dark side of the moon.

And it's not The Wall that's so hard to stomach, it's The Final Cut.

I love Pink Floyd up to and including Final Cut (and some of Momentary Lapse of Reason - but only some)..... and if it wasn't for Mr Gilmour, we'd have no Kate Bush, so that's reason enough to love them.......

I'm afraid I'm not as up on my Kate Bush trivia as I should be. Is this true?

solution: Dub Side of the Moon!

Pink Floyd I like: Meddle, Wish You Were Here, Relics, Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, Saucerful of Secrets.

Is Animals any good?

The absence of Roger Hodgson.

Totally agree about Mason, and I kind of think the same of Gilmour. He certainly wouldn't rank among my favorite guitarists. But then, I don't really listen to Pink Floyd for the "musicianship."

Actually I think DSOTM is so good as it is so self-indulgent. Self-indulgence was what art-rock was about, wasn't it?

Hell, I would have figured that everyone around here hated Animals (it one of my faves). Everyone (even the haters) owes it to themselves to listen to one high-quality PF bootleg from the mid-70s when PF was mucking around with the arrangements of the DSOTM, WYWH and Animals material.

My eyes are getting tired since it's near the end of the day for me .. and everytime I see this thread's title, it looks like "Dark Side of the Moron."

Just wanted to share.

solution: Dub Side of the Moon!

whats this? is it by the orb?

Animals is completely bonkers. I remember scanning through the Rolling Stone archives on microfiche at the U of Minnesota library and found that the illustration accompanying the (negative) review was some anthropomorphic Crumbalike '70s retro-deco hallucinogenic rendering of a giddy giraffe chick with her headphones on and Frampton paraphenalia about the room in some odd display of juvenilia-j'accuse condescencion. That image only makes the record better. I really wish it was a double LP and had some songs about badgers and hyenas and lemurs and so forth, but as it is it's pretty good, severely underrated (everywhere but here), and "Sheep" is propulsive synthfuck nightmare fuel that lots of people would be hailing as the greatest avant-stuff acheivement of pop '70s if it were done by oh say Can. (Or not; people don't seem to like late-period Can too much. But I do. So fuck 'em.)

The real ish that gets third-place love from me: Obscured By Clouds. This is like their Virgin Suicides/Made In USA turn where they do a soundtrack with lots of repeating musical themes and so forth, and if Rog and Dave didn't seem so protective of their music vis a vis copyright stuff you'd hear a sample from this record at least once a year in a mid-sized RZA or Automator-produced semi-hit. Damn does it bang. And "The Gold It's In The..." is a pop single Alex Chilton would hit his own penis with a sledgehammer for.

Ah, yes, this I'll agree with wholeheartedly. "Wot's Uh the Deal" is on this one, right?

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Santana?? BAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Nate, once again, the typo has made the coolest description ever.

Unless it's not a typo, in which case it's slightly less impressive, for some reason.

"The Wall" is still terribly overrated though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhCIECMFo6k

the shins doing "breath". how bizarre, yet not very creative..

Jesus, this record sucks.

The dub version is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better.

This revive is predicated by the Dave Gilmour & Friends thing on BBC over the weekend, which my girlfriend and I watched in horror for about ten minutes, all the while she was bitching at me to "turn this shit off". She's not normally overly vocal about disliking music, but she FUCKING HATES the Floyd.

She used to work in a record shop and through that developed a serious aversion to what she calls 'wanky boy music', which included Floys, Zep, and Hendrix. She's actually now grown to really like Hendrix, but Floyd hold the same awful terror.

And I've got to admit, I don't like them either. Ignoring the gig on TV, which appeared to be several really dull songs that consisted entirely of pained, slow verses and really long, pained, slow guitar solos AND OH MY GOD GRAHAM NASH WAS IT WHO WAS DOING THAT OLD-MAN AIR-DRUMMING AND SMILING OH FUCK AT LEAST DAVID CROSBY HAS THE DECENCY TO LOOK LIKE A MENTAL COWBOY TRAMP, DSOTM itself is just shite, isn't it? I put it on, under serious protest, before we went to bed, and just that opening lyric and its delivery, fucking hell, what complete and utter piffle. And the music! So slow and flat and boring and wanky.

Wish You Were Here and Meddle are a bit better than DSOTM, but still, PF suck. I've never listened to The Wall - just the tunes you hear on radio were enough to convince me I'd hate it. Does anyone REALLY like DSOTM, and Floyd in general, apart from middle-aged Boomers who score some weed off their stepsons and relive their youth?

Feel free to build more strawmen.

If the dub version loses all the wanky wanky lyrics, it could be fine, aye.

I hate pretty much all Pink Floyd I've ever heard, which is quite a lot, but for some reason I absolutely love the Wish You Were Here album. Weird, because it doesn't really sound that different from most of their other stuff.

i find wish you were here to be a little bit insubstantial somehow, even though 'shine on you crazy diamond (part 1-V)' is breathtaking and astonishingly good, and the title track is timeless.

i don't know maybe my point of view stems from having heard 'welcome to the machine' (not the most inspired track in the first place) about 800 times too many

still fantastic i don't care what anybody says.

It's tough to like anything when your girlfriend is ragging on it the whole time.

Every gland in my body hates this album. Horrible lite jazz-rock. Ugh, and don't even get me started on that grotesque sax throughout the album.

Also this is one of those rare moments in which I find myself seconding Nick Southall.

loved it when i was young, not so much anymore. it's a gateway drug.

