Yr best & worst support-band experiences,please, folks

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As per thee question. Pleas be as RUDE or as GUSHING as you like...

My best were the cocteau twins circa "peppermint pig" supporting, would you believe it, Orchestral Manouvres in the Dark, who were just great, and Mudhoney, supporting Snc Yth, who rocked harder than any band I've seen, and blew Thurston & co off stage.

My worst is the senseless things, who I've seen loads of times, without ever wanting to. Mudhoney, The Buzzcocks and the Darling Buds are the three main acts I can think of, and I'm sure I suffered through then on at least 2 other occasions. Also, and sorry to say this, was Felt, who supported the Cocteau Twins. I was really looking forward to them, because I liked some of their records, but live, they sux0red the big one. They gave me a headache, which is a unique occurence to date.

Your choices...?

Norman Fay, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ha ha, Sonic Youth! Every time I've seen them, the support band killed them! Nirvana left them for deadest, and I didn't even know who they (Nirvana) WERE at the time!
I thought they would turn the tables when they infamously opened for Neil Young, but even the sight of 10,000 tortured, cringing CSNY fans (my idea of heaven!) didn't redeem them, because Young was even noisier and more anarchic than SY were!

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

worst: Built to Spill: singer obviously a stuck-up misanthrope, although quiet funny after a while because he seemed so desperate in his loathing for everyone but himself. Whiny voice: "now were going to play another little rock song for you.", enter another Zappa-esque contraption.

best: hey, Sonic Youth get blown away by support-act shocker ;) This time 1990 by Babes in Toyland. Didn't have any clue who they where at the time. Girl in red dress carrying too big a guitar walks to microphone. She obviously hasn't slept in days, looks like she's on heroin. Opens mouth: starts screaming song after song. Mouths drop wide open. Sonic Youth were so...passe after that ;)

Omar, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Tarden you should see 'em in NZ, they always get someone like the Dead C.

duane, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

When Royal Trux opened for Teenage Fanclub I tried to make it as OBVIOUS and PUBLIC as possible that I was leaving before the headliner appeared.

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Weirdest audience reaction - By Coastal Cafe opening for Daniel Johnston, and the Johnston fanatics I was with hated BCC for being 'amateurish'!

tarden, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

nirvana opening for the violent femmes was a great night; bad ight hmm, bonnie rait opening for bob dylan

Geoff, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Joy Division opening for The Buzzcocks 1979 = best. The Smiths opening for SPK (!) and Howard Devoto = next best (off the top of my head).

Dr. C, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll omit the awful local bands.

Good: GYBE! opening for Sonic Youth (I see a pattern), the Shins (Modest Mouse), Cibo Matto (Beck), Spiritualized (Radiohead), Low + Labradford (GYBE!).

Bad: Stereolab (Sonic Youth. Hey, they're better than someone), Teenage Fanclub (Radiohead), Atari Teenage Riot no-showing and the Cardigans