name your favorite unrecognized musical genius

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live or dead band whatever

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

boogaloo joe jones

― Ben Silver (Ben Silver), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

John Lennon.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Me!
Seriously though: Leroy Sibbles

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

John Moore.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Lewis A. Martineé

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

ron house

― thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The Frogs

― sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Matt Wand aka Stockhausen and Walkman

― sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Andy Prieboy
Tod [A]shley
Erik Sanko

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Position Normal are unsung heroes too

― sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never heard of any of these people. they must suk

― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Real Answer: Richard "Criminally Unappreciated" Thompson
Contrarian Answer: Thomas "Airhead" Dolby

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Nickalicious.

― Nobodee (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

ted dockstader. i'm pretty sure i wouldn't recognise him if i saw him in the street.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

actually he might be dead and unrecognisable now anyway.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

tod's not dead

― milton, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Akio Suzuki could become my "favourite unrecognized" mus.gen. some day, i suppose - when i get to hear some of his music, that is

...is Paul Giger sufficiently "unrecognized"?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

no no, i was talking about ted, tods dead brother

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Tony Banks

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark Corrin

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Deadsy aren't genius, but I sure adore them and I wish I wasn't the only one.

― Fivvy (Fivvy), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Davey Graham...I've never been a 'pure' blues or folk fan, but for some reason, when the two come together, it works a treat. There's something about the finger-style acoustic guitar, dbl bass & loud drums that I find really exciting & the vocals bring to mind something between Jim Morrison, Derek Griffiths & Rick Jones ('70s UK kids TV presenters). Apologies if that sounds stupid - it's rather late.

Anyway, re 'unrecognised', I know he influenced countless ac. guitarists in the '60s (Bert Jansch etc...Light Flight gives that one away), but I don't get how he could have disappeared so far into obscurity. I've only seen him once on TV, performing a cameo in the film The Servant.

― Jez (Jez), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Besides Banks, honorable mention to Colin Moulding too.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark Mothersbaugh
Geordie Walker

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ron House? Jesus!) OK, Mick Divvens...

― M Specktor (M Specktor), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Miller (Game Theory/Loud Family)

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Jerry Reed

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Joe Rapozo

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Black Jack McDowell

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

may the good lord have mercy on our souls
http://www.limpbizkit.com/uploaded_media/Resize%20Assistant-7.jpg

oh, and Eric Valentine, probably my favorite producer working today

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Jagz Kooner

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Henry Threadgill

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Brent Best of Slobberbone

― rat, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Wes Borland!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

BigDumbFace was 3095890x worse then the last Limp Bizkit album. Joe Raposo wrote songs for Seasame Street and the Muppet movies. Like "Im a Dog Im a Workin Dog", "Its Aint Easy Being Green" and my favorite "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12!!!!"

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeff Lorber

― s woods, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

mr s woods, sir - you are serious??

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but primarily for producing Nu Shooz. (After I listed him I did a google search to see what would come up, and it's kinda scary, I admit.)

― s woods, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

David Hewat.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

re Lorber: heard him at a festival sometime in the early '90s, and a few tracks (supposedly) from around that same time - it was some of the lamest technozoid fuzak i've heard during the past twenty-five years... but i haven't heard Nu Shooz, i admit that

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Well then, get to it--NOW. (Actually, if you were of age--i.e., 6 and older--in the '80s, you probably heard them on the radio. "Point of No Return" and "I Can't Wait" were the hits, but the best one, "Should I Say Yes," fizzled really fast.)

― s woods, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

thanx for the tip, sure ...huh, i was 20 in '80, but at that particular time (up to mid-80s, i.e.) that kind of music "wasn't allowed" on the radio, as a rule, in our neck of the woods :-)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but primarily for producing Nu Shooz

Hello from the OTHER Nu Shooz fan on this board. :-)

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Blind Willie Davis

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Nu Shooz love all around.

― s woods, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Steffan Basho-Junghans
Alex Newport
John Olsen

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The Zulus - Great Boston band from the 80's. Should've been huge. Their guitarist, Rich Gilbert played some on Uncle Tupelo's No Depression, he still plays locally in RI with some band I can't recall the name of. The singer, Larry Bangor, used to be in Human Sexual Response, another great answer to this thread's question.

― Davlo (Davlo), Thursday, 3 April 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Nels Cline

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 3 April 2003 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

this Nu Shooz stuff is scaring me. But then again all I've seen of them is some scary stop-motion animated video on VH1 classic and back as a kid they were on Nickolodeon once. But damn, neither of those experiences made me want to do anything other than scream for it to stop.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 April 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

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Mr French

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Thursday, 3 April 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Daniel Figgis

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron Turner

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronnie Hazlehurst

― Dave Stelfox, Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Daniel Figgis
-- summerslastsound

vow. prob'bly a second or third time that i've seen somebody mention Figgis round here.
hey, summerslastsound - have you seen'n'heard any of his theatre work or multi-media projects as well?
(i kno'nly the skipper alb and a few pieces from elsewhere)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Beefheart put that Magic Band through it; some of their recording sessions, none of them could hear what each other were doing (he had to do this with some of his compositions having parts in conflicting time sigs).

