Phil Niblock: c/d, s/d

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picked up his 'touch works for hurdy gurdy and voice' and the textures are wonderfully rich and pretty.

gimme more sez I!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 April 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"four full flutes" is good - all phill niblock stuff operates on more or less the same principle and i haven't heard any bad stuff by him, but "four full flutes" stands out in my mind for some reason. "touch works" is great, though.

your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 12 April 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

also I have heard there's a new disc coming out on the touch labe soon so keep yr eyes out for that.

anyone see him live?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 April 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Touch one is out, I saw it last night, but didn't buy it.

Excellent live, very loud and enveloping. When I saw him in Chicago, they also played a number of his films. One of which was very excellent early 1960s Sun Ra footage!

hstencil, Saturday, 12 April 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Wire's Niblock comp, 'A Young Person's Guide', is ESSENTIAL.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 12 April 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yes (to andrew l) and it's just been reissued as ypgpn on XI

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 12 April 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

(that's one of those records that i was always amazed ended up on tom's best of the 90s list, with hindsight)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 12 April 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

heh, not surprising that Tom likes him as long as you knew he liked palestine as well.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 April 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I have Music by Phill Niblock. It's nice. I saw him in Montreal and didn't really get into it. It was definitely ear-bleedingly loud but didn't have the textural depth I was expecting.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 12 April 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Young Person's Guide, seconded.

the piece 'five more string quartets' has always been a favorite too

milton, Saturday, 12 April 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

also must say I've been let down by his recent pro tools pieces, precisely due to lack of textural depth. 'ypgpn' has masterful use of analog tape saturation, he knows just how hard to drive the sound and it sounds all gauzey and unknowable, difficult to tell those were ever acoustic sounds let alone trombones. and on something like 'AYU' where he's got 39 layers of Tom Buckner's overtone singing, it sounds precisely like one person's voice cut and pasted 39 times.

any word on the new double set on Touch yet?

milton, Monday, 14 April 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

so maybe the lack of depth that sundar was talking abt above is due to niblock starting to use pro-tools then.

were the touch pieces made from pro-tools (I have to read those sleeve notes when i get home)?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 14 April 2003 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)

'touch works' sure was, yep. the one with bucker's singing and o'rourke's hurdy gurdy samples.

don't mean to sound harsh, after years of working with analog, the clarity of digital is an interesting thing to explore. very curious to hear the new album.

milton, Monday, 14 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to a Niblock concert in Chicago (at 6Odum) and it was so "demanding" (everyone sitting on the floor, utter silence was demanded of the crowd, Phil in the corner pecking at his laptop) that I wanted to kill kill kill.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 14 April 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Amateurist, was that the same one with the multiple guitar piece? If so, I was there.

Also, you should switch to decaf.

hstencil, Monday, 14 April 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
he's playing in Belgium soon, is it worth a 2 hour drive?

rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

i bet it is. i'd love to see his stuff performed live at deafening volume.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

yes! plus he's a nice guy.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 13 February 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

cool, maybe he will approve to do an interview then

rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 13 February 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

absolutely fantastic live....though, i think he was just playing a recording when i saw him, it was loud as hell and on the pretty damned decent tonic system....

and he is a damned nice guy. he'd probably do an interview if he wasnt tightly scheduled...

bb (bbrz), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

rizzx, he plays )toon) in haarlem! like conrad! and faust! see you there :))

(but yeah, try to get the interview)

willem -- (willem), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

ah willem, that's awesome news. definately see you there then

rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Went to see him last night, my ears are still ringing.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think it was loud enough!!

a, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't go - instead ate Maltesers and watched that Spore promo video. did i miss something magic?

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Lots of drones with film of Portuguese fishermen and Chinese artisans.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

We'll soon be announcing the pre-orders for Phill Niblock's Music For Cello. These three pieces were composed and recorded in the 70's / 80's and have waited a very long time to get into your ears. pic.twitter.com/fhimOiWPBM

— Important Records (@imprec) December 7, 2018

lol

j., Friday, 7 December 2018 20:43 (seven years ago)

five years pass...

live streaming now

As the longest night of the year unfolds and the journey of our planet nears the point when Winter commences in the Northern Hemisphere, Phill Niblock stages his annual Winter Solstice concert for the 13th consecutive year at Roulette, with a special twist in honor of his 90th year on Earth: 24 hours of music and film. Running from 12pm to midnight on two consecutive days, this live performance will consist of 12 sublime hours of music and mixed media film and video each day, with special guest performers interspersed throughout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mywn0XdKtA

