Swervedriver: Classic or Dud?

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The question has been raised. Let's dispel all the rabblerousers & get to the truth (which is, of course, that Swervedriver doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those other crap bands / movements from the UK).

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Someone on another thread called Swervedriver "the best rock band of the `90's. While I think said statement is completely, utterly and indefensibly devoid of anything even remotely resembling merit and/or credibility, it should be noted that Swervedriver's first record, RAISE, did feature two riotously rockin' tracks, namely "Sci-Flyer" and "Son of Mustang Ford" (the former amping up a decidedly Creedence-esque riff ala "Run Through the Jungle"/"Suzie Q").

Lead singer Adam Franklin's pursuing a solo career now, if I'm not mistaken.

Best Rock Band of the `90's: Cop Shoot Cop

alex in nyc, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I completely and utterly stand by my meritless and credibility-free statement. And if you want depth, compare the nine b-sides from their first three singles to the nine songs on Raise. The b-sides are just as excellent as the album proper.

Andy, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Raise was great. I will confess to having not heard anything else by Swervedriver, so I can't say if they were great beyond that first album.

Nicole, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They were a bit up and down after _Raise_, but much more up than down, so I think. _Mezcal Head_ and _99th Dream_ are both worth seeking out. Franklin's solo thing is Toshack Highway, and very enjoyable it is, but Swervedriver itself is still around, if on hiatus. A friend pointed out a *very* worthy link to me off the main unofficial fan web page, namely excerpts from the tour stories written by their drummer Jez. Hilarious writing, take a look see:

http://www.swerved river.com/rider_index.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For chrissakes will you lot PLEASE stop trying to rehabilitate the dregs of early 90s shoegazing. it wasn't a whole lot of fun at the time but picking these woeful musical scabs is a singularly depressing exercise in futility. catherine wheel & swervedriver in one day! whoever next - revolver?

cw, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Eh, Revolver had only the one or two good songs. Good taste in covering Strawberry Switchblade, though.

Anyway, what's so wrong about talking about shoegaze? What would you prefer we talk about?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Shoegazing was all things good. I will forget shoegazing when I forget the Alamo and the Maine.

Nitsuh, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like Raise (that was the LP w/ 'Mustang Ford', right?). It's pretty strong - always holds up well, as I recall, though not quite as well as the first Slowdive LP which I have on the other side of that tape, which I exhume once a year.

People who say 'Stop talking about dregs of shoegazing' should look forward to me posting on their threads and telling them to stop talking about their favourite piles of crap.

the pinefox, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sorry, i'll leave you to play with your own poo.

cw, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For chrissakes, how can you thoughtlessly throw a group like Swervedriver in with the shoegazing posse when the ruckus they raise is so propulsive and abrasive (in that nice & shiny pop fashion)? Their haze is the result of waves of lovely, gritty feedback, not from sleepy strumming.

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not all shoegazing was about sleepy strumming. Clearly, you have forgotten that all shoegazing comes from MBV who were one of the loudest rock bands in history.

I quite liked Swervedriver, even though I shockingly only have 2 of their albums- Raise and erm, 99th Dream, I think? I do have to give them props because they were one of the only good bands in the history of forever to bother playing in Albany, NY, while I was living there. And they brought Medicine with them, to boot!

Now there is a critically underrated band if I ever heard one...

Shoegazing threads, hooray!

masonic boom, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, hooray.

the pinefox, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The albums are a little spotty, but some of the tracks are classic. I bought these guys cause I was listening to shoegazing at the time, but they didn't then and don't now sound anything like shoegazing, especially post Raise. Mescal Head = almost really good.

SEEK: For Seeking Heat, Duel, Blowin' Cool, Last Train to Satansville, You Find It Everywhere, Mustang Ford

EXTRA SEEK: The Other Jesus

Blake, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic: Raise- Mezcal Head- Ejector Seat Res.

Dud:- 99th Dream

Definitely one of the better bands of the 90's

Cash Lone, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, _99th Dream_ isn't a dud. A bit tame, yes, but a bit more cohesive than _Ejector Seat Reservation_. Though I like _EJS_ more - "The Other Jesus", "Last Day on Earth", "The Birds". However, some of the songs get a bit too ... strange? ("I Am Superman" - sha la la la la la la la???!? Is a super-duper rock band actually using "sha la la"? The Bacharach quote in the title track is a nice touch, though.)