And as this "unrecognized musical genius" stuff goes, in the world of jazz you have a bunch of folks who get their proper respects (Duke, Monk, Miles, Coltrane, Mingus, fr'instance), but there's one guy (that worked with many of those just mentioned) who's genius seems to have gone nearly unnoticed - Rahsaan Roland Kirk.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

no, regrettably. has Poisonhats (Figgis' theatre/multimedia cavalcade) ever set up camp outside of Dublin? a DVD would be nice, but i won't hold my breath. still waiting, like everyone else, for the sequel to Skipper, now - what, ten years overdue?! a casualty of the Big Cat collapse, i realize, yet i'd have thought some astute label might have salvaged it by now. the album must be finished - there were excerpts on an early WIRETapper. and Skipper held such promise. frustrating. did the Blackburst reissue ever materialize? extra tracks?

― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"Beefheart put that Magic Band through it; some of their recording sessions, none of them could hear what each other were doing (he had to do this with some of his compositions having parts in conflicting time sigs)."

He certainly did put them through it - he actually had them locked up in a house in Laurel Canyon practicing for months on end with virtually no contact with the outside world, very little money and very little food.

As for them not being able to hear each other in the studio 'though, I'm afraid that's a myth - they could and did play all that stuff live with absolute precision (which when you think about it is even more astounding!). The whole of Trout Mask Replica was recorded pretty much live in the studio in one session, most tracks in one take, with no overdubs.

I suspect the source of the misunderstanding may be that Don is alleged (by Frank Zappa) to have refused to wear headphones while recording some or all of his vocals, "hearing only vague leakage through the studio window, thus rendering him only slightly in synch with the actual track"; but then according to Don, Frank was asleep under the mixing desk throughout the entire session anyway, emerging only at the end to be told to his astonishment and disbelief that "the album's finished Frank"!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam Morgan Jazz Band

― Burr (Burr), Thursday, 3 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

john bender
-- your null fame

"I wanna be an Air Borne Ranger/I wanna live a life of danger"
http://www.judd-website.co.uk/images/bclub4.jpg

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 3 April 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a video of the Magic Band playing live...it's very gnarly bad quality, but man TALK. ABOUT. TWANG. Good stuff fer sure. (Thanks for the edumacation, btw.)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

hey, milton,
tell us more about tod dockstader (or milton babbitt even, just not ted)

― george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

John Robie

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 April 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Celso Pina: El Rebelde del Acordeon!

― Neudonym, Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

I mentioned the Frogs on this thread. Are they still going? Tried to email various sites that claim to be them, but get no response.... sad as I love 'em

― sonicred (sonicred), Sunday, 13 February 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Mark E. Smith is the greatest lyricist since Bob Dylan.

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Sunday, 13 February 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

Mort Garson

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 13 February 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Bob Gaudio

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Michael O'Shea

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Ill Mitch boi

http://www.illmitch.com/

― Rizz (Rizz), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Stars In Battledress, unknown, unloved and generally under the radar.
But frickin' total pastoral english beautiful genius.

http://www.starsinbattledress.com/

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Ill Mitch rocks my world!

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Brandon Biondo.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

The Gist

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

That Stars in Battledress looks interesting.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Andrew Wile (E) Koyote- super musical genius.

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Michael O'Shea is pretty cool!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

JAKI LEIBEZEIT

― fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

fauxhemian you are the man.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

CLUB OFFFFFF CHAOS

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Deadsy aren't genius, but I sure adore them and I wish I wasn't the only one.
― Fivvy (Fivvy), Wednesday, April 2, 2003 3:20 PM (7 years ago)

markers... is that you?

― ilxor, Sunday, 16 January 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

ben cooper - electric president

joe meek

will cullen hart - the olivia tremor control (of elephant six collective) songwriter/arranger

― jumpskins, Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

Luke Vibert

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

Roxy was chillwave before they had a name for it? Could totally imagine her listening to Walsh.

The whistling in my nostrils sounded like distant gulls.

― bamcquern, Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

I still love Deadsy!

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Bruce Haack

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

Neil Michael Hagerty

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

having a hard time coming up with a good definition of 'unrecognized.' does this mean 'not a household name'? cuz that list could be kinda long. contenders maybe graham lambkin (performance with jason lescaleet last night was unbelievable), robert ashley, michael hurley (is he unrecognized?), alfred g. karnes, richard youngs.. .

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

yep, Richard Youngs. I came here to post that.

― MEG_tron (kraudive), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

Dave Gregory

Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson

― Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

and Chris Carter too

― Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

Larry Smith

― sisilafami, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

Takako Minekawa

― i probably busted a nut when i was tossing her cookie salad (unregistered), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

:(pretty sure that's the first non-male nominated here)

― i probably busted a nut when i was tossing her cookie salad (unregistered), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

Roland Kayn

― Milton Parker, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

at this very second, Charles Stepney

― The Reverend, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

sisilafami's answer is good too

― The Reverend, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

matthew smith

― all you need are plums (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

steve goldberg

― buzza, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:40 (fourteen years ago)

Roberto Zanetti (Savage)
Piero Cassano
Moose (the band)

― daavid, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:43 (fourteen years ago)

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