― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Prude (Prude), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)
I remember back in the early/mid-90s when I'd try to figure out pop songs on the piano. This chord progression worked for Green Day ("When I Come Around"), Red Hot Chili Peppers ("Soul to Squeeze"), Elvis Costello ("Thirteen Steps Lead Down"), Hole ("Miss World"), and a couple others. I also think I've heard it used in contemporary pop-punk songs like Blink-182.
The problem with progressions like that, though, is that they sound very satisfying but hardly ever surprising. So, at least as far as I'm concerned, I'm not convinced they always "work."
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
(I6 = I with the third as bass)
A chord progression I've seen pop everywhere, from 50s rock to 00s pop is the piano thing from "Big": I vi IV V back to I.
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)
C - BFlat C - BFlat (eg On Broadway, On Only Have Eyes, Move Over Darling etc.)
C - EFlat Minor - F (eg Green Onions etc. etc.)
C - AFlat (not the best, but oddly found in EVERY James bond theme)
― Jez (Jez), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)
And using an ostinato bass sequence is also a bad idea.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually, I don't think the "Air" sequence has been used a lot (except in "Everything's Gonna Be Alright"), but similar sequences have been used a lot.
Anyway, basing a song upon a chord sequence being repeated all the way through is a bad idea. A good song has contrasting verses, bridges and choruses.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Could you please give us an example of a chord sequence that hasn't been used a lot? This is pop music, after all-- everything's been done before.
In my own songwriting I've found that I enjoy throwing in I - VI (min) and VI (min) - I a lot.
― Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Most of them. Remember, you only need to change a chord or two for it to sound different.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)
It may be a bad idea from a technical perspective, but I'm always impressed when a band is able to pull it off by switching up arrangements and melodies to keep things interesting. (And by "pull it off", I mean I like the song despite the fact that it only has one progression.)
― Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
"Honkin' " is in E and he uses the minor second and the relative minor of E, C minor, quite well; and he does a cool thing by throwing in a G chord at the end of the B part so as to provide a little tension as the D natural creeps up to the D sharp (the third of B, the V chord). Kind of comic and also a little desperate, befitting the song. Also some nice touches like putting the third into the bass (G sharp/E) and so forth. "Solar" uses some beautiful major seventh chords and has a key change.
The Beatles liked to use a kinda strange progression, C-G-A, it's all over "Abbey Road."
The C-A flat mentioned above is an example of an augmented scale, which sounds mysterioso. "Green Onions" is a minor blues, basically.
― Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)
also i-VI-III-VII
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Thus, the perfect chord progression would be this one - from the start of the middle-8 until the end of the chorus on "The Riddle":
C / F / Bb / C / D7 / G / F / E / Am / G / C / D / Bb / Eb / Cm / Dm / Eb / F / G / F / Bb / C / G / F / Eb / Bb / G / F / Bb / C / G / F / Eb / Bb / C / Dm / Eb / F / G / Cm / Dm / Eb / F / G
Yes, a good chord progression is that long and that complex!
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Bflat-C-D-Eflat-F-Gflat-Aflat-Bflat
"Memory Gongs" - The Moon and the Melodies (A.K.A. Harold Budd's "Flower Knife Shadows" on Lovely Thunder)
― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fivvy (Fivvy), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
E7#9 BITCH!!! funkiest chord evah
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
The "Late In The Day" verse:
Dmaj7 Fmaj7 It's late in the day Am I'm thinking of you A7sus4,6 F Things that you say Bb F Bb F D A So long, so long for me
And "G-Song":Gm EbAs I walk into the nightF Cm BbI don't feel that my feet have touched the groundGm EbAnd I want to carry onF Cm BbBut I can't see anyone who'd take the time
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)
I fell asleep halfway through reading this. No joke. Your 'perfect' chord progression is stoopid and boring and reretarded and not even challenging at all and monkeys have fur but humans don't have much so obviously chord progression played on banjo will always be far superior to those played on guitar, simply because you're wrong.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 29 May 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 May 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Tabitha Elkins http://www.cdbaby.com/tabitha
― Tabitha Elkins, Saturday, 14 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Major 6ths don't get enough love.
― Sansai, Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― mzui, Saturday, 14 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Do you like the maj6maj7? I lurve it.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, this chord, whose name I forget.
E--3B--3G--0D--2A--3E--x
It's the opening chord in Blur's 'She's So High', and I love it.
I've got a tacky habit of always, ALWAYS hammering on a sus4 to any major chord. D-Dsus4-D, E-Esus4-E, sometimes even going A-Asus4-A-Asus2-A when I should just stick with an A. I think it's because I learned to play guitar at 12 partially though Shawn Colvin songbooks, and she used that constantly. It's become such a crutch; I guess it's my own 'style' now, christ.
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 15 August 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)
(C9)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 15 August 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 15 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Good point, yeah. (And, yes, it is very common.)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 15 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tabitha Elkins, Monday, 2 January 2006 07:55 (twenty years ago)