I keep on hoping for more pulp-fiction-like stories, a la "Last Train to Satansville". Never happened, though. And I still don't know what to make of _Toshack Highway_ (Adam Franklin's solo joint).

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Which Ned actually mentioned up there. D'oh-eth!

David Raposa, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i like the birds very much, but the rest of it sounds like there is a 47,000 pound weight on top of the music as it comes out of the speakers. lethargic.

keith, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...
I picked up Juggernaut Rides and I just have to state for the record that "Duel" is objectively 62% more awesome than I originally remember it being.

I especially love how you think it's going one way and then it, er, shifts gears into another song and then back again. Bonus points for the chiming major-key guitar riff in between the synth-wobbles and "I'm going down, down to the marketplace..."

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

"Do you know the way to Santa Fe?"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and the answer to the eternal "shoegazer or not?" question is no. They're closer to guys like Sundial or even the Bevis Frond.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

One last thing before I get some lunch... Videos for "Duel" and "Rave Down"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Classic first three EP's, with some other great b-sides as well. Classic albums include Raise and Mezcal Head. Is more better than worse, Ejector Seat Reservation and more worse than good 99th Dream. Truthfully I like almost everything they put out, were cool live expect the last time I saw them (out of about six) as it was at the Whiskey A Go Go and had to be a reason why they were dropped (Alan was there).

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 22 April 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah swervedriver!

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Saturday, 22 April 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

US tour dates are leaking out...

From http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/03/swervedriver_re_1.html

Henry Fonda Theatre, Los Angeles - May 31 (tickets on sale this Saturday)
Bowery Ballroom, NYC - June 11
Music Hall Williamsburg - June 12

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 March 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

Huh, was thinking about them the other day. Time to revive the old Vervediver supergroup idea if Neil and Rachel aren't busy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 March 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

First album = classic.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 7 March 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

Great group. I just loaned Raise and Mezcal Head to a friend who hadn't heard them before.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 7 March 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

CLASSIC!!!
First album would be even classier ,if re produced/remastered or whatever those boffins do.

The rest weren't bad either.

Search 'Duel', 'The Birds' - and loads of other stuff

When I was so obsessed with all those Septic bands - you know the ones- the NME and Melody Maker had these down as some GAZE band. Wrong.And I fell for it

They rocked

Fer Ark, Friday, 7 March 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

read this as Steendriver: Classic or Dud and was :(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 March 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

Mezcal Head is one of my favorite albums.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 March 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

yeah the first album really is incredible, still. a deluxe reissue with all the tracks from the first four EPs as a bonus would be ^_^

electricsound, Saturday, 8 March 2008 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

that would be perfect. they should do that with all of the albums

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)

i love how like half of juggernaut rides is bsides

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

vervediver.. rofl

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

Don't forget Ejector Seat Reservation either. Some of their best songs are on that album.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

Mezcal Head is one of my favorite albums.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, March 8, 2008 12:36 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

^

latebloomer, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

been listening to it a lot lately

latebloomer, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

Remember being at Reading, Festering in about , many years ago shunning this great band.

They were on the main stage. My trendy , snobby friends and myself- even worse -turned away, muttering 'fucking shoegazing shit' to go and watch probably somebody pointless like Heavy Stereo or Adorable in the tent.
I remember walking away thinking' What a great riff - what a tune' I can still picture the ugly dreadlocked, long haired pedal fixated tossers, flailing on the mainstage. Should have stayed. Peer pressure

Fer Ark, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

Son Of Mustang Ford rules. There was some free tape with one of the music papers that had a great demo version of that song, I played that all the time when I was 16.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)

xp i'll rep for adorable!

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

different approach, though

one thing i love about swervedriver is how jagged their rhythm is.. almost vu-ish.. mixed with all those guitar tones of various colors and textures

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

mmm

winston, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

Attention Swervedriver: Come to Seattle.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

Duel is just a great rock song. Propulsive. Their songs tend to drag on a bit longer than I'd like at times, though.

wateryDomestic, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

I'm glad to hear there's so much love here for the first album! I'm kinda surprised, actually. I've still got my autographed vinyl copy. I think I'll dig that out.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)

Hmm. The first side isn't as good as the second, methinks. "Sci-Flyer" sounds suspiciously like Ride's "Seagull" in the riff department.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 06:36 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Swervedriver and Adorable on the same bill! Though Swervedriver + Chapterhouse was a better combo. Happy days. I thought "Rave Down" was their best song.

