Best snotty, nihilistic, Fuck You song ever?

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Ha ha ha....... Flipper.
Ballad of Jerry Curlan......angry samoans
i'm not a loser........descendents


Poor examples, but I need to hear more.

panico (panico), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Klaus Nomi, "You Don't Own Me"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Kinda lacking in the snot department, but the first ones that came to mind are...

Elvis Costello - "I Hope You're Happy Now"
Randy Newman - "Political Science"

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

So What

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Lesley Gore "It's My Party," obv.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Soft boys-I Wanna Destroy You

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Charles,
Insanely jealous' was pretty spot on too?

panico (panico), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

as always "you're full of shit" by the electric eels.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry........
i Didn't check. Has this Loser thread been done to death

newbie, non journo, lover of music.?

panico (panico), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

shit list : L7

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm gonna second the Anti-Nowhere League's "So What." Though I rarely like snotty, nihilistic, fuck you songs that much. I prefer heartbroken, confused fuck you songs.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking The Cure's "So What" and I was kind of confused.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I was so hip I thought it was Miles Davis's. I haven't heard the Cure one, and if that's what Seigbran meant, then I'll merely first the Anti-Nowhere League one.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"Insanely jealous' was pretty spot on too"

Yeah,I had a narf moment. "Insanely Jealous" is much in that department better. "I Wanna..." is more "Fuck Everything".

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, "much better in that department"

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"Not That Funny" (by L.Buckingham) from Tusk

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Positively Fourth Street - Bob Dylan
It's So Easy - Guns N Roses
The Real Slim Shady - Eminem

Though yeah, the Anti-Nowhere League tune is swell. Even if, compared to any number of Dion & the Belmonts songs, it's just a dumb cartoon.

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem-Without Me

Everybody sing along:"Nobody listens to Techno!"

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

And I'd take "You Stupid Asshole" or "Get Off The Air" over "The Ballad of Jerry Curlan" in the Fuck You department, but what the hell -- I'm an old coot when it comes to the Angry Samoans (whose Metal Mike sez that new song by Lizzy McGuire is GREAT, by the way.)

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beatles - "Run For Your Life"

Evan (Evan), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"You Stupid Asshole" seconded.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

are those Angry Samoan songs nihilistic?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

nihilistic is like the opposite of "fuck you" in my book

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

>>>are those Angry Samoan songs nihilistic?<<

Well, not compared to Michael Jackson, maybe:

It's too high to get over
Too low to get under
You're stuck in the middle
And the pain is thunder
You're a vegetable, you're a vegetable
Still they hate you, you're a vegetable
You're just a buffet, you're a vegetable
They eat off of you, you're a vegetable
If you can't feed your baby
Then don't have a baby
And don't think maybe
If you can't feed your baby
You'll be always tryin'
To stop that child from cryin'
Hustlin', stealin', lyin'
Now baby's slowly dyin'

Anti-Nowhere League can just kiss my ass.

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

what's nihilistic about wanting babies to be fed?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I guess it depends if you're feeding them vegetables, right?

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

What's nihilistic about just doing what punks are *supposed* to do?

That's not nihilistic; it's being a teacher's pet!


(Though I say that as an Anti-Nowhere/Samoans/Flipper fan, of course.)

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm changing my vote to "Mr. Soul" by Buffalo Springfield. Is it strange I should change, I don't know, why don't you ask her?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep...and "Garden Party" by Ricky Nelson might be in the running, as well.

chuck, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't really think 'Postively 4th Street' or 'I Hope You're Happy Now' are nihilistic either. They care too much.

'Good Morning Good Morning'
'Get Off Of My Cloud'
'Anarchy In The UK' (obv.)

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

"Siamese Twins" ownz this thread, BTW.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Anti Anti Anti by the Consumers, Angel Present by Discordance Axis, and of course Hobbit Motherfuckers.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The Only Ones - Why Don't You Kill Yourself

Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

G.G. Allin's "Tough Fuckin' Shit"...

...as covered by Beck.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

does real, pure nihilism ever get on tape or on stage?

?

does the term 'evangelical nihilism' make any sense?

gabriel (gabe), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Raunchy Young Lepers' "We're the Raunchy Young Lepers," of course. I brook no argument.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always been partial to "I Snub You" by Iggy Pop.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the monks-black monk time.

ddd, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

sonic reducer. the dead boys.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Last Caress

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Sex Pistols - "Pretty Vacant" ?

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

kid 606 - "luke vibert can kiss my indie punk whiteboy ass", definitely nihilistic and snotty!

jason m., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

'can't smile without you' - manilow

JP Albin (John Paul Albin), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

A very subtle, scalpel-like "fuck-off" song...
"Ciao!" by Lush and Jarvis Cocker.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Spot on with "Ciao!". And G'n'f'n'R's "Get In The Ring (Muthafukka)".

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

No Trend had some fine fuck-you songs (in the opposite-of-nihilistic vein, perhaps).

