Nightcrawlers, The Creation, Mojo Men, Syndicate of Sound, Moby Grape, etc.-- C or D?

On the thread of obscure 60s psych rockers with labels named after them, The Factory are very very good. _Path Through The Forest_ and all that. But practically impossible to find.

Also The Smoke and... christ, I can't believe that I've forgotten their name. They did Neville Thumbcatch. Not The Action, but they have a name just like The Action.

I utterly *love* stuff from that 1965/6 cusp, where mod was just starting to turn a bit acidic, but was still freak beat, rather than stupid dumb acid hippieshit. There are compilations and compilations of this stuff...

Of course it's NOT, but MOST of the better known stuff, collected on the likes of Nuggets, is great. I'm really looking forward to getting the Nuggets 2 - the UK/Europe/Rest of World compilation. I'll get round to talking about some specific examples later on.

the misunderstood - I can take you to the sun. john squire's inspiration for forming stone roses....is he really playing that fast, or is it just sped up.

left banke - not sure if it's obscure but they have had the mandortary hit. rock and roll? have you heard lazy day????

the seeds v. creation

the seeds are punk rock. the creation are art rock. the seeds were dirty. the creation could play.

skip the first moby grape album and go directly to the source, skip spence's first and only album which is fantastic.

O.k....

For recent psychedelic garage rocka's....Nude Spock, you must hear the pattern. For the rock and roll is theres. May I suggest you get Wet Circuit City. I do believe that the new album is coming out soon.

the go and outrageous cherry are both prime jingle jangle rockers.

Ummmm....what else? have you heard teh swedish garage guitar rock of the hives? i'm stuck on that.

Has anyone hear heard the seeds main man's solo albums. hahahaha.a...

And good possible add the teardrop explodes to this burgeoning list of mine.

As far as obscure psych goes, my fave is not one commonly cited - The Family - but only on their first album, "Music From A Doll's House", which is *totally* ouT THeRe...

I wonder if anyone else 'ere 'as ever owned the legendary "Contact High with the Godz", on ESP-disc? I paid big money for it, like, 10 yrs ago. It sux0rs, and sounds like a bunch of stoner hippies sitting 'round a campfire & farting about w/acoustic guitars & flute. AVOID!!!!

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But they are wrong, for this fact will do fine. I believe his music SuXoR, but I have never heard it except perhaps on John Peel in 1431.

feh, as if someone who would say "sux0r" could possibly have a valid opinion. heh. really, like a few other things on ESP, it's sort of conceptual and sort of really dumb, like cromagnon's _orgasm_ (rereleased as "cave rock").

I wouldn't really call The Creation, Moby Grape, Nightcrawlers et all 'obscure' as such, either. Even after being into garage/psych/freakbeat for years, I read about stuff I've never heard of that was, like sold at one gig in belmington al. before the band got drafted etc.

"this is one area where america whups britains ass. they had the seeds (yay), we had the creation (pah!)"

Yeah, but we had 'wimple winch'

btw the band that did Neville Thumbcatch, is the Attack

US garage is often a lot rawer than UK freakbeat, I love both but I'd take Teenage Shutdown/BFTG style over Rubble. Personal taste, obv.

Re. USA v. Elsewhere tone of later posts: I was thinking recently about whether I prefer Nuggets Box I or Nuggets Box II. Box I tends to be a bit more primitive & raw w/ simpler song structure. Lots of what is essentially fast, loud blues. Box II tends to have more melodic emphasis & stronger harmonies w/ more complex arrangements & more surreal/hallucinatory lyrics. My initial impression was that Box I was much more "noisy," but repeated listens reveal that this may not be the case since there's quite a bit of super-raspy fuzz gnarl spread throughout #II. As crazy as it may seem, I'm sorta leaning toward Nuggets II at this point, but it depends on my mood. Any thoughts?

Two is less familiar, more surprises. At least at the time, that's how it felt when it came out.
I think that they are pretty evenly matched, tbh. Both contain some all time classics and a few total duds.

I'm having trouble coming up with duds. There is one sorta whiny thing [not the Timon tune which I rather like] on Box II that didn't exactly move me, and [heaven help me] I've never been much of a fan of Codeine or the Charlatans in general. Otherwise its either classic or slightly less classic in my book.