But on the other hand i can't really enjoy his early work, because it's way too normal and/or dated millsian techno. I thought last year's "Dungeon Master" lp was a bit disappointing. Super_Collider sounds simultaneaously too ambitious and over-respectful towards old and new music. And i just don't understand Jamie Lidell's so-called talent.
So wassedeal cousin?
― Etienne (Etienne), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)
One of the things I loved about him is his minimalism; but then I love Mills, Hawtin, etc. His best stuff is minimal, but not banging or bleeping like those guys. He throws in enough human elements (vocal samples, etc), and ambient moves to differentiate himself. Beginning to Understand was the first of his I'd heard and I was just really into that sound at the time. I still think Specific Momentific is his best. I actually have not heard any Super_Collider. I bought the Jamie Lidell cd after really enjoying his 12" on Mosquito, but I wasn't too into it.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Are you kidding? That's some fantastic fucked up greasy machine techno. One of the best dance LP's of last year!
― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)
those first couple of releases on primate were incredible
Rescate 137 was the soundtrack of my life for about 2 weeks of very late nights
and the super_collider show I saw a few months ago, was the best live act of the year for me
― geeg, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
vogel is a prime example of a "micro" artist working in a techno idiom.
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 19 May 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 19 May 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Christian Vogel's hard, minimal stuff is supremely funky for the genre, and he has a terrific sense for rhythmic bounce. He can do the 'rough-industrial-textures-which -should-be-harsh-but-my-aren't they-warm-and-fuzzy' thing, too.
His solo stuff is underrated, Super_Collider is hugely overrrated. It's just journalists that overrate the latter. Give them a vocal and a tune and they think "At last! Techno that I can understand!"
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually I don't think that Super_Collida are particularly more tuneful than, say, Rescate 137 (or whatever it is) - and anyone who's listening to Super_Collida is likely to be comfortable listening to music without a tune or a vocal anyway. I think that people find Super_Collida interesting because of the *tension* between song and fucked-up groove.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― bob snoom, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)
that said, i think buscas invisibles is the best one. and i think i was too harsh about landstrumm's album.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 14 August 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
-- vahid
I think so too.
― vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Sunday, 14 August 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)
wish super_collider could be this strange, though I know they're going for something different with that project.
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 1 October 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 2 October 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago)
― bad hair day house (fandango), Saturday, 2 September 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago)
So, Scientific Momentific, eh. One of those albums Where I had a handful of mp3's on my computer for years and years, and then get the CD, and it makes sense perfectly, all the songs I've heard before sound better, and it's a fantastic piece of kind of fascinating, really interesting music. And hooray, I get to see him play in a week!
― mehlt, Thursday, 22 May 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
man, I love dungeon master. it just sounds huge. "tasty mission" is such an awesome track.
...but I haven't really dug much deeper. anyone care to suggest what I should hit up next?
― original bgm, Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P4DlpZIbkA
love this guy, new one sounds amazing
― Crackle Box, Monday, 2 July 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago)
new one is pretty good indeed
― sisilafami, Monday, 2 July 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago)
Christian Vogel wrote an Amazon review of Automatic Writing..
― mmmm, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago)
the bob ashley piece?
dammit i want to play with a kyma system, some of the strange morphing things he does sound so ridiculous and awesome.
― Crackle Box, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago)
yeah the Ashley thing, was surprised to see that. I went to buy The Inertials the other day but I couldn't find a copy. I thought Shitkatapult were dist by Kompakt so it would be easy to find. I bought the Tom Thiel (Sun Electric) on the same label. That is good too.
― mmmm, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago)
dud
― the late great, Thursday, 19 July 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago)
https://cristianvogel.bandcamp.com/album/all-music-has-come-to-an-end-2015-remaster
nice to hear this again
― Crackle Box, Monday, 22 June 2015 15:41 (nine years ago)
tearing the groove one of my fav tracks
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:28 (nine years ago)
sounds much better than it did in the past
― the late great, Thursday, 2 July 2015 03:48 (nine years ago)