Tell me about Bill O'Reilly!

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Being from continental Europe, it is kind of hard for me zoom in on this whole Bill O'Reilly phenomenon. What does he stand for, and what is it with his stance towards hip hop? Is it the music or the culture that the opposes (if that is what he actually does). If so, what has made him such an angry man? And is what he says really all bollocks?

Please enlighten me!

Jay K (Jay K), Monday, 14 April 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This should be a good start.

My opinion of Jay-Z shot up dramatically when he said (paraphrasing) "fuck him" on Missy's "Back in the Day".

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 14 April 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

he's got rev al on like every night

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 14 April 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

corollary: who is chuck phillips

brains (cerybut), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

duh, love connection!

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

oreilly-sucks.com

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a recent thread about him on ILX.

Gangsta rap bashing is only a small part of the O'Reilly experience. He is a right-wing talk show host whose schtick is to pretend that he gives people the real, un-biased view of things (what he calls the "no-spin zone"). He likes to have left-wing guests on, and then berate them. In the rare event that his guest starts to make him look bad, he will start screaming at them, then cut their mic.

see also: RUSH LIMBAUGH

fletrejet, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

also: MICHAEL MOORE

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I had no idea there were so many small minded people here.

Bill O'Reilly is an iconoclast. He is no Rush Limbaugh, nor is he a Michael Moore. There are people out there who are capable of berating both extremes of the political spectrum, but apparently this is overlooked in this example just because this guy happens to be on a particular cable news channel.

Really, you should've seen him interviewing Rosie O'Donnell when she was pushing hard for that gay couple in FL who wanted to adopt their foster children. He totally supported her and said as much in the interview. So he's lambasted some extreme leftist views. He's also lambasted some extreme right-wing views as well.

I like the guy. He's the best thing Fox News has going for it and he and Tony Snow are the only two people in that organization I trust.

Interesting factoid: Bill O'Reilly and Peter Jennings are good friends. In fact, Jennings took O'Reilly under his wing when the latter was a reporter with ABC News in the early '80s and the former was already the anchor for "World News Tonight".

Another interesting factoid: Rush Limbaugh and Tim Russert are good friends as well. I have no idea how that happened.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Because none of the people you mentioned really believe in anything, maybe? So they just ignore their fantasy personas around their friends.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

chik! chik-chikahhhh!

I think to be fair they all DO believe things, whether it's conscious or not. For most of those guys it's some variation on "Let the Big Dogs Eat" which they've confused with savvy realpolitik for so long that everyone else believes it, too.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Russert's friends with Imus too - wtf?

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"Best thing Fox News has going for it" = best underhanded insult ever.

Catherine (Catherine), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

(underhanded) compliment, rather.

I need to stop drinking, and how.

Catherine (Catherine), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha were you just doing the Seinfeld music, Tracer?!??!

Let's put it this way, I think that in all these folks cases they would gladly sell whatever convictions they had down the river for a few more minutes of airtime if they had to.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I was doing Yello!! Seinfeld is a bit more "bik bint-da-deeeeeerng"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't express how awful it makes me feel to bring up a Harpers "Reading," but did anyone catch the O'Reilly interview excerpt in this week's? (It was the sort of worst-ever O'Reilly moment that one imagines he might even cop to it himself.)

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Pardon me, that should be "this month's."

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee is OTM. O'Reilly is just intimidatingly intelligent, and charming as hell. I like him, though I don't always agree with him.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

>Bill O'Reilly is an iconoclast. He is no Rush Limbaugh, nor is he a Michael Moore.

Fucking please. He disagrees w/ the right on a few minor issues (e.g. death penalty, homosexuality) to make him look "no-spin-ish", but otherwise he is just a tool of the republican party. He claimed to have no political party affiliation, then tried to hide the fact that he was a registered republican.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the death penalty and gay rights are 'minor issues'?!!!

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

>the death penalty and gay rights are 'minor issues'?!!!

