Are the Datsuns, Witnesses, etc etc the cut out bin staples of tomorrow? Explain why or why not.
I think it's inevitable. I consider myself a very discerning listener - I can tell the difference between every Jandek record and can identify different parts of Elaine Radigue tracks. I can sing you everything 68 Comeback and the Gibson Bros ever recorded. But as a critic, I find myself having a difficult time reviewing this 'garage revival' shit recently because, for the life of me, I cannot tell most of these bands apart. Perspectives?
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
As for the recent stuff, most of it was a blur to me anyway. I suspect there'll be a White Stripes comp one day that will be cooed over and that a Hives song or two will end up on a box set. Beyond that, into the cut-out bin of doom!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
it'd be one thing if this were true. but the fact is none of these bands have actually stormed the charts. for all the fanfare, the 2 biggest ones have barely cracked gold certification (in the U.S., anyway). which is not to say Elephant won't give 50 Cent some competition in Billboard -- but i doubt it. some of these bands may have long, respectable careers, but none of them is destined for the Nirvana-level crossover they're all being groomed by the media for. it's just silly. and it's media bias. I mean, Jimmy Eat World sold more records than the Strokes, but the mags aren't losing their shit over them as the return of rawk.
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Jimmy Eat World will definitely have a fine greatest hits album if they stick around. "Lucky Denver Mint," "The Middle" & "Sweetness" are admittedly cheesy but moving nonetheless.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
bands that will make it:
bands that won't:all of them. who out of this batch of garage rock also-rans is getting serious (or even marginal) radio airplay? none.
― mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
As for the matter at hand, none of these bands are REALLY cracking through. The Strokes (who really have nothing nothing nothing to do with Garage), Stripes and Hives are probably more familiar for their names than their music with Joe Q. Music Fan.But, as compared to the Electronica non-start fad alluded to earlier, there has long been a community or scene or whatever for these bands. Or at least these types of bands. At the very worst it'll be more like what happened with ska, but on a much lower level.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Nu Metal was awful awful awful, yes - but it had nothing to do with me. My cousin said to me over Thanksgiving, "James, you're a musician, right? You must HATE all this Britney shit, huh?" and I had to explain why Britney meant no more to me than How To Marry A Millionaire or Trading Spaces or any other bullshit cultural phenomonon. Britney ain't breathing my air and neither were Full Devil Jacket. I have nothing for them but indifference. But I got a pile of shitty bands to review who all have tassled hair and Converse, and I'm disappointed that peers of mine are falling for it.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
One good nu metal band was Otep, at least their single, "Blood Pigs" - i loved that song
and you wanna talk about famous last words? I'm the idiot who famously whispered to a friend "they're going nowhere" when the Yeah Yeah Yeahs opened for Dead Moon to about ten people about two years ago.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Scott Seward, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, and one thing I like about Elephant is that it actually sounds like they don't care. I mean, they were obviously poised for big break-through blah blah blah, and they probably could have done it -- or they sure could have tried harder, anyway. Hired Butch Vig (or the equivalent, you know what I mean), synched Meg's drums so they were at least on the beat, brought in Billy Corgan to play bass or whatever... And they did none of the above. But at the same time, they haven't struck any big "no sell out" pose -- they do MTV, the magazine covers, whatever. They seem like they enjoy the attention and are wary of it at the same time (viz the White Blood Cells album cover/inner sleeve). They sound like they're having fun. And they've put out four good albums in a row. Nothing but affection from me.
― Jesse Fox Mayshark (Jesse Fox), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sonny Tremaine (Sonny), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'd just like to point out that going gold does constitute chart success. Consider how many bands don't sell 500,000 copies. I'd also like to point out that the U.S. isn't the only music-buying nation. And chart success is relative. If you're recording an album on a Michael Jackson budget, gold is nuthin'. If you're recording on eight-track analog, 500,000 is a lot of profit.And the record companies are interested in a profit. There wouldn't be a second BMG Strokes album without it.
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― pauls00, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Thursday, 3 April 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
And if, like the original Nuggets, we're mainly gonna deal with actual chart hits, then we could argue that these BEST OF '90s rock or POWER BALLADS USA comps ARE the Nuggets comps of today.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 April 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyway, the garage or garage-y revival-esque stuff of the last 25 years or whatever isn't, y'know, Garage in THAT sense. It would be ridiculous to hold a comp up in the same light as the Nuggets sets (which are sorta ridiculous and overrated anyhoo).
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 3 April 2003 01:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
In light of this I have decided to never hope for a "new" Nuggets ever again.
― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― theodore fogelsanger, Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Jody, you're smarter than that. Clearchannel tries to have one station in each format at least -- country, "urban", nu-rock, etc.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:44 (twenty-one years ago) link