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Planxty - amazingly innovative group who fused Irish traditional music, an almost English folk tradition, plus various Eastern European folk musics into one all conquering whole, or a load of beardy provos who debased Irish music by mixing it with alien sounds.

or something else.

I don't really know them well enough to judge, but I do like Andy Irvine's voice, playing, and songwriting.

"The Well Below The Valley" is probably my favourite album of theirs, if only for the total grimness of the title track (an unsavoury tale of incest, child murder, and damnation).

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd go as far as to say: the greatest band to come out of Ireland.

Andy Irvine's voice was great, but Christy Moore's was arguably even better.

Their self-titled first, The Well Below The Valley, and Cold Blow And The Rainy Night were all classics.

Some great songs (search):

Raggle Taggle Gypsy
Follow Me Up To Carlow
Arthur McBride
The West Coast of Clare
The Kid On The Mountain
As I Roved Out
Hewlett
The Well Below The Valley (completely grim, disquieting, as you say)
Johnny Cope
Mominsko Horo
Cold Blow And The Rainy Night
The Little Drummer

And also Farmer Michael Hayes from a later album (not sure which).

I don't wanna Destroy as they get little exposure, and they were the punkest Irish trad folk band evah.

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 27 March 2003 06:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I only know them from Kate Bush's "Night of the Swallow" -- i.e. not at all really. But search that tune anyway.

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 27 March 2003 06:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Saw them recently on No Disco, some 1980 live footage. Wouldn't mind getting an album at some point. I remember seeing some form of Planxty at the 1990 Feile and they created this massive sound outdoors.

― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Thursday, 27 March 2003 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

it was the No Disco thing that triggered the thread (I finally saw it over the weekend). interesting stuff, especially all the bitching about Phil Coulter.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 27 March 2003 12:06 (twenty-three years ago)

CLASSIC.

search: everything! david a. is OTM about Farmer Michael Hayes (which i think is on After The Break). however, anyone with any sense knows that andy irvine is Da Man.

search also: the andy irvine/paul brady album, featuring not-shit performance by paul brady (i.e. before he started thinking he was an Important Singer-Songwriter)

destroy: timedance. jaysus.

david g: i also saw the No Disco thing. disappointing lack of footage of ver planx and too much david kitt, i thought. but still nice to see.

anyone got any thoughts on the role of donal lunny in planxty? it's a contentious one back where i'm from. dyed-in-the-wool tradders tend to think he was a no-talent passenger, however there's another school of thought that holds that he contributed much in the area of arrangement and, er, possibly the derek smalls factor (the lukewarm water to christy's fire and irvine's ice, or something). i'm undecided, really.

― rener (rener), Thursday, 27 March 2003 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)

There's always too much David Kitt.

They sounded great on No Disco. The opening pipes solo had the jaws dropping on everyone I saw it with. Also search Christy Moore's Prosperous, aka Planxty record #0.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

If Donal Lunny was the passenger, how come he now runs trad?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 27 March 2003 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

The same reason Stacy Peralta now makes films about Dogtown.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 March 2003 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

didn't see the no disco special but the andy irvine song they played last night was great

― robin (robin), Thursday, 27 March 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

robin, which one did they play? was it the plains of kildare (the one about the racehorses)? he brought down the roof in whelan's with that one when he supported will oldham last year. fab stuff indeed.

― rener (rener), Thursday, 27 March 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

it was a bulgarian folk song...
i was actually at that whelan's gig,but i don't remember much of andy irvine's set,i think he was on when i arrived,i remember thinking it was quite good and all but i wasn't that into it...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 27 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
We got the auld book about Planxty for Christmas. There is more Coulter scoving shenanigans. Apparently he wanted to play piano on one of their records and they told him to shag off.

― The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Some good Planxty footage and info on that 'Folk Hibernia' prog on BBC4. Prob being repeated this week.

― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I have been listening to the first album all week and it just gets better. The Blacksmith is taking first place at the moment. The last 2 minutes is just about some of the best music I've ever heard.

― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Check it out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z3A5Tgy47M

― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

andy irvine/paul brady record is the best planxty related release for me, but most of them are pretty great

― gershy, Sunday, 9 September 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ned Trifle OTM.

Also, this is worth a look (Part 1 of 3).

― Lostandfound, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

i've been meaning to check this lot out ever since a drunken taxi ride in perth about six months ago, soundtracked by their truly exquisite music. go on, someone tell me an album to start with. the note i wrote in my "stuff to get" list says: "awesome dark folk with exquisite moments of harmony".

go on, someone tell me where to start.

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 10 September 2007 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

First album!

― Tom D., Monday, 10 September 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

consider it done!

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 10 September 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

Then work chronologically!

― Tom D., Monday, 10 September 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

easy!

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 10 September 2007 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Andy Irvine playing a few gigs in London over the weekend, be there or be square

― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 12:26 (sixteen years ago)

@Tom A. (or anyone): Did you go see him? He's playing Cambridge on the 23rd but I really ought to be leaving town that day; I could rearrange if top form is guaranteed.

On the back of this thread I went and bought the first two albums last week; I'm spellbound. I grew up with a half-intentional disinterest in traditional music - it always seemed to be either over-reverential or just guys belting it out in the pub. I must have heard Planxty before but never paid attention...what's amazing is the great subtlety in their arrangements and delivery, but also the feeling that you're hearing the musicians creating a new expressive language for Irish folk music. It reminds me a bit of another favourite of mine, Folk Roots New Roots by Shirley Collins and Davy Graham.

