Krautrocksampler: Anybody know where I can get a copy?

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This now seems to have disappeared completely from the bookshops and even from Amazon. Does anyone know of any record or second hand book shops (UK) that might have it?

I'm kicking myself for putting off buying it when it came out!

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 3 April 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

It's vaguely amusing but not in the least definitive...

― Dadaismus, Thursday, 3 April 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't kick yourself - it's the worst book I have never managed to read right the way through. Julian Cope is a f***in' abysmal writer...

― Dave Stelfox, Thursday, 3 April 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I've always really enjoyed his style of writing myself, whereas I've never cared at all for his music!

I would really like to get that book.

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

In case you know your german: www.amazon.de
I just bought a german translation on ebay (since buying an english one is a) highly unlikely and b) fukcign expensive) and found out later that buying it from amazon.de would've been cheaper... I would however buy the original if I could find it somewhere priced reasonably. (why don't they reprint it? or maybe we should collectively ask them to do so, it seems to me that a lot of the people here would want one (i've seen requests in a couple of threads)

― willem (willem), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheers Willem, but it's nearly 12 years since I studied German, so I think the intricacies would be rather lost on me. I guess I'll have to write to headheritage.com and get that petition going!

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll sign it!
(maybe posting a link to this thread would "add a little weight"?)

― willem (willem), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Two man army!

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought would be the place; either that or check Book Exchange on Pembridge Road or Helter Skelter in Denmark Street (Londoner options these).

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

M: That's not really Shock & Awe, is it?

― willem (willem), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops: I am html retard: www.headheritage.com

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't kick yourself - it's the worst book I have never managed to read right the way through. Julian Cope is a f***in' abysmal writer"

Balderdash. It's far from a definitive account, true. But it's written in the spirit of the music by someone that clearly loves it dearly. Mind you, I've never felt any need to listen to his records.

― Jason J, Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't kick yourself - it's the worst book I have never managed to read right the way through. Julian Cope is a f***in' abysmal writer...

it's quite informative, though, if you don't know much about the subject. I dug up my copy the other day following a conversation about Faust with some pals in Nottingham.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, headheritage are the last people in the world deserving of a shock and awe approach. Perhaps I should revise what I said earlier to "two person petition - thus far!"

Cheers for the kind recommendations, Suzy. I thought I'd hold off trying Helter Skelter for as long as poss as I'm sure it'd cost through them! I'll give the Book Exchange a go, though!

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"Balderdash. It's far from a definitive account, true. But it's written in the spirit of the music by someone that clearly loves it dearly. Mind you, I've never felt any need to listen to his records."

I'm afraid not. It covers the right things, it's just badly, badly, badly written and really annoying to read... standing firm on my assessment that it's a bloody rotten book...

― Dave Stelfox, Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

who wants it?

http://www.gemm.com/ddc/search.pl?&disp_ad_format_mode=0&artist=COPE%2CJULIAN&RAUTROCKSAMPLER&&title=KRAUTROCKSAMPLER+%23&RAUTROCKSAMPLER&

― bill neil (inabillity), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

"I'm afraid not. It covers the right things, it's just badly, badly, badly written and really annoying to read... standing firm on my assessment that it's a bloody rotten book..."

-- Dave Stelfox (destelfo...), April 3rd, 2003.

Man, you got no SOUL.

― Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

I lent my copy of this to a guy about 5 years ago. Every once in a while I ask him if I can have it back, and he's like "sure thing". But he never does. Last time I spoke to him he confessed that he hadn't even opened it up!

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 26 May 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

It has lots of inaccuracies, some of which I'm convinced are intentional.

Hands up who thinks Can/Damo sings "One eyed soul, mushroom head" and "I'm gonna get my kicks there"

The Jesus and Mary chain had it as "I'm gonna keep my distance". I have it as "I'm gonna keep my despair"

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 May 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Actual Faust lyric:

"J'ai mal aux dents, j'ai mal aux pieds aussi"

Julian Cope (p. 117) renders this as:

"Chet-va Buddha, Cherra-loopiz"

Can't wait to read Cope's definitive Proust translation.

I am NOT convinced any of this is intentional. I AM, however, convinced that Julian Cope is a drooling idiot, but then I already knew that way back when I first heard the Teardrop Explodes.

― Audie, Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

I think it's "I'm gonna keep my despair."

And the Faust song in question is actually "Chef Paul Prudhomme / Chef I won't pay to see."

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Mark, are you implying that Cope's interpretations of Suzuki's lyrics are inaccurate? Because honestly, I'm not even sure Damo knows...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

The Can Lyrics Project

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 26 May 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

i have a .pdf file of krautrocksampler, email me if you want it

mcutt@m4c.c0m

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

"Please, sir, can I have some more?"

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Uh-oh, cutty.
The email bounced off your mailbox.

The following addresses had fatal errors:
mcutt@m4c.c0m: 550 [PERMFAIL] destination not valid within DNS

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

oh Custos...

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

What can I say, my ISP bites big beef. Maybe this is one more hint that I should break down, plunk down the money and switch services.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

"l.custos@att.remove-this-to-mail-me.net"

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

yeah. exactly.
Maybe I should switch to the normal AT&T and not this cheap knockoff.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

But anyhow, Yes, cutty, I'd love a copy. (As long as the file is less than 20mb, it'll fit.)

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

0h cu5t05...

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

wh4t?

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

r0ffl3

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

PWN3D

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

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― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

"Now is the ze time on Schprockets vhere ve recompile our kernels."

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

he still doesn't get it.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Explain it to me then.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

O shit.
Never mind.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

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― Amon (eman), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

actually, try his other email -> mcu77@m4c.c0m

― Amon (eman), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I've already emailed him successfully, you can stop now.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 27 May 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Actual Faust lyric:
"J'ai mal aux dents, j'ai mal aux pieds aussi"
Julian Cope (p. 117) renders this as:

"Chet-va Buddha, Cherra-loopiz"

But the whole point of the original lyric is that it's ambiguous

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 27 May 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Wuh? I thought everyone *knew* it was "shit pal Buddha, shimano pharisee"?!?!

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

It's like, wow, whatever you want it to be man, like outasight, don't bogart that joss stick etc....

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 27 May 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

"J'ai mal aux dents, j'ai mal aux pieds aussi"

and Custos' e-mail addy is..

(e-mail.custos@move-this-to-mail-to-me.net)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 27 May 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

"Chet-va Buddha, Move this to mail to me"

― Amon (eman), Friday, 27 May 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

You can download a pdf file of the book from here:

http://postpunkjunk.com/

You have to scroll down a bit.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

hooray!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

"e-mail custos, move-this-to-mail-to-me"

Hee, I'm funny sometimes.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

Just looked on ebay, there's one auction that has it at £23 with three days to go, or an 'instant purchase' buyitnow one for £69.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

I gave mine away, you know. Mind you, it was well-thumbed.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh man this thread

― señor citizen (eman), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

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