It seems a bit late, isn't the rave scene in the US dead?
It is interesting to see what happens in this country when a particular drug hits mainstream white heterosexual middle america.
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)
It goes a bit beyond affecting people who throw warehouse raves, Mike. It's more intended to target clubs and clubowners. It's really not a very pleasant bill.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)
it's ugly. and the ugliest thing about all this is how quiet it's been. no one knows about this.
pasted from http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/6440 -- I don't think the panic is hyperbole either.
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The Future of Live Music is on the Senate Floor
On Tuesday April 8, 2003 a Senate and House Conference committee attached the "Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act" to the unrelated and already passed "National AMBER Alert Network Act of 2003". The AMBER Alert Act is a national bill that follows numerous similar state bills enacting AMBER Alert Networks - networks set up to prevent, locate and rescue child abductees. The National AMBER Alert Network Act has been passed and is now in Conference.
The Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act was attached to the AMBER Alert Act as section 609, and is not related to child abduction. The Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act is almost identical to the "RAVE Act" that was introduced but not passed last year. The act would allow concert promoters, club and stadium owners and event organizers to be prosecuted for the use of illegal substances by those attending an event - even if they try to keep the event drug-free.
The act could cause thousands of business owners - promoters and club owners for instance - to face up to 20 years in prison and $2 million in fines for the use of drugs by people attending their event. Opponents of the RAVE Act believe it could have a potentially dramatic effect on the live music industry. Because of the penalties involved, many promoters and club owners may decide it's not worth the risk to promote and host concerts and shows.
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) introduced the act as an add-on to the AMBER Alert Act after it had already been unanimously passed in an effort to sneak the RAVE Act into law without putting it through the regular legislative channels. The RAVE Act was not passed last year, but if action is not taken NOW, it could become law upon the back of the unrelated and benign AMBER Alert Act. The National AMBER Alert Act is still in Conference, it's not too late to have section 609 removed.
― milton, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)
How very very upsetting. Makes me kinda sick, actually. And all because cartain men are afraid of their daughters going out and feeling all... *good.* Too sexual. Makes them uncomfortable.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)
well, shit, if it's an acronym ya gotta vote for it!
this is pretty damn unfortunate - the language in this idiotic bill is so broad it could be used against just about anyone, anywhere, for any reason. who introduced this? biden? did neil kinnock write it first?
― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
'...stadiums...'
wtf ? i like to see how you would
prosecute the owner of a stadium !!
on what basis ?
one spliff end found on the floor ?
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)
>it's ugly. and the ugliest thing about all this is how quiet it's been. no one knows about this.
Fog of war, fog of war.
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)
How very very upsetting. Makes me kinda sick, actually. And all because cartain men are afraid of their daughters going out and feeling all... *good.* Too sexual. Makes them uncomfortable. what utter crap. yes, the RAVE legislation is typically ridiculous, if not disturbing, overreaching in Ashcroft America (though this is from Biden, wtf; I know he's down with more kids than most Senators, but really). but to deny that this is an attempt to respond to major increases in ecstasy use in America and to deny that there is serious science backing up its being a problem is to lie.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)