"Human Garbage"

You’re the darkness
You’re the ignorance
You’re the Muzak
You’re the masses
You’re the barbed wire
You’re the spotlight
You’re the shiny florescent plastic

You’re the teacher
You’re the cancer
You’re the fascist propaganda
You’re the Nazi
You’re the society
You’re the false prophet on the TV

You’re the army
You’re the anthem
You’re the death shroud
You’re the mushroom cloud
You’re the group, the institution
The defender of tradition

You’re the asphalt
You’re the concrete
You’re the cities
You’re the suburbs
You’re the cancer
You’re the parasite
You’re the new construction site

You’re the typical
You’re the ritual
You’re the average
You’re the imbecile
You’re the family
You’re the autopsy
You’re the graduation ceremony

You’re the servant
You’re the convent
You’re the lies that gain acceptance
You’re the hairstyle
You’re the uniform
You’re the law, the trend, the norm

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, besides "Ciao!", Lush also did another subtle "fuck-off" song called "Ladykillers"; which just goes to show the truly brutal lines in "Ciao!" were not (as you might have thought) penned by Cocker.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Cocker didn't write any of "Ciao!", did he?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hobbit Motherfuckers

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Cocker didn't write any of "Ciao!", did he?
Nope.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, no trend's early career was one big fuck off. and that's why i love them.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Metal Machine Music, sides 1-4.

Black Flag, "I Love You"
Palatka, "Where The Teachers Go To Learn"
Assfactor 4, "Number One Main"
Stooges, "Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell"
Men's Recovery Project, "Ronald Reagan"

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Talking Heads - "The Big Country"

"I wouldn't live there if you paid me to."

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

dead c - bad politics, baby
v3 - american face
arab strap - kate moss

dan (dan), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"Jackson" is a great mutual kiss-off tune, see versions by Johnny & June Cash, Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood. It's sorta snotty, maybe not that nihilistic? More fatalistic.


Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

GG Allin? pick any song you'd like.

rex jr., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The Wannadies: "Because" (first track on Bagsy Me). Very snotty and quite f.u., maybe not totally nihilistic.

[...]
I want
to show
the world
that I know
just how to cause
to cause real chaos
I shake and spin
I am the king
because, because and all because.

I drink and smoke
until I choke, until I'm broke
and laugh at every stupid joke
COS I WANT TO!

OleM (OleM), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

GG Allin? pick any song you'd like.
oh, i thought the thread said "most snottiy, nihilistic etc."
by no means the best. sorry.

rex jr., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Queen - "Death On Two Legs"

(it's been far too long since I've heard Flipper's ha-ha-ha)

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

THE CLASSICAL!

rex jr., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

This one

rex jr., Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem song not mentioned yet: "If I Had" (If I had a magic wand, I'd make the world suck my dick without a condom on while I'm on the john)

Bob Dylan song not mentioned yet: "Idiot Wind" (It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe)

Other contenders:
Stone Roses, "Made of Stone" (that whole album is pretty fuck-you nihilistic, really)

Bruce Springsteen, "Nebraska" (I love when he fantasizes about his "pretty baby" sitting on his lap in the electric chair)

The Beatles, "Norwegian Wood" (as bleak as it gets, and then it goes up in flames)

Lyle Lovett, "God Will" (Lyle's got the snotty fuck-you bases covered pretty well; not so much the nihilism)

Arab Strap, "My Favorite Muse" (I mean, really, Arab Strap, take your pick)

JesseFox (JesseFox), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

50 cent - "Fuck you" (he doesn't give a fuck who you are)

brains (cerybut), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Fishbone's "Warmth of Your Breath", with the chorus:

MAY YOUR DOG'S COLON BE FAMILIAR WITH THE WARMTH OF YOUR BREATH

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)

man is the bastard "i can smell your cheese"

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

You're music's shite it keeps me up all night

kayT (kaytee), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

A genuinely nihilistic song wouldn't even exist at all. (Possible candidate: the title track of "There's a Riot Goin' On")

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

New Bad things - 'I suck'
(more of a snotty nihilistic fuck *me* song but great all the same)

neil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

'Mr. Suit', New Bomb Turks version. Off their first album. TUNE

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

If You Don't Wanna Fuck Me (Fuck Off) by Jayne County.

russ t, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sunlight Bathed the Golden Glow by Felt. Especially the 12" version.

you're trying to fool somebody
but you end up fooling yourself
you're reading from "A Season in Hell"
but you don't know what it's about

That's a pretty snotty "fuck you." There's also the "I thought your poetry was, ah... sometimes good" which needs to be heard for the full effect.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(I take my suggestion back; "Siamese Twins" is heavy on nihilism and fucking, but no fuck-youing.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh Shit - Buzzcocks
Stagger Lee - Nick Cave version

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

don't stop me now - queen

schnellschnell, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm very partial to the following lines from Pere Ubu's "Final Solution" which seem to me to wonderfully snotty in a self-regarding spoilt teenager kinda way:

"Mom threw me out til I get some pants that fit/ She just don't approve of my strange kind of wit"

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

second the new bomb turks. Their version of "Job" on some single of theirs is also pretty high in the fckyou ratings.

pauls00, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

nobody's mentioned "how do you sleep?"?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

More Lesley Gore "fuck you" songs:

Judy's turn to cry
Leave me alone
Don't call me, I'll call you
I'm coolin' no foolin'
The bubble broke

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That Beck cover of "TFS" had me giggling maniacally here at work. I'd point to "Drink, Fight & Fck" as the definitive GG Allin statement on nihilism, though.

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

'wrong' by archers of loaf.

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You Got It - Mudhoney

Davlo (Davlo), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course I mean the ANL. The Cure and Miles Davis, come on...

does real, pure nihilism ever get on tape or on stage?

Don't expect anything remotely listenable, but the five Ildjarn albums come close. 1 chord, 1 drummachine pattern. Distort vocals, guitars and bass until the paint peels off. Throw in a few one chord synth drones. Repeat until you've got 70+ minutes of material. Release everything on your own label. Never give interviews.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"I Hate the Bloody Queen": The Queen Haters (aka Martin Short & Company, SCTV)

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

or 'fat' by archers of loaf...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)


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