Mark C, Monday, 10 March 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Swervedriver open for Ned's Atomic Dustbin. Odd double bill to be sure.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

First time I saw both of 'em as well. VERY odd.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

Also kind of funny to sample an anguished Kurt Cobain.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 19 February 2021 00:15 (four years ago)

I had built ESR up so much in my mind (was hard to find in the US in the late 90s) that I was kinda let down at the time lol. Love “son of Jaguar e” and “the birds”

brimstead, Friday, 19 February 2021 00:39 (four years ago)

I love how they do this escalating thing on songs like "Duel" and "Bring Me the Head of the Fortune Teller" where each successive section introduces an even more impossibly massive guitar sound. It's almost like they are constantly trying to outdo themselves in a guitar arms race.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 19 February 2021 00:53 (four years ago)

I Wasn't Born to Lose You still my favorite. '10s Swervedriver > '90s Swervedriver imo (narrowly), though I should probably take that to the controversial opinions thread.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:19 (four years ago)

That is quite challenging, for sure

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 20 February 2021 06:08 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJc1HN2PxXI

a mix between Daft Punk and Daft Punk with the swagger of Daft Punk (Maresn3st), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:48 (four years ago)

remember seeing them in St. Paul a few years ago and still don't remember a British band that dressed so American

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:50 (four years ago)

Saw them on their first USA tour that he talks about (Soundgarden/Swervedriver/Monster Magnet) which was really amazing.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:59 (four years ago)

(though he said it was 1991 but it was in fact spring 1992)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:01 (four years ago)

Yeah Swervedriver had hit America twice before that "A&M rocks out" lineup (which I saw as well) -- summer 1991 opening for Ned's Atomic Dustbin in a quick bicoastal stint IIRC then a separate tour near the start of 1992 with Ratcat opening. I saw them next on a Mezcal Head date but sadly never have seen them since.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:13 (four years ago)

The Mezcal Head date I saw them on had them opening for Smashing Pumpkins, a pretty good pairing given the Alan Moulder connection.

henry s, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:52 (four years ago)

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNH7ZngZcIo

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 15:43 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Expanded reissue of 99th Dream on deck:

https://swervedriver.bandcamp.com/album/99th-dream-2

CD1 - '99th Dream' remastered extended album
99th Dream 5:27
Up From The Sea 3:24
She Weaves A Tender Trap 3:43
These Times 3:22
Electric 77 7:36
Stellar Caprice 3:47
Wrong Treats 4:24
You've Sealed My Fate 3:53
In My Time 4:32
Expressway 3:33
Behind the Scenes of the Sounds & the Times 7:05
Why Say Yeah 3:14
93 Million Miles From The Sun (..and Counting) 3:30
The Director's Cut of Your Life 4:41
Straight Thru Your Heart 4:06

CD2 - 'Mercury Lounge' - live in NYC 14th Jan 1998
Behind the Scenes of the Sounds & the Times 6:50
Sandblasted 5:01
She Weaves A Tender Trap 3:50
How Does It Feel To Look Like Candy 3:27
Duel 5:16
99th Dream 5:59
The Birds 3:19
Wrong Treats 4:07
Never Lose That Feeling 4:35
Rave Down 6:00
Kill the Superheroes 9:35
For Seeking Heat 3:56
Duress 13:23

CD3 - 'Doremi Faso Latido' - outtakes/demos
Butterfly 4:53
Canvey Island Baby 4:56
Up From The Sea 2:54
Straight Thru Your Heart 4:00
Sciflyer97 5:41
These Times 2:44
Carousel City 4:36
You've Sealed My Fate 3:32
Sea Foam 3:17
Wrong Treats 2:46
Cool Your Boots 4:34
Electric 77 6:54
Behind the Scenes of the Sounds & the Times 5:48
99th Dream (live TV) 5:41
Wrong Treats (live TV) 4:01

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

ohhhhhh yeahhhhhh!!!

stoked for disc 3

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

I’ve always wanted to hear the faster version of “these times” that was on the original geffen promo

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:00 (two years ago)

this looks really cool, very intriguing selection of tracks

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 3 November 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

I would have included “good ships” over “93 million miles” personally

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:08 (two years ago)

two months pass...

Had a real nice chat with Adam Franklin for the Quietus for a Baker's Dozen:

https://thequietus.com/articles/33716-adam-franklin-swervedriver-bolts-of-melody-bakers-dozen-favourite-music

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:25 (two years ago)

Thanks for sharing Ned

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:10 (two years ago)

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:20 (two years ago)

Ha I did not see that particular Clash record making it, great anecdotes about Shake Appeal and the Swervies first US gig

KPH, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:58 (two years ago)

Love that Bob Mould was an early fan, makes a lot of sense

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:00 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7afNL0UGre8

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 11 January 2024 23:50 (two years ago)

Ned,

On slide 14, the italics after "The Book Lovers EP" are not closed and continue for the remainder of the entry.

