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are there more tunes like john coltrane's 'India' I've had a listen to eric dolphy but its not the same feel? any ideas????

mike, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe be more specific abt what it is you like abt "india" — cuz there's a hundred other Coltrane things, for example (which others will better clue you to).

Love your thread-title concept.

mark s, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was guessing it was the "eastern" sound.

Josh, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

if it's the "eastern" sound, one could always listen to some eastern music. check out the "indian music" thread. which reminds me that i forgot to mention kadri gopalnath in that thread. he has adapted the saxophone to karnatak music very thoroughly and effectively.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I suppose you might try some other Coltrane, too. Not quite the same feel but stuff like "Favorite Things," "Greensleeves," and "Ole" feel more like "India" to me than other Coltrane classix like "Chasin' the Trane" or "Wise One".

Also, I know you said Dolphy's not quite the same feel, but he did get around a lot - I heard Ornette's "Free Jazz" today, at first thought it was Dolphy with Mingus or something, had forgotten that Dolphy appeared on that recording. It sounded a bit more like "India" at times, probably because it's kind of droney.

Josh, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is there not a fellow called Charles Lloyd? (Why am I talking like "Last Days of the Raj"?) Mike, say here what you emailed me: since you already seem to know yr way round the Coltranes... Then you won't just get told stuff you know about.

mark s, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mike - I'd suggest maybe giving some of the early Pharoah Sanders albs on Impulse a go. Similar blend of 'Eastern' percussions with blurting free sax skronk; 'Tauhid' esp. noteworthy for the appearance of guitarist Sonny Sharrock, sounding in places uncannily like the Velvets from around the same period (1966).

Charles Lloyd of course an early Coltrane copyist, and poss. the jazz musician who inspired Miles Davis to grab some of that hippy Fillmore action. Lloyd had Keith Jarrett on piano in one of his early trios, but never head anything by 'em that really blew my mind. Some of the recent(ish) Lloyd albs on ECM are plesant enough in that freeze-dried Manfred Eicher way - esp. when Bobo Stenson does his best McCoy Tyner impersonation - but again they're a bit bloodless for my tastes.

Andrew L, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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