Asia's "Heat Of The Moment" vs. Asia's "Only Time Will Tell"

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Two songs which seem, at least by their titles, diametrically opposed. Both appear on the s/t debut. "Heat of the Moment" was the bigger hit, but I am partial to "Only Time Will Tell" with it's Journey-esque spoken-sung interlude "You're leaving now... etc."

Both sound ridiculous when I try and play them at a night-club, especially "Time" because, like many a Perm Band track, it is so grandiose. [Perm Rock being the term for Loverboy, Foreigner, 38 Special, REO, etc].

Regardless, it is such a huge record I believe I need to get behind one of these two songs [and don't say "Africa," that was Toto, not Asia!].

Which one should it be?

david day (winslow), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to cite "Soul Survivor," but between these two, I'm totally going with "Only Time Will Tell," if only for the line....

"...the brightest ring around the room, YOU TALK OF WHEN I DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

that is a good part.

david day (winslow), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

You can't beat:

"And now you find yourself in ay-tee-too"

Put me down for "Heat."

TMFTML (TMFTML), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I like "Soul Survivor" best. "Heat of the moment" from the two mentioned. Asia's first album is great.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"The disco hotspots hold no charms for you"

Heat it is.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I prefer "Heat Of The Moment". Anyway, I would say Asia were among the better of 80s AOR acts, still sticking very much to their prog roots and not adding all those metal elements that 80s AOR acts tended to replace the prog elements in early AOR with.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I love that first ASIA album.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a solid record through and through. Much like the s/t Christopher Cross debut. Lavish production, pointed songwriting, etc. When does that make a comeback, I wonder? Probably never.

[Although 'N Sync did cover "Sailing" at the end of their final CD].

david day (winslow), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a solid record through and through. Much like the s/t Christopher Cross debut. Lavish production, pointed songwriting, etc. When does that make a comeback, I wonder? Probably never.

AOR is still alive and kicking. But while 70s AOR had a lot of prog in it, and 80s AOR had a lot of metal in it, today's AOR has a lot of "alternative" rock in it. Think Dave Matthews Band, Third Eye Blind, Matchbox 20, Counting Crows, Hootie & The Blowfish...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Ack.

david day (winslow), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It's gotta be "Heat Of the Moment." I still think that's a good, coverable song.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I keep thinking I've given up absolutes, I'm able to find value in all the wonderful diverse perspectives of the rainbow, etc. etc. And then someone has to go and try to rehabilitate Asia. We stab it with our steely knives, but we just can't kill the beast....

Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gypsy Soul" from the 'Over the Top' soundtrack. Wetton meets Moroder!

dave q, Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I wrote this four years ago (to the day) on alt.music.alternative:


> :On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Michael Daddino wrote:

> Cultural Artifact of the Moment: Asia, "Heat of the Moment" (From a
> poorly done MP3. I wish the rhythm section wasn't so damned leaden, > but this is great pomp, especially with those shameless Spectory > > drum beats.)

The leaden qualities of Asia's rhythm section is actually a perverse
pleasure of mine. Anyways, their other hits were better. :)
While I'm at it, a personal observation: it kind of amuses me when people get absolutely indignant and shit on Asia at every available opportunity yet love The Beatles, since when you get to the core of Asia's best songs (and, admittedly, they did put out a lot of crap as well, even in their heyday), they are clearly modelled on post-A HARD DAY'S NIGHT era McCartney.

Go put on "Don't Cry," "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes," "Midnight Sun," or "One Step Closer," close your eyes, and picture Sir Paul singing this stuff back in 1965 and I guarantee you'll realize it's hardly a stretch.

Which is scarier, that I would write that in the first place, or that four years later (while admittedly way over-the-top in delivery) I still feel more or less the same way? Still love "Don't Cry" and "Midnight Sun", BTW; great tunes.

To answer the question, I'd cast my vote for "Only Time Will Tell"--sublime. That fade-out with "you were just using me/and there is no one you can use now...". oh yeah.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I want Dave Q's record collection!

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Y'ain't gettin' the 'OTT' soundtrack man. Side 1 track 1 is credited to 'Van Halen/Hagar/Moroder'. This one's stayin' right here.

dave q, Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that the "winner takes it all, loser takes a fall" song? (I remember it from the movie; sounded like Hagar singing it)...you put those three together and they couldn't come up with something better than a weak "Eye of the Tiger" ripoff? If only Eddie and Giorgio met about 10 years earlier! (Of course, Sammy and Giorgio meeting 15 years earlier would've been EVEN better -- see "Space Station Number 5" and start dreaming).

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 13 March 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, that line is 'the brightest ring around the moon/will darken when I die', and the weird thing is that it was originally used (verbatim) in one of the Wetton songs on Family's _Fearless_ album (ca. '72). I think we can safely assume that Wetton thought it was a good line.

Jeff Wright, Friday, 14 March 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

the brightest ring around the moon/will darken when I die

Fuck, really? I've been wrong all these damn years?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The symphonic keyboards are what makes it for me. OTWT

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 14 March 2003 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I never thought I'd see you
standing there with him
(OOOOH)
so don't come crawling
back to me.....

Joe (Joe), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
What, no mention of the immortal "Cutting It Fine"?

As for the topic at hand (ok, a year too late), "Only Time Will Tell" lords its nutsack-kicking trumpet synth line over "Heat of the Moment". Did anyone else think at the time that this song with the line "And now you find yourself in '82" was actually released in late '81?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 16 April 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Heat of the Moment's use in South Park does it for me.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 16 April 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I must admit that "Heat of the Moment" is a rather nifty pop song, after hearing it over the end-credits to "40-year-old Virgin": it struck me as rather akin to the Style Council's approximated soul-pop music. Nicely tinpot synth line, must concur.

Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Agreed, 40YOV's deployment of "Heat of the Moment" was awesome.

But let us not forget the drama of OTWT's chorus:

NOW!
As sure as the sun will cross the sky,
This lie is over

LOST!
Like the tears that used to tide
Me over!!! (over, Over, OH-ho-ver!)

Did anyone notice, btw, what an utterly horrible guitarist Asia turned Steve Howe into? It's almost like he was replaced by a studio musician...

Also, big props to the melodrama of "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes" from the second record -- I think Wetton actually lisps in it...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

That is an awesome chorus. I like both of these songs.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I always liked "Don't Cry" since it sounded like it could've originally been a Phil Spector girl-group song.

This one remains my favorite Asia thread: How Much Money Would It Take For You To Listen To All These Asia Albums?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Let's not forget the stem cell episode of South Park where Cartman sings HotM in congress...

Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I still consider Cartman's "Come Sail Away" to be his shining moment!

Two OK songs, but pseudo-Spector/"Be My Baby" drum intros >>>>>>>>> ghastly pseudo-proto-"The Final Countdown" synth-fanfare intros, so "Heat Of The Moment" takes it. I do prefer the "Only Time Will Tell" chorus. And "Don't Cry" beats' em both.

Incidentally, regarding that Asia debut:

1. Heat of the Moment 3:54
2. Only Time Will Tell 4:48
3. Sole Survivor 4:52
4. One Step Closer 4:18
5. Time Again 4:47
6. Wildest Dreams 5:11
7. Without You 5:07
8. Cutting It Fine 5:40
9. Here Comes the Feeling

Has ANY album ever featured as many utter clichés as song titles?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

"Has ANY album ever featured as many utter clichés as song titles?"

Oh man. That question should belong in its own awesome thread.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

"Has ANY album ever featured as many utter clichés as song titles?"
Oh man. That question should belong in its own awesome thread


Indeed it does. And when somebody makes it, this will be tough to top:

Bryan Adams: Into The Fire

1. Heat of the Night
2. Into the Fire
3. Victim of Love
4. Another Day
5. Native Son
6. Only the Strong Survive
7. Rebel
8. Rememberance Day
9. Hearts on Fire
10. Home Again

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

But you can't forget:

1 Let It Rock
2 You Give Love a Bad Name
3 Livin' on a Prayer
4 Social Disease
5 Wanted Dead or Alive
6 Raise Your Hands
7 Without Love
8 I'd Die for You
9 Never Say Goodbye
10 Wild in the Streets

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH.

Anyway.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I love that synth fanfare intro to "Only Time Will Tell!" My daughter this toy keyboard that has that sound on it and I was playing that riff on it last night, inspired by this thread.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

insert "has" betweent "daughter' and "this"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Geoff Downes loved that sound -- it's also featured on the coda to Yes's "Does It Really Happen?"

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Stevie Winwood, comeback era, is the king of cliche title singles. "Back in the High Life," etc.

Arc (of a Diver), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Matt, I've still got the shirt from the '82 tour. Bidding starts at. . .

Re: Howe: from the interviews published at the time, I recall the idea was to de-emphasize the members' individual skills and go for a radio-friendly, mass-appeal sound. That said, Howe did do a brief solo acoustic spot at the show I saw.

Pomp-rock fans are directed post-haste to 'Lay Down Your Guns' and 'Who Will Stop the Rain' from the John Payne-era _Aqua_ (or was it _Aria_??)

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Re: Howe: from the interviews published at the time, I recall the idea was to de-emphasize the members' individual skills and go for a radio-friendly, mass-appeal sound.

Well, mission accomplished!

BTW, I'll never forget when MTV was airing a concert special on these guys (playing in Asia, I believe). And when I saw their new frontman, I was like, "Who's that fat tub of shit?"

Only later did I learn that fat tub of shit? None other than Greg Lake.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I still have an audio tape of that show around somewhere. IIRC, Wetton bailed on the band after all the contracts were signed for the MTV broadcast and the band stood to lose a huge payday if they blew the gig, so Lake was drafted in on a couple weeks' notice. Don't look for that one on DVD anytime soon.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

...and then of course, he came back! For another 712 albums! And counting!

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Actually I think he's been replaced by this John Payne guy hasn't he? Though maybe he's come back for various reunions.

All their "Live In..." album covers remind me of Mystery Science Theater 3000. They also misspelled "Massachusetts" on their latest...

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg300/g362/g36252gux2w.jpg

quality does not equal quality (wetmink), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Between Downes/Asia and Wetton solo, I think there's been a live album released from every industrialized-world metro area with over 50,000 population.

Yeah, I think that MTV show might have been the only gig Lake played with Asia. Wetton was back for the third LP _Astra_ (the one with the guitarist from Krokus (!!!)) but was gone again soon afterwards.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
if "heat of the moment" is good enough for cartman, then it is good enough for me!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

Still going with "Only Time will Tell," despite my lyrical flummox.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

Asia vs. Asia = EVERYONE LOSES

christ, get some Europe or America into this thread ASAP

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

or "Africa," for that matter.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

nineteen years pass...

teh video for Heat of the Moment is annoying and bad

Minty Gum (Latham Green), Wednesday, 27 August 2025 19:20 (one week ago)

Did you find yourself in '82 while watching it?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 19:25 (one week ago)

I said it before on ilm but Carl Palmer's drumming speeds up considerably into the choruses of Heat of the Moment, really annoys me. Enrages me in fact, he's such a bad drummer.

7/10, another solid effort from the willard grant conspiracy (Matt #2), Wednesday, 27 August 2025 19:56 (one week ago)

Oh that disco hotspot Ned....

Minty Gum (Latham Green), Thursday, 28 August 2025 20:28 (one week ago)


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