, which is great (and actually sounds very good for an '89 CD, so no remastering needed there).
― Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)
i think most of the new order albums sound fine as they are and don't need any remastering
Agree. And no wonder considering they were all 24 bit remastered just a few years ago.
walk across the rooftops (blue nile) doesn't need remastering either
It sure needs some compression to turn up the volume.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)
'spirit of eden'
i want a sound that really fucking punches you in the solar plexus.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
"Spirit Of Eden" has already been remastered.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)
Bulletproof Heart by Grace Jones is great? Tell me more Tuomas. What other late-period stuff by her is good?
― pisces, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)
Other than "Bad Girls" (excellent package!), Donna Summer's 70s catalogue is either outdated old editions or - as in the case of "I Remember Yesterday", one of her best albums - not available at all. Universal should really go ahead and do a proper reissue/remaster job on everything from "Love To Love You Baby" through "Once Upon a Time".
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 January 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)
Anyone know what the holdup is on the Disintegration remaster?
― turkey, Friday, 18 January 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)
'Shazam'
― our work is never over, Friday, 18 January 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)
Wait, apparently it was already remastered. Dunno if it was any good though.
― our work is never over, Friday, 18 January 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)
You mean "Shazam" by The Move?
Has been remastered several times, I think. I haven't heard the recent one, but the recent one of "The Move" is ace.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)
According to this thread the last batch ("Disintegration", "Mixed Up" and "Wish") will be released sometime in 2008. Hopefully in not too long then.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
The first two TASTE albums.
― Russell, Friday, 18 January 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)
heh. some of blue oyster cult's lost classics, such as mirrors and cultosaurus erectus and club ninja...plus has anyone ever heard imaginos? how is it?
― Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:04 (seventeen years ago)
New Day Rising
― Saxby D. Elder, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)
>>plus has anyone ever heard imaginos? how is it?
It has it's moments. First side is fairly strong. Ya takes yer chances the rest of the way. "The Seige and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria" works because of the over-the-top guest vocal by Joey Cerisano who had a considerably better voice than Buck Dharma and Eric Bloom. He was big in Jersey bar bands and is on a Silver Condor record I have, a not bad but not great slice of mid-Eighties guitar rock. "Del Rio's Song" is another thing from that sounds akin to many of the poppier things BOC liked to do.
I have a CD copy of it but they seem rare. Or were the last time I looked. I actually interviewed Buck Dharma for CREEM magazine at the time of the release of Imaginos. It wasn't a bad record but no one, including the record label, was very enthusiastic about it. It was a different time, BOC were old hat. When I was at Columbia for the interview they were pumping Britny Fox and a said to be upcoming just-signed artist from my neck of the woods in PA, Tommy Conwell, hard. So that was the zeitgeist.
― Gorge, Sunday, 20 January 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)
Bobby Darin - That's All
Apparently the current CD version has terrible sound.
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 May 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
the rest of the Dylan catalogue, particularly New Morning, Self-Portrait, Before The Flood and The Basement Tapes
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 1 May 2008 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
So whatever happened to that Union Carbide Productions box that was supposed to come out?
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 May 2008 06:15 (seventeen years ago)
Lots and lots of Warner titles. Warner Music are way behind the others as far as remastering goes.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 2 May 2008 12:01 (seventeen years ago)
I was just noticing that the Squeeze box set sounds awful.
Guess it will be a while before they remaster that.
All of the über-dB remasters of recent years need to be redone.
It isn't about being the loudest disc in the carousel anymore, is it.
The album I would most like to see remastered is the one some guy is just finishing as I write this.
― Saxby D. Elder, Friday, 2 May 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)
"Argybargy" was just released in a deluxe edition, although I haven't heard it.
I think the main problem about the Squeeze albums is they were badly mixed, so for them to sound better one would need new mixes, not just new remasters. Elvis Costello's production on "East Side Story" is worst of all - grainy, way too much bass (just listen to "Labelled With Love") and with the vocals mixed way too low in the mix.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
Before that happens, though, producers of mp3 players and portable CDs have to realize that you cannot protect people's hearing from THE LOUDEST ALBUMS EVER MADE, as then it is impossible to turn the volume of more reasonably mastered albums up loud enough.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
For instance, I understand very well why Donald Fagen and Gary Katz didn't want the new remaster of "The Nightfly" to be any louder than the original (those guys know a thing or two about audio and hi-fi). But I still regret not being able to turn it up loud enough on my portable.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)
I never understood why Warner stopped with "Tusk" when they remastered the Fleetwood Mac catalogue. At least they should have given the job to "Mirage" and the excellent "Tango In The Night" too. The latter is easily my favourite album by them.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 11:33 (seventeen years ago)
We've discussed it on a Prince thread but yeah, all pre-90s Prince should be remastered. It's a shame such great albums sound so bad. I thought it was due to legal issues between prince and warner but as someone rightly said (I think it was Tuomas), some of his tracks have been remastered on the ultimate compilation, so... and about the beatles, following the remastering work done on "love" (not talking about the remixing part), I'd definitely buy all the albums again should they be remastered the same way.
― AleXTC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)
Some unexplainable questions: Why they they remaster only "Secret Of Association" and "Wonderland" by Paul Young while his oldest, "NO Parlez", remains unremastered?