Deflatormouse, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:55 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Posted on the obituary thread as well, but according to David Grubbs, Niblock has passed.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 January 2024 16:54 (one year ago)

RIP

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 January 2024 16:55 (one year ago)

Sadly only saw him live once but it was quite nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3anZ2MvINJQ

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 January 2024 16:58 (one year ago)

RIP. An amazing and wonderful influence on experimental music in NYC for decades. Real hero shit.

ian, Monday, 8 January 2024 17:09 (one year ago)

Goddammit, I always wanted to make it to that winter event he puts on but I just couldn’t ever make it work out — was afraid I’d get this news before I ever did. Niblock blew my mind early on when I was getting into Reich, Riley, Oliveros, etc…still one of my favorites from that general scene.

Slim is an Alien, Monday, 8 January 2024 17:13 (one year ago)

RIP, i don't know his work well but remember being impressed by young person's guide to phill niblock as pure drones

na (NA), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

RIP. The one time I saw him perform, he asked the organisers to advise the audience beforehand NOT not to wear any hearing protection. He would have been in his 80s at the time, so I admired his contrary resistance to the 'If it's too loud you're too old" school of thought.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 8 January 2024 17:22 (one year ago)

:-(

xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 January 2024 18:31 (one year ago)

maybe he's why i have tinnitus

i interviewed him in the mid 90s, heard his music in his own NYC loft-space i guess in chinatown -- it was one huge big room (huge!) and he'd staged avant-garde festivals there since the 60s, he'd built i kind of small house in the corner and lived in that. he had these amazing speakers that were somehow the shape of space invaders machines, and you walked around in among them and heard the layers of the drone change around you, like the note was the size of the room and you were the size of an atom. when we went going to eat afterwards he pointed and said "there's paik" and it was nam june paik out getting groceries or whatever

he was a nice guy, full of funny gossip about like lamonte young and whoever. RIP phill

mark s, Monday, 8 January 2024 18:38 (one year ago)

Big RIP to the guy responsible for one of my most memorable first listens to anything.

I found a used CD of Music by Phill Niblock (1993) at a record store around 2010. I was only vaguely aware of him at the time and hadn't heard any of his music, but the CD was cheap and looked interesting. So I buy it, get in my car and pop it into the CD player. "Five More String Quartets" (25 minutes). OK! I'm hit with a massive, dissonant wall of strings and am instantly compelled to crank the volume WAY up. It takes me a minute, but I intuit from the title and what I'm hearing that it's five string quartets all playing at the same time (it's actually one string quartet, and each player overdubbed their parts five times, playing different assigned pitches at each "pass"). Gradual microtonal changes in pitch are happening. I'm disoriented and feel like I'm flying through space, but somehow I can still drive. Everyone is playing different pitches at first, gradually getting closer together over the course of the piece, and by minute 24 everyone is playing the same note, which is an incredibly satisfying effect, one of the finest examples of "music as a gradual process" I know. I only had a 10 minute drive home from the record store, so I slowly cruised the neighborhood until the full 25 minutes played out. In short, a life-changing musical experience.

So check out "Five More String Quartets" if you haven't heard it, but play it LOUD if you do. Also, the CD has great liner notes with commentary from Niblock and various collaborators, as well as the score for "Five More String Quartets" which is rendered as a series of tables denoting the pitches each player is to play during each minute of the piece.

J. Sam, Monday, 8 January 2024 19:56 (one year ago)

*immediately looks for “Five More String Quartets”*

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 January 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

i'm going to need to watch 'movement of people working'

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:01 (one year ago)

his films are lovely, such as i've seen of them

i often wondered if films and music shared aesthetic or construction principles (and may well have asked him about this) but i don't think they do really

(possibly because that's what he told me? it's the kind of thing i would ask. i shd dig out the tapes of the interview and see… )

mark s, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

the wire on fb shared a dan warburton interview from 2006 where he touches on it (there's also a quote from yourself i believe at the end.). the films sound like they're very much up my alley. dvds seem to be oop though. i might have to look on slsk.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:30 (one year ago)

There was a CD/DVD edition of World of Echo that included semi-abstract performance footage of Arthur Russell that was filmed by Niblock.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:21 (one year ago)


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