Roy Harper S/D?

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i picked up 'when the cricketer leaves his crease' last weekend for $4 and i like it so far. i've read some of the reviews on allmusic guide - harper definitely seems to be a weird, 'cult' artist. are any of you people in the cult?

j fail (cenotaph), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Hats are off to him!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Serious answer: I like him quite a bit. I've got his first .. five? albums I think. Everything up to Stormcock, anyway. I'd have to refresh my memory a bit to post further, as the later ones at least I haven't listened to in a while. Most recently I had been more into his earliest stuff, in a more or less straight up folk stylee. Sophisticated Beggar, and the first volume of the BBC Tapes being the best examples of this kind of stripped man w/ guitar stuff. I wasn't really blown away by the turn his sound took by the second record, Come Out Fighting Genghis Smith, the arrangements sometimes seem at odds with the songs. He's quite a good guitarist and I like that side of him being allowed more room to shine; the BBC record features acoustic versions of songs given more fleshed out arrangements on later records like Flat, Baroque, and Berserk. I've not heard the record you mentioned. As to any 'cult' I think it's kind of a meaningless term; I mean if you have any interest in the British folk/folk-rock scene the records have much to offer.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the advice!

j fail (cenotaph), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

For 60's stuff I like Folkjokeopus. 70's stuff I dig:Flat Baroque and Beserk, Lifemask, and HQ. He's always had his fans. I'd put him in the John Martyn category of cultdom.Their best stuff was late 60's/early 70's rock-inspired folk. You could say this about alot of people probably.Half the Harvest roster at least. Jimmy Page AND This Mortal Coil fans will always love him.

Scott Seward, Monday, 24 March 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

it's all great. cult? i don't think so

steve k (http://go.to/stevek) (stevek10), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Stormcock is excelllent, so is When the Cricketer...I like him lots

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"Another Day" is bootiful, and covered by This Mortal Coil it is BEAUTIFUL.

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeff owes me an opus on this cat (about that opus Jeff...), and as I'm still trying to get my head around his mountainous output, I'm not qualified to say too much.

I find his fascinating though - moments or real genius punctuated by creative decisions so bad you wonder that it can be the same chap. I recently aquired both One of Those Days in England (Bullinamingvase) (1977) and The Unknown Soldier (1980). The difference between the quality of material on the two albums is staggering. While the former is sparkling with acoustic guitar tricks and melodies, the latter comes on like someone howling over the spanking new Moog they've just been given. Where the first is filled with invention and ideas, the second is flat and tired. Much of Harper's output that I have heard seems to continue in the same dichotomous vein.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
i'll stick up for 'Once' (1994). despite the incendiary and somewhat ignorant song-as-rant "The Black Cloud of Islam," this album is a good one. stripped down, political, heartfelt. reminds me of recent Van the Man in its mature grace. 'Once' also features Mark Feltham, David Gilmour and Nigel Mazlyn-Jones - a combination of guest talents that works better than you'd expect it to. i'm very fond of "Sleeping at the Wheel" and "If," both as beautiful as any song Harper wrote during his heyday.

haven't heard any Harper i'd flat-out destroy (yet), but he is extremely mercurial. '(Return of the) Sophisticated Beggar', Bullinamingvase' (One of These Days in England), 'Stormcock', 'HQ' (When an Old Cricketer...) and even the depressing but masterful 'Death or Glory?' and 'Lifemask' are all fine places to start exploring. there's an addictive quality to Harper's music, as long as you like your folk-rockers eccentric, indulgent, and painfully candid.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

haha I very nearly broke my Harper duck on Saturday (saw Stormcock used for a tenner)

does Roger F still post here? Under a new name, perhaps?

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
Revive! (there aren't any good Harper threads, really)

Listening to Stormcock again right now. Its value seems to be altogether less in the tunes or the lyrics (which are both good)than the...sound -- whether the double-tracked vocals, the leslie-fied guitars, the organs, or his very plaintive, pure voice, the record is just a perfect example of minimalist overdubbing for maximal effect. Particularly, the David Bedford orchestrations on the last track -- so very underrated, that guy.