Why did they remaster every single Jackson Browne album from the 70s or 80s apart from his second album, "For Everyman"?
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 18:49 (seventeen years ago)
Ashlee Simpson - Autobiography
some dope songs but it's louderized to death
― abanana, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)
speaking of such things, the uk double cd deluxe version of amy winehouse's 'back in black' has the brickwall loudness FIXED (on the album proper, but not on the bonus tracks on the second disc). it might be a mistake but it sounds 100 times better than the normal release.
― akm, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)
It is called "Back To Black" though. :)
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
oh right, i just call it the 'amy winehouse album'.
― akm, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)
boredoms "wow2" is way too quiet. needs to be louderized.
also, metal box/second edt. i think it's already been remastered, but i still can't feel the bass like i should be able to.
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
do you have the UK or US version of metal box? I have the one in the metal box and it sounds pretty good, better than the US version I used to have
― akm, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:31 (seventeen years ago)
i have mp3's
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)
Albums that need to be re-mastered in the worst way
Thinking of what I didn't already mention in the thread above. Ooh, I know, all the Tim Buckley albums! Also 80s R.E.M. Early U2 and Metallica remasters are due soon I think. The vinyl Metallica are out now. Are the Joy Division remasters different from the box set? I never got around to the Nick Drake remasters, as the originals sound fine to me. Anyone compare them?
Weren't Beatles remasters/reissues supposed to come out over a year ago? And Public Enemy? Anyone know what happened with that? How about Astral Weeks & Moondance?
Who's been remastered the most? I'd say the early Elvis Costello albums are on their fifth life.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
Bowie probably gives Elvis Costello a run for that. At least pretty close to:
80s: RCA releases back catalogue unremastered on CD for the first time 1990: EMI America with first batch of remasters 1993?: New batch of remasters as Rykodisc takes over the rights to his back catalogue for a while 1999: Back on EMI America. New remasters that - it must be added - sound remarkably better than the previous ones Oughties: Various of his 70s albums re-released (and remastered) in new 2CD deluxe editions. (Limited Edition, I believe, as most of them are not available anymore by now)
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
the joy division remasters are completely different from the box set. they actually sound radically different; they're louder on the whole. I know some people really hate them; I think they're good, but a few tracks on still sound wrong to me. I kept the box set, anyway.
I've never bothered with nick drake remasters either, the hannibal/rykos sound fine. in fact I've heard the sacd/remixes sound bad.
― akm, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)
The loudness may sometimes be exaggerated, but I kind of like recent remasters for one thing: The late 80s/early 90s trend of narrow stereo is gone, and those classic albums are now again in truly wide stereo, as they were usually released back in the 60s or 70s.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
Don't know why my link to the alternate thread didn't work. Albums that need to be re-mastered in the worst way
Also, Reissues Thread 2008 Reissues Thread 2008
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)
I'd like the see the (Natalie-era) 10,000 Maniacs albums remastered... the band is in that (sizable) tranche of CD-era acts whose albums have always remained in print, yet aren't popular enough to justify deluxe reissues (and I suppose never will at this point). Sadly, CDs from that era don't sound very good to me now.
I'm surprised the first few Strokes albums never got expanded anniversary reissues (e.g., The Modern Age + Is This It? in a single, remastered package).
The first Elastica album is one more that I never thought sounded very good to begin with (even though the songs are great), and which may benefit from a remaster.
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 25 November 2023 23:17 (two years ago)
Ocean Rain, possibly remixed even, because it is a dog's fucking breakfast.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 25 November 2023 23:40 (two years ago)
morris, we should talk maniacs sometime. i have thoughts about robert buck's guitar playing.
(also i will defend natalie's first few albums and yeah- remaster the old stuff dammit!)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 01:38 (two years ago)
also maybe this is more appropriate for a proper maniacs topic, the rem revive lately got me thinking-- joe boyd produced their fables album and the manics' wishing chair the same year. ts?
(can you imagine a really good remaster job on "tension makes a tangle"? let the robert buck reappraisal begin!)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 02:04 (two years ago)
I didn’t realize Boyd produced The Wishing Chair… that’s interesting!
― This field is required (morrisp), Sunday, 26 November 2023 02:22 (two years ago)
everyone go revisit wishing chair. it's really good.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 02:56 (two years ago)
(and it sounds nothing like fables. i see you, haters.)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 02:58 (two years ago)
(in terms of production. of course they're both jangle bands, so i mean. wishing chair is iridescent in comparison. remaster it!)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 02:59 (two years ago)
also morris-i didn’t know this existed until right now. 2004 remastering, huh.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 03:02 (two years ago)
Classic old thread: LAY OFF NATALIE MERCHANT (Do Not Read If U Hate Old ILX)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 November 2023 04:04 (two years ago)
xp That is interesting! I’ve read about that comp, but didn’t realize the album tracks were remastered. Maybe I’ll check it out, even if it doesn’t quite “get all the way there.” Great find, thx
― This field is required (morrisp), Sunday, 26 November 2023 04:08 (two years ago)
oh yes, grisso. i've aired my grievances, while still defending her. i know it's not "cool" music and she's... ugh, nah i'm not gonna do this here. but i can't argue with my heart and she's got some jams.
anyway.
(gonna fall asleep to motherland tonight. what a nice album.)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 26 November 2023 06:27 (two years ago)