Watch the Dark Side of the Rainbow paranoid mashups with the Wizard of Oz on youtube...amazing!

u crazy, T! jazz rock done beautifully, love the sax. yumm

I loved The Wall until I realized it wasn't about the searing pain I felt when Melanie Koening turned me down junior prom. Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, and Obscured by Clouds are still awesome, though. So are you, Melanie, wherever you are!

awful record

Third album I ever listened to in its entirety (after Braveheart Soundtrack and the Inner Circle Bad Boys album. I had a fucked up childhood, music-wise). I still love it, although I listened to it so many times in 11th grade I'm not sure it's necessary to spin it more than once every few years anymore. Once again, I'm not sure the haters dislike the band or the music so much as the belief among the 12 CD a year crowd that Pink Floyd are rock gods and that Dark Side is an untouchable behemoth.

I can't help thinking that if this record wasn't made by Pink Floyd, and you picked up this record on a whim in a record store for 75 cents and it was called Y INFINITY by Dawn Soldiers, you'd be hardpressed to get halfway through "On the Run" without satisfying the urge to email/call someone and let them know about your awesome find.

I've enjoyed Floyd for 20 years + and I've never liked Animals. It's like one long bluesy classic rock solo.

That's why it's one of my favorites!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNHu8AZxJmo

for anyone who hasn't seen it.

I don't understand why so many people find DSOTM to be self-indulgent-I find it to be sparse, restrained, every note just where it should be. Clean and sculpted. The album's not even all that long.

Pink Floyd is what I personally consider the best rock band in history, and its not because of Dark Side of the Moon, or the Wall, or Animals althought those are good albums.

It's Because of Wish You Were Here, Ummagumma, Meddle, and Atom Heart Mother.

I didn't like a lot of this album for a while, probably more because of overexposure than anything. I developed a newfound appreciation for Us and Them when it was used as part of the soundtrack to Dogtown and Z-Boys. There's also that surfing reference in the first song that i hadn't really caught until recently.

I had never "read" the album as Southern California music. I had always associated it with gloominess and England and the kind of imagery that was in The Wall movie.

Again, why are people so into Animals. You guys like Gilmours solos that much?

I like Animals for its uncomparable misantropy.

IMO, Animals is special not for its solos, but b/c of the interesting soundscapes and fun melodies.

lyrically, animals is really good. but typically overstated in true waters fashion. the songs are really listenable despite their length. dogs is great.

dark side is not good as background music. you need to sink into it - the musical landscapes are rich enough to allow for that. it's definitely a classic and comes together really convincingly as an overall piece. and then there's some outstanding standalone numbers on there as well ('time', 'us and them' etc.)

anyway, i don't listen to floyd much these days. but about seven years ago used to obsess.

Can't get past the awful, awful lyrics on this record and never have been able to. "Breath, breath in the air / don't be afraid to care". I don't mind nonsense lyrics but, y'know, make them proper nonsense and hide them a bit, please. Not this wishy washy middle-class hippy bullshit. Uergh.

Does anyone REALLY like DSOTM, and Floyd in general, apart from middle-aged Boomers who score some weed off their stepsons and relive their youth?

Have you been to a college?

If someone tells me how surreal it is to synchronize Dark Side with the Wizard Of Oz I tell them to try it in sobriety as a family function. This was when I was a lot younger, before I knew that my dad was a champion stoner in his day, before I knew just how much alcoholism had it's part in my family. It had never occured to me that my mom (though possibly the most straight laced of the bunch) wasn't always a Sunday School teacher.* I wish I had the capacity to express how strange and awkward this was.
But this is how I first heard the album and I've had a nostalgic little soft spot for it ever since. Apart from Dark Side and the first record I've never had much use for the Floyd, though...

*(does that read like bragging? I'm neither proud nor ashamed)

OTM about the lyrics, though.

(It seems I don't know the difference between "it's" and "its")

wow that is a bad lyric -- "don't be afraid to care." i never realized that.

i guess this album's fault is that at times it sounds a little too meaningful for its own good. or something.

But this is how I first heard the album and I've had a nostalgic little soft spot for it ever since. Apart from Dark Side and the first record I've never had much use for the Floyd, though...

a shame

So I'm told. Total lack of effort, on my part.

just buy Meddle and put it on one saturday

yeah meddle is the shizzy

^^correct usage of the term "shizzy"

hahah

meddle really is close to being my favourite floyd record though. just so compelling. and they really weren't able to match the moodiness and ethereal quality of 'echoes' elsewhere in their canon of work. ok, so maybe 'remember a day' and 'cymbaline' touched on those feelings substantially as well, but 'echoes' is such an anomaly in the floydian world. it and 'shine on you crazy diamond' are the essence of the band in prime form for me.

the 1st 4 tracks are pretty amazing

"I made a conscious effort when I was writing the lyrics for Dark Side Of The Moon to take the enormous risk of being truly banal about a lot of it, in order that the ideas should be expressed as simply and plainly as possible. . . . If you write ‘Breathe, breathe in the air/Don’t be afraid to care’, you leave yourself open to howling derision,” says Waters. People just go, ‘You fucking wanker! How pathetic is that?’ It’s very adolescent in its intensity, but I’m very happy now that I took that risk.”--Roger Waters

haha waters is way too self-conscious to leave any stone unturned

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yep, one of these days, pillar of winds, fearless are all lovely, each with an underlying dark mood.

I think Waters is actually crazier than Syd Barrett was, or at very least much more of a sociopath.

^^ this

i just listened to this whole album really loud on my klipschs. sounded awesome. nearmintfirstu.s.pressing.

I always think I'm over this album until I listen to it, particularly the 'Brain Damage'/'Eclipse' segue... not Nick Mason's finest hour as a drummer, though.