To the people in power, yes. Do you really thing to people like Cheney gay rights or lack thereof have any importance? What they really care about are thing like lowering taxes for themselves, handing themselves defense contracts, increasing government secrecy, defunding the SEC, etc etc. They exploit xtian right issues (gays, abortion, evil music) for their own ends.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

William Joseph O'Reilly
Born: 20 December 1905, White Cliffs, New South Wales
Died: 6 October 1992, Sutherland, Sydney, New South Wales
Major Teams: New South Wales, Australia.
Known As: Bill O'Reilly
Batting Style: Left Hand Bat
Bowling Style: Leg Break Googly

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Test Debut: Australia v South Africa at Adelaide, 4th Test, 1931/32
Last Test: Australia v New Zealand at Wellington, Only Test, 1945/46

Wisden Cricketer of the Year 1935

By any measure, Bill 'Tiger' O'Reilly exerted a profound effect over Australian cricket. From the time that he began playing the game until he penned his last word about the sport shortly before his death, he was an enormously influential and respected figure.
As a first-class player, O'Reilly graced the cricketing stage over a period which spanned 18 seasons. In this time, he proved himself to be the complete wrist spinner. He bowled at close to medium pace yet delivered leg breaks, googlies, top spinners and intermittent off breaks with unerring accuracy and deception. Throughout this period, there were few batsmen who proved themselves capable of conquering either his raw aggression or the wicked spin and bounce that he conceived from his low action. No less an authority than Sir Donald Bradman rated him as the finest bowler that he had ever witnessed.

During a glittering career, O'Reilly snared a total of 774 first-class wickets at the incredible average of 16.6. No less spectacularly, 144 of these scalps came his way in his 27 Tests at the rate of 22.6 runs apiece. Yet remarkably, O'Reilly's prowess was essentially self-taught; his father was a schoolteacher who moved to different postings on a regular basis and the young leg spinner therefore received no coaching of any note in his formative years. Even in later times (as he progressed from matches in country New South Wales through to Sydney grade cricket, the New South Wales state side in 1927-28, and then the Test team itself in 1931-32), the ferociously combative and brilliantly skilful approach that he brought to his cricket remained a distinctly self-made combination.

Immediately upon his retirement as a player, O'Reilly's abiding interest in, and shrewd acumen for, the game found new expression in a role as a cricket columnist. As a sidelight to several other forms of employment, he occupied a position as a cricket correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald until 1988. Around a series of debilitating illnesses, O'Reilly still found time to express his views in more irregular commentaries on various aspects of the game until shortly before his widely mourned passing in 1992.

In recognition of his outstanding contribution to the sport, O'Reilly was posthumously chosen as one of the inaugural members of the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame. He was also selected in the Australian Cricket Board's official Test Team of the 20th Century.

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you did ask...

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the feedback! i especially enjoyed the cricket reading!

Jay K (Jay K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

O'Reilly is a blowhard. He's like that uncle of yours that likes to talk a lot and give the impression he's thoughtful and knowledgable, but actually knows next to nothing.

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

death penalty and gay rights are v. in vogue with the libertarianish right wing, no?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The latest:

WESTWOOD ONE/FOX NEWS CHANNEL host BILL O'REILLY gets himself in hot water for a remark while emceeing the "BEST FRIENDS" fundraiser for inner-city schoolchildren in WASHINGTON on SATURDAY night (4/12). While waiting through a delay in the appearance of a group of sixth- to eighth-grade boys called the "BEST MEN," O'REILLY reportedly joked "Does anyone know where the BEST MEN are? I hope they're not in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps."

After the comment stirred up some reaction in the audience, O'REILLY told the WASHINGTON POST's LLOYD GROVE: "This is ridiculous and foolish. No good deed goes unpunished. If you guys want to snipe at me, then snipe at me. This thing raised a lot of money for a good charity. Everybody was happy. I don't want to comment on anything else."

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

In a lot of ways I feel for the Bill O'Reillys of the world because it's darn near impossible to be a successful personality-based broadcaster without becoming a caricature of yourself. If you're reasonable and accept shades of gray and treat every guest as an equal worthy of respect, you just don't get the headlines.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

don't pity the rich and powerful.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

>death penalty and gay rights are v. in vogue with the libertarianish right wing, no?

Libertarians are politically insignificant - Republicans lose more by pissing of the xtian right than gain from libertarians.

To be fair, the death penalty isn't neatly a right/left thing, because Catholics are against it, and there are plenty of conservative Catholics who are therefore against it.

And no offense to homosexuals, but in the grand scheme of things gay rights (mainly, gay marriage and adoption - I am in favour of all these things) is not an important issue. Gays aren't under anything even close to the economic/social/legal oppresion that blacks were under in pre-civil rights days. Its just easy points w/ the xtian right to be against it.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

bill was a talk show host on "inside edition" , an early 90's tabloid piece of trash television show, in the style of a current affair.
mayeb he had a rebirth of sorts. i'd like to kick him in the purse

kephm, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

o god please o'reilly isnt rich and powerful. and its about fucking time someone like him has gotten his own show. i think he's smart. he makes a lot of great points. i like how all the ILM'ers hate him cos he's not some radical feminist with even more bizarre views. and two thumbs up to him for bashing the hip hop culture which is by the way the equivalent of white trash. sorry am i not being PC enough ? oops.

JP Albin (John Paul Albin), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, God knows us ILMers only give props to radical feminists (Jay Z's brand of feminism is pretty out there haha).

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yea God probly knows it as well. fuckin radicals.

JP Albin (John Paul Albin), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"please o'reilly isnt rich and powerful"

Bill O'Reilly makes $4 million a year. His views are widely disseminated and influential for a large section of the populace. Ergo, he is rich and powerful.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

and two thumbs up to him for bashing the hip hop culture which is by the way the equivalent of white trash. sorry am i not being PC enough ? oops.

1- What the fuck have you got against White Trash?
2-I'm on a mac, so it doesn't matter.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

"sorry am i not being PC enough ?"

More like not being coherent enough. Know your enemy.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

A Bill O'Reilly fan incoherent??!?!?! Who would have thunk it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. So the equation is this:
Disagree with Bill O'Reilly == U R Gay Commie PC Sheepshagging Scum
   and
Agree with Bill O'Reilly == U R Good Christian American Patriotic Master Race

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

About this Charity Bash 'bad taste joke' thing he got caught up in...

He defended himself by saying that he was a teacher in New York, whereas the truth is that he was a teacher in Florida for two years, and that was only to dodge the draft for Vietnam.

He's my hero!

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

what a fucking dickhead ...

Jay K (Jay K), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

he's always referencing Fall lyrics also apparently

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes I'm really glad I'm not an American

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes we are glad you aren't too ;)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, I'm really glad you're an arsehole too

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

;)

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks! (in the US, arsehole=supremely sexy man who rules all he surveys)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Bill O'Reilly vs Enoch Powell. FITE!

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

O'Reilly's not nearly as virulent as Powell, at least.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

O'Reilly has that same smug "fuck you" smile that Jerry Falwell always wore. Ironically enough, its the same kind of smile an old enemy of mine perpetually wore. He's probably not wearing it now, as he is in jail for child molestation.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

did you frame him coz he was your enemy?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahahahahaha. No, he became my enemy after he offered me an...um..."experience"...
one so vile I won't even bother repeating what he was offering. (I was 14 years old at the time, and he was...I dunno...40-something...if that gives you some clue what he was after.)
Anyhow, later on, I heard he got caught and was in jail.

O'Reilly's not nearly as virulent as Powell, at least.
Ohhhhh, I think that way down deeeep...O'Reilly is the same. But at least Powell had the honesty to come out and SAY it. He didn't try to hide his disturbed mindset. I prefer my psychonazi's to be obvious rather than surrepticious.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Well Enoch was considered one of the finest minds of his generation, both at university and in the House of Commons - I imagine the same has never been said of Mr. O'Reilly. Still Enoch goes to show that you can be a highly intelligent and highly idiotic at one and the same time.

Dadaismus, Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

So, It's what Ursula K. LeGuin would call "a complex form of stupidity"?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 17 April 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Moore is funnier than Bill O'Reilly. But pretty much anyone is funnier than Bill O'Reilly. I wonder what kind of music he's into? Probably some complete utter shit like those monstrous "Have We Already Forgotten" and "Courtesy of the U.S. of A." pro-war country songs. We can make whatever points we want about the liberal ideologue / conservative ideologue divide, but it goes without saying that at least the liberals have infinitely better taste in music.

justin s., Friday, 18 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom Green is funnier than Michael Moore (and hella more radical)

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Moore - noted Grand Funk Railroad fan
Bill O'Reilly - noted Fall fan

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Gang of Four vs Burzum, FITE!
Ho ho ho.

Tom Green is funnier than Michael Moore (and hella more radical)
Tom Green is a talentless jackass. Theres nothing he's ever done that a retard on PCP couldn't have thought up in half the time, and pulled off with twice as much aplomb, skill and timing.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Bill O'Reilly - noted Fall fan
Knowing this makes me strangely nauseous.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 18 April 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Where's the evidence that Bill O'Reilly likes the Fall? This seems highly unlikely. Even if he is, I don't think this disproves the general thesis that liberals have better taste in music than conservatives. There, I came out and said it. Don't give a fuck if it offends anyone.

justin s., Friday, 18 April 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Moore's an even more avowed fan of Cheap Trick, so there.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 19 April 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Custos - I agree with you re: Tom Green - but I still think he's funnier than Michael Moore (relative term), he's funnier than Bill O'Reilly also fwiw. Kadeem Hardison, however, is funnier than Tom Green.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 19 April 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Neil Hamburger is funnier than Tom Green.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone who said so, is correct: O'Reilly isn't powerful. He's influential - and that's the scary bit. The right's obedient bottom feeders' regurgitation of his talking points is the No Spin Zone's most troubling byproduct.

I will debate (and have debated) socio-political issues with a number of my conservative friends, but once they pull out the No-Spin Stick, what more can I do than roll my eyes? Haven't they anything to say for themselves? Any independent observations?

No spin, my ass. FYI: I think the title's meant to be ironic. And O'Reilly's having the last laugh(s).

nader (nader), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, O'Reilly's so wrapped up in his own cult of personality that he thinks he's a prophet or something--I'm sure he actually believes he is spouting truth, and nothing but truth.

oops (Oops), Monday, 21 April 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking as a classical liberal and constitutionalist,
Bill O'Reilly is a asshole-licking cocksucker.
He almost as bad as that orally incontinent walking
phlegm wad Rush Limbaugh.

Micheal Moore may be full of shit (especially on
gun control) but at least it's his own shit. I respect
him.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 21 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/03/off_with_those.php

WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 March 2009 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 March 2009 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha, WFMU's Ken F. was mixing a bunch of those clips into his show last week.

WmC, Saturday, 21 March 2009 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

oh jeez

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 21 March 2009 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091211/en_ynews/ynews_en1030

I just wanted to draw attention to this bit because it made me lol (and then get sorta sad):

O'Reilly went on to explain that his "beef" isn't with illegal immigrants themselves, but rather with the federal government for doing little to control immigration and the "violent aliens who wreak havoc once they get here."

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

Oh lol this is an ilm thread.

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

I liked when he had the rappers on.

US EEL (u s steel), Saturday, 12 December 2009 01:04 (sixteen years ago)

O'Reilly slammed Dick Wolf as a "coward" and a "liar" before playing a montage of clips demonstrating his past defenses of "poor people who only want a better life."

Kind of curious about this montage. Anyone have a streaming video link offhand? Does it actually exist? I imagine it will bring LOLs.

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 12 December 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

o'reilly delusional if he thinks he can to toe-to-toe w/dick wolf, whose army of acolytes numbers in the tens of millions & include myself, a dw soldier for life

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

Ice-T is very pissed off about this, at least according to his posts on Twitter.

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 12 December 2009 04:34 (sixteen years ago)


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