― seandalai, Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

i saw andy irvine play in new york a couple of times about 20 years ago. very good performer. can't go wrong with any of the planxty records (i think there's one i never heard tho).the andy irvine/paul brady record is the pinnacle of that era of irish folk music imo. paul brady was such a great folk artist, shame he moved on although i suppose those bonnie raitt residuals are nice. did not know about this
He performed Gaelic songs as a character in the 2002 Matthew Barney film Cremaster 3.

― -hot-dean ge-fever- (buzza), Saturday, 2 October 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

he andy irvine/paul brady record is the pinnacle of that era of irish folk music

^^^^

This

― sonofstan, Saturday, 2 October 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Co-sign

― The Bartered Bride (Ówen P.), Saturday, 2 October 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

This is Planxty in 72(I think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtUhxhYAxSg&feature=youtu.be

Watch as they turn into the Gansey Underground at the end, with Christy as a Nico/ Mo combo on harmonium and bodhran, and Liam óg as the John Cale of the pipes.

― sonofstan, Saturday, 2 October 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Wrong link sorry *red face*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtUhxhYAxSg&feature=youtu.be

― sonofstan, Saturday, 2 October 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck.... sorry.

Look it up its the Blacksmith by Planxty on the Late Late....

― sonofstan, Saturday, 2 October 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

hot hurdy gurdy action!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9Y3ChP1go&feature=related

― -hot-dean ge-fever- (buzza), Saturday, 2 October 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

he andy irvine/paul brady record is the pinnacle of that era of irish folk music

^^^^

This

― sonofstan, Saturday, October 2, 2010 6:16 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Co-sign

― The Bartered Bride (Ówen P.), Saturday, October 2, 2010 6:21 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

If ever there was a case of "ILM told me to do it"...

― seandalai, Saturday, 2 October 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

i hate paul brady tho

― plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

1) first 3 planxty albums are the shit
2) andy irvine/paul brady LP is even better. damn.

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 06:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_9MJVqsOFY

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 06:19 (fifteen years ago)

those are some deeply satisfying chord changes btw

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 06:19 (fifteen years ago)

andy irvine/paul brady LP is even better. damn.

yup

― buzza, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 08:20 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiysyMvHX3Q

― buzza, Friday, 4 November 2011 06:56 (fourteen years ago)

no embed?

― buzza, Friday, 4 November 2011 06:57 (fourteen years ago)

didn't know johnny played the fiddle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYW5dwZJRA&feature=related

― buzza, Friday, 4 November 2011 07:04 (fourteen years ago)

no YouTube at work.

I was at a music festival last weekend where local psych rock improv etc band United Bible Studies did a storming version of 'P Stands For Paddy, I Suppose', which I am guessing they knew from "Cold Blow...". I liked it, though trad purist Mrs The New Dirty Vicar was bit annoyed.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 4 November 2011 13:22 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyP407UnUWw

― buzza, Monday, 24 September 2012 00:51 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

quality of christy's voice at points here just killin me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4w2_sal2bA

― Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 August 2013 05:26 (thirteen years ago)

The book on them by Leagues O'toole was a very good read. Wish Shanachie would remaster the lps, I think the most recent reisue was just a straight non-remastered one. Think that was about 3 years ago. & since they did actually do a good job of the Culture 2 7s Clash cd remaster reisue at the time I don't know why they didn't with Planxty.

― Stevolende, Saturday, 10 August 2013 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

The No Disco/documentary thing is up on YouTube btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvoA959GYIA

― Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Saturday, 10 August 2013 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

This is a good a place as any to recommend Andy Irvine's prior group, Sweeney's Men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpAGKahR9sQ&feature=player_detailpage&t=135

― Duke, Saturday, 10 August 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

I've been on a big Planxty-related buzz over Christmas and I was thinking - reharmonising of old well known songs, adding virtuoso instrumental sections, bringing in instruments and tunes from other traditions and making it your own, a whole overlapping ecosystem of bands and members where you can start from one album and branch out as you see fit, all while being fully grounded in an oral tradition that goes way, way back - it's basically Irish jazz, isn't it?

Sweeney's Men were great, but Liam O'Flynn was Planxty's secret ingredient. Like for The Blacksmith they're playing an old English song they got from Steeleye Span, as a duet between mandolin and bouzouki, with an original Balkan-inspired coda at the end, but the pipes come in and suddenly you're in west Clare. The bit where everything but the pipes drop out and then they come back in with the bodhrán makes the whole song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_1YIJCrYHk

― B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 15:08 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

Liam O'Flynn RIP

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0314/947337-liam-oflynn/

― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:06 (eight years ago)

Learned this on guitar once, DADGAD of course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5Gi6U4MQ0

― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:09 (eight years ago)

https://youtu.be/YMvBnEvuBuA

― Duke, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMvBnEvuBuA

― Duke, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:10 (eight years ago)

Second attempt. Amazing performance from the 2004 gig

― Duke, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:10 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

What a fuckin band tbh

― ian, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

eleven months pass...

No love on this thread for the Andy Irvine/Dick Caughan record 'Parallel Lines'?
I kinda get hung up on the Creggan White Hare and forget how stunning most of the rest of the record is - the main exception being the sax coda on "My Back Pages"... some stunning stunning material on here. "At Twenty One"? Damn!

― ian, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 00:36 (two years ago)

Planxty!!!!!

― ian, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 13:45 (two years ago)


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