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Your editor,

Stephen Q. Shasta

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 12 January 2024 00:17 (two years ago)

Yeah caught that — will pass along!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 January 2024 03:19 (two years ago)

one month passes...

The riffs on ‘Sons of Mustang Ford’ are so great. That whole first Cd is ace.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 25 February 2024 06:16 (one year ago)

First two albums including their B-sides are perfect, great stuff.

Bee OK, Sunday, 25 February 2024 19:12 (one year ago)

Proud to say I played Son of a Mustang Ford and Rave Down a lot when Raise came out in the US, on my late night show on an AM carrier current college radio station to like five people.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:15 (one year ago)

First 2 albums are classic, but I think Ejector Seat and 99th Dream are also really good.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:49 (one year ago)

I absolutely love Raise (and the early EPs) but I could never get into anything on Mezcal Head except "Duel" & "Duress" and I tried some of the records after that and they were not my thing. I feel like I may be an outlier Swervedriver fan.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 26 February 2024 03:08 (one year ago)

"Last Train to Satansville" is aces and another excellent B-side also from the second album set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0v5s8MkuKk

Bee OK, Monday, 26 February 2024 03:46 (one year ago)

"Scrawl & Scream" was available on the Reel to Real EP that was released pre-Raise (summer 1991?) iirc.

"Last Train To Satansville" is 100% not for me.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 26 February 2024 05:01 (one year ago)

I love all of it, but am an outlier insofar as I find the first one the hardest to get into.

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Monday, 26 February 2024 22:33 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Digging this Bolts of Melody album, but such a tease to bring in Besnard Lakes for such a brief appearance!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:23 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz_F8wsZtnc

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 15 December 2024 17:21 (one year ago)

awesome - thank you!

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 15 December 2024 17:35 (one year ago)

four weeks pass...

And we got new EP

https://swervedriver.bandcamp.com/album/the-worlds-fair-ep

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 15:06 (one year ago)

They also got an in depth feature/boost on Beato, of all places!!!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 15:55 (one year ago)

looks like they recorded this with him as well

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 16:31 (one year ago)

hurrah!

brimstead, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 17:15 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Did anyone else buy they vinyl of this? Received it in the mail yesterday, and it appears to be mastered at the wrong speed?

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Sunday, 16 February 2025 15:24 (eleven months ago)

Whoops ha just discovered I need a new turntable belt. As you were, everyone!

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Sunday, 16 February 2025 15:28 (eleven months ago)

seven months pass...

Belated but it was really nice to catch them again after three decades along the other night -- sadly couldn't stay through the whole set but what I caught was a treat. They have their sound and they do it very well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 17:31 (three months ago)

saw them a few years ago on a boat in bristol,
and yeah,
for all their non-showy groove,
they can still make the noise work.

mark e, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 19:48 (three months ago)

Never seen em, really wanted to this time but alas.

brimstead, Thursday, 2 October 2025 01:20 (three months ago)

whole show was great of course but "MM Abduction" was the one last night, i really don't know how they do it

moral ziosk (geoffreyess), Sunday, 5 October 2025 13:46 (three months ago)

I’ve seen them twice during their reformation era. The first time they played Mezcal Head in its entirety, just a monster album to me since I heard it in 1993/4 (and played tracks off it as a college radio DJ) when it came out.

The second time was earlier this year. I guess their tour was broken up and they’re just getting to the West Coast now?

Shocked when I saw two teen girls at the concert, everyone else was an old man like me.

Mr. T's Ballroom (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 5 October 2025 15:30 (three months ago)

Oh I had my own surreal moments like that at my show. At one point two teens or young women walked by me, one of whom was wearing a Ride Nowhere shirt, and I had an unstuck-in-time moment and then some, thinking back to seeing Swervedriver for the first time in 1991 a couple of months after I first saw Ride for said album's tour in the same venue and where by default most of us WERE teens or young adults in those kind of T-shirts.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 October 2025 15:38 (three months ago)

Seeing them tonight!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 October 2025 17:16 (three months ago)

Man, this place is empty, it's too bad no one showed up.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 October 2025 03:50 (three months ago)


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