Shuggie Bombs in Frisco... give him a break.

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For those who don't want to bother reading the review, Shuggie bombed in his '01 Comeback Special... guitars out of tune, playing the same songs twice, a band unrehearsed, irrationally attacking the soundman, etc. My question is this: Because of his absence from the scene, is he almost like an "outsider" artist? Like those old bluesmen they dug out of the hills in the 60's folk revival? Or like Daniel Johnson? And should he be given a break? Or do we just call a spade a spade and call it for what it is: a mediocre comeback that maybe shouldn't have happened?

Andy, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think of it this way -- Luaka Bop may have rereleased the album, but there was never a requirement to rerelease the guy too.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I had read this article this morning, and was stunned at how negative it was... I can't remember ever reading so thorough a panning. Since I wasn't at the show, I can't say whether or not it was deserved, but an unrehearsed band, playing his guitar without plugging it in, aimlessly walking around the stage, etc., indicate to me a man who doesn't have his act together. Maybe there's a reason he's been off the map for so many years.

Sean, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Had it been your garden variety indie band, odds are they would have been cut slack for being "charming" or "eccentric" or "complex".

Andy, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't know, though. That just sounds like bad showmanship -- although as Lookout Andy noted, that might get the Daniel Johnson fans all excited.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ned:

Please stop internet harasssing real artists and go back to yer revolver cd singles...

SHHH! SHHH!!! SHHHH!!!! SHHH!!!!!

never never land, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

*scratches head* This didn't even try to be funny. Are you all right over there?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

shhh!!!!!!!!!!!! baby ... shhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shh!!! shh!!! sh!!!!, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Cool. A full-on psychotic break.

Where's my popcorn?

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I saw geese hissing at each other when I was in the park yesterday and they make this sound: "Shhh! Shhh! Shhh!"

So maybe someone's fessing up about being a silly goose?

Nicole, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What was that monster in mythology where, if you cut one of its heads off, another one grew back? A Hydra! yeah! How did Hercules defeat the Hydra, anyway? Was that the one that he picked up off the ground and squeezed the life out of?

colin clarke, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Huh? What? Shhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shushie.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i'm the silly goose in question! hahahaha...

bored really...

doompatol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Many headed Hydra of Lake Lerna = child of Echidne (half woman half snake) and her own son Orthrus (brother of Cererus) the two- headed hound of Geryon. Hydra's sibling = The Sphinx hurrah.

Herculses cut the heads off. Hercules's assistant Iolaus laid a burning brand on the severed neck(s) when/where head was to regrow two-fold/seven-fold/hundred-fold. This cauterized the wound.

The blood of the Hydra he used to poison his arrows: with same he killed the Centaur Nessus (= raping H's girlf, being a Centaur). Nessus's blood was used to poison a shirt which H was later tricked into putting on: rather than die in Horrible Agony, he clambered into a handy Funeral Pyre and Died Everso Nobly...

Moral = haven't a clue. Greek mythology doesn't do morals. However back in NZ at art college my good friend EB dated the fellow who plays Iolaus on TV.

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

mark that was v. tragic...

are you o.k.?

do you want to reach out and touch the hand of hope??

*hand of hope*

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mark: do hydras eat brain faggots? That is the question of the day. I don't really know much about their eating habits, and I was wondering if they enjoyed this culinary delight.

Nicole, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Doompatrol it IS tragic: but it all happened a very long time ago, and everyone connected who is still with us (= Cerberus only, I think, misspelt in my post haste ha ha) seems to be OK, yes thank you for asking. I am very distantly connected, as you see: EB dated Iolaus, but that was far away and long ago and is today just a funny story to her. I never knew him: I have never been to NZ.

Nicole the Hydra ate people head to feet, including brains, I seem to recall. This was why it was considered such a pest back in the day (when there were less people and even a few less was a loss). But it ate them raw. The Gods and the Titans did not cook, because they fed on nectar and ambrosia: this important staple was only available on Olympus and therefore denied their more baroque horrible exiled offspring, who ate people because it was all they could get (or goats when they were dieting). And this is tragic too.

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mark...

*shakily gets up to leave for home*

Did your friend use the unearthly power of the hydra...to get small guest shots on british television ...

Is that...

What...

I'll have to do?

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link


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