Also, I love the notes in the reissue where he talks about how happy and confident he looks in the photos -- you can definitely hear it in the music.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 20 November 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I really wish these records weren't so hard to find and/or expensive. Been looking lately after only having Stormcock and a greatest-Harvest-hits LP for years. I found Bullinamingvase, Lifemask, and HQ but the other seem elusive. Those BBC Session discs (there are 5!!) barely exist for sale online, I think I found one. You'd think some rich Led Zeppelin fan would mount a reissue campaign...

sleeve, Thursday, 3 January 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

Too true. Sometimes I see Folkjokeopus once in a while. I got my copy for $6 at Kim's; it looks quite clean but the (American) pressing is kind of bad, so a few tiny marks cause a groove or two to be skipped.

ian, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

(that remains, in fact, my only piece of harper vinyl; my roommate has a few of the CDs i think.)

ian, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

he's ok

the galena free practitioner, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

i got flat baroque and berserk at the FMU fair, but i havent seen any more around

69, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

flat baroque and berzerk is awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

i've got Flat Baroque, Stormcock and Lifemask on vinyl. all for pretty cheap.

i'll Leo Valentine in a few minutes.

jaxon, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

just got one of those days in england! it rules so far!

69, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

I recently discovered that a friend had two of the Science Friction reissues - his first LP and the live album "Flashes From The Archives of Oblivion". The first LP in particular is astonishing - I was expecting something much more like the 1st ISB or Donovan recs but he seems to have arrived with his style fully formed. I like it almost as much as Flat Baroque & Berserk. The live one is a killer overview of the first half dozen or so records.

I can't believe Science Friction had a complete reissue program that put out THIRTY Harper CDs in the mid-90's and yet they are all pretty much impossible to find now. I'd love to hear those early BBC session discs.

sleeve, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

This is kind of fun:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lsyMPoh1Kco

Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 28 April 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

those BBC cds are amazing and totally essential

Stormy Davis, Monday, 28 April 2008 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I just picked up a used copy of the deluxe version of Stormcock (hardcover book style cover) at Reckless for $12 last night, yay! Also Flat Baroque and Berserk. I've had the four albums Stormcock through HQ for many years, but sort of ignored his other stuff because of negative things I read, particularly about Folkjokeopus. But Flat Baroque is awesome. I'm tempted to go back for Bullinamingvase, though that one is full price at $22, ugh.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 June 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

"deluxe version of Stormcock (hardcover book style cover) at Reckless for $12 last night"

jealous!

sknybrg, Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

Flat Baroque is a fantastic album yeah, Side 1 especially.

C-Word Waddell (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

I got a bunch of these recently in an attempt to get into him. Had bought Stormcock some time ago and like it. Can't say I massively got into HQ and Bullingvase and Lifemask, but I liked Lifemask. I think they need more work.

He's one of these people I'm certain I'm going to really get into at some point; it's just a matter of time.

Keith, Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

Usually what happens is, you start off in high school listening to Roy Harper, then graduate to more adult music, like Floyd or Steve Miller Band.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

I listened to RHarper (Bullvase) in 'high school', then graduated to more adult music like Pil, Gang of four, etcx.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/harper__roy/COVER329-1500PX.JPG

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Monday, 20 June 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Arthur Russell-ification of RH begins

MaresNest, Monday, 20 June 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

That's a great cover, love the way it's been cropped. Although it could almost be a photo of Peter Brötzmann.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 20 June 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

Good interview too.

i wanna be yr rhizome (seandalai), Monday, 20 June 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

He was interviewed on BBC Breakfast News this morning! Bill Turnbull is a big fan of his, it seems. He was maybe a bit slow and deliberate for the fast pace of the show. Also I didn't know he'd been on Test Match Special this year, lunchtime interviewee of Jonathan Agnew's AND he got to commentate on the first ball after lunch!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 19 September 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

I recently aquired both One of Those Days in England (Bullinamingvase) (1977) and The Unknown Soldier (1980).
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While the former is sparkling with acoustic guitar tricks and melodies, the latter comes on like someone howling over the spanking new Moog they've just been given. Where the first is filled with invention and ideas, the second is flat and tired.

― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 09:56 (8 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well, I only have "One of those days" bought back in the day, and always loved it. Back then, post 1977, punk happened and Roy Harper didn't release anything for ages, and I didn't have the money to keep up with the new and got back through the old at the same time.

Mark G, Monday, 19 September 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)


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