Obviously, there was much "cooler" and more culturally significant music being made at this time (to which ILM attests daily) -- but for folks who didn't come through "punk" (were not hard-core music heads), and who were a bit too old and suburban (by choice) to be part of a "scene," I think my parents had pretty good taste.
What's the equivalent today? What do relatively cool, but NON-hipster people in their early 30s -- who didn't come through "indie" or the dance music scene -- listen to? Is it the "Triple-A"/Morning Becomes Eclectic stuff -- Wilco, Lucinda Williams, Beck, Badly Drawn Boy? I'd like to think there's something more exciting than that (not to disparage those fine artists).
Maybe part of the problem is that, in the old days, "cool" music was all around, while in the '80s and (especially) '90s it became cordoned off in "indie" land... so now it's either you're "into music" and listened to indie rock in college and kind of still follow the "scene" -- or else you listen to, like, Train?
I'd like to nominate "69 Love Songs" for what SHOULD be today's cool adult music, but is way too "indie" to qualify. (The qualifying early-'30s people I know have never heard of the Magnetic Fields.) The Strokes may fit aesthetically, plus they're on a major label, but they're not really "adults," are they...
Shit, where's the Bruce Springsteen of today? Where's the Cyndi Lauper, even? Where's the smart, farily sophistocated middle ground between Stephin Merritt and Dave Matthews?
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 4 April 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 April 2003 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Friday, 4 April 2003 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox, Friday, 4 April 2003 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox, Friday, 4 April 2003 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox, Friday, 4 April 2003 07:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox, Friday, 4 April 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox, Friday, 4 April 2003 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)
But actually Scandinavia rules adult coolness with:
RoyksoppBjorkSigur RosLisa Ekhdal
― Etienne Menu (Etienne), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
"mom and dad USA" have never heard of travis, MAYBE saw the coldplay video once when they were inching up the dial towards ESPN or Bravo, white stripes no idea but it doesn't feel right.
i think the question is grate; 'what happened to cool adult [x]' where x is any part of popular culture i think could actually hold, too?
here are my choices:The DonnasGroove Armada
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)
(that makes it look like her name is "Old Annie Lennox" or something)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, exactly, like "Repo Man," "Desperately Seeking Susan," "Blue Velvet"... movies I associate with, again, my folks.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Where's the "1999" of today, maaaaan?
Perhaps it will be "Elephant," or some as-yet-unrealized Bjork record.(Portishead and Massive Attack are dead-on, btw.)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)
(insert your own comment about suddenly feeling old in this space)
― slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Wintermute (Wintermute), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't know, though -- I was a little tiny tyke in the mid - late '80s and I think I would've freaked out had my parents not listened to the '60s Motown and '50s doo-wop they listened to. They were the ones responsible for getting me into Marvin Gaye, The Supremes, and Stevie Wonder, among others, and without that sort of base, as well as the '60s British Invasion music I also heard on the oldies radio (esp. The Beatles, The Stones, and The Kinks -- oh GOD how I loved The Kinks!), I wouldn't have made any wise music choices. I think little kids should be exposed to that sort of thing, you know, the music of the '50s and '60s. It'll get them a good basis on what to judge "pop" (as in popular) music on.
― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)
"Liquid Sky" is another one in that "group." The "sorta yuppie but also cool and sophistocated and edge-of-'New Wave'" paradigm. I associate it with people from Germany drinking wine and stuff. I associate with the metro D.C. area. This is all obv. hopelessly bound to my specific childhood experience.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Wintermute (Wintermute), Friday, 4 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess my point is that I have this idealized childhood memory of this '80s cultural space at the intersection of yuppie and New Wave, where groovy people in their early 30s (but not necessarily "hipsters," whathad those were then) had cool stuff to listen to and watch - something that seems largely gone now.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)
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― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 4 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick H, Friday, 4 April 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 4 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 4 April 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick H, Friday, 4 April 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess the equivalent today would be the latest U2 and R.E.M. albums (if they still made albums people wanted to hear).
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Why? Just curious
― Dave Stelfox, Sunday, 6 April 2003 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 6 April 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave M. (rotten03), Sunday, 6 April 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
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― jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
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― msp, Friday, 20 February 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)
I get so appalled by the little I hear of today's music that I stopped trying to dig through the haystack years ago. This suddenly became more of a problem because I'm not just insta-judging people for having "bad" music taste but I'm also starting to paint groups of people with same brush. Not that music taste has any significance to whether I become friends with anyone, but it's depressing because music is so damn important in my life and I'm attributing today's crap to all of today's youth even when they aren't around.
I almost need validation that there is some good stuff out there that is popular with young adults in order to rekindle hope for today's generation and stop bitching about it. I wouldn't be throwing shade if the new music, that I inevitably hear somewhere, hadn't become more and more depressing for me. Can yall help me rekindle the flame?
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:39 (eight years ago)
i don't really get the premise of this thread. when i was a kid the coolest adults i knew listened to jazz, avant garde type stuff, lots of international music, experimental shit, etc and afaict that continues to be the case. i like a lot of the bands listed itt but none of them strike me as particularly "cool adult music"
― Mordy, Friday, 28 July 2017 19:48 (eight years ago)
I remember when Coldplay was good enough to go on winamp playlist at a college party
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:52 (eight years ago)
I like The Paramores. My stepson tells me I'm cool every time I ask him.
― Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:54 (eight years ago)
xxp
I took this thread to be about AOR for "cool people" (aka college young adults) but I could be mistaken
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:56 (eight years ago)
I get so appalled by the little I hear of today's music...
/r/lewronggeneration
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:17 (eight years ago)
There is so much good music out there being made. But critically acclaimed baby-boomer MOR is a heritage genre now, this happens to most genres, nothing new to see here. If you still want to listen to Brothers In Arms and Graceland then fair enough, the CDs are still available in shops, probably on vinyl too now.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)
I actually wanted help finding new music but I 90% wasn't expecting any when I resurrected the thread
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)
No, I do get that, and I appreciate it's an honest request, but how do you go about recommending music for someone based on what you have said? If anything will do then there is a thread where people list music they are enjoying in 2017. If not, then what?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:20 (eight years ago)
I mean you are correct. I dunno if it's my bad luck randomly trying to discover stuff or what, so in a desperate moment I clicked *submit post* anyways
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)
So you're looking for good music in the mainstream in 2017?
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)
in the *Cool* mainstream
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:34 (eight years ago)
there is no mainstream
nothing is cool anymore either
― Οὖτις, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:35 (eight years ago)
it's never the music, it's you. next.
― put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:38 (eight years ago)
haha otm
― Οὖτις, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:39 (eight years ago)
Maybe it's not intentional but from this year: Tennis, HAIM, Fleet Foxes, Jens Lekman, Slowdive, Ryan Adams and Thundercat sound like dad music... don't know about cool tho.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:44 (eight years ago)
And you likely wont hear them on the radio.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:47 (eight years ago)
are you looking for the stuff the kids like that _you'll_ like, flopsy, or are you looking for music the kids like that isn't awful? because when i think of music kids like it's stuff like danny brown, frank ocean, and that stuff doesn't mean shit to me but i'm not "appalled" by it.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)
I mean, yeah, there's lots of good stuff out there that kids listen to these days. And a lot of crap - same as it's ever been, really. You've just gotta dig a bit and stay far away from whatever radio stations are playing because they play so much crap.
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:16 (eight years ago)
Oh shit, now I'm an old guy
― skip, Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:38 (eight years ago)
The artists in the OP were 'cool' in the sense of popular as well as 'cool' in the sense of acclaimed, respected, and fashionable, but with adults in the 80s. As a kid, most of them were familiar to me via radio, MuchMusic, and the newspaper, but I did not listen to them, nor did any kids I knew, nor my parents or any of their friends. However, a cool English teacher would have been into this stuff, or a family friend who was studying poli sci. People who were listening to Fred Frith improv records were music obsessives who were only cool in the eyes of other music obsessives.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 July 2017 21:58 (eight years ago)
(Not that I knew any as a kid in the 80s)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 July 2017 22:07 (eight years ago)
conversation
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 July 2017 00:24 (eight years ago)
FlopsyDuck, maybe if you list what artists/albums/genres you're in the mood for you'd get lots of great recommendations. I don't know anything about "mainstream cool" releases myself, but personally speaking, I've been almost overwhelmed with the amount of great releases within the past few years; I'm sure I'm not alone on that front.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 30 July 2017 01:32 (eight years ago)
a good place to find cool adult music is always the soft jazz/quiet storm/grown folks radio stations
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 July 2017 01:08 (eight years ago)
when i was a kid the coolest adults i knew listened to jazz, avant garde type stuff, lots of international music, experimental shit, etc and afaict that continues to be the case.
lol i didn't meet anybody irl who listened to any of this till college
― crüt, Monday, 31 July 2017 01:49 (eight years ago)
I bought myself Kind of Blue as an 18th birthday present.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 31 July 2017 02:09 (eight years ago)
ban FlopsyDuck
― flopson, Monday, 31 July 2017 03:04 (eight years ago)
i think the answer to the thread question is Lana Del Rey
― flopson, Monday, 31 July 2017 03:45 (eight years ago)
The National
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 31 July 2017 04:15 (eight years ago)
the answer here is Arcade Fire. know multiple sets of adults aged 50 or 60+ with their last few albums.them and Mumford & Sons. these bands make parents feel cool as fuck.
― jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:12 (eight years ago)
the "cool adult" i knew when i was a kid was my uncle. he knew all the jazz, and he also listened to shortwave and knew all the world music. one christmas he gave me a tape with elmo hope on one side and don pullen on the other. one of these days i might still get into elmo hope. took me thirty years to find again that don pullen record. i was probably the only person who started listening to mingus on the grounds that don pullen used to play piano for him.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:01 (eight years ago)
When I see this thread title I think of indie pop and singer/songwriter stuff that gets covered on NPR--Waxahatchee type stuff. Maybe some alt-r&b too.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:14 (eight years ago)
Minneapolis has a whole station built around this premise, listen to this for an hour and you'll get the ideahttp://www.thecurrent.org
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:34 (eight years ago)
http://www.billboard.com/charts/triple-a
― dyl, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)
Mac DeMarco
― carpet_kaiser, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:09 (eight years ago)
This is pretty much what I think of as the contemporary equivalent, yeah.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:29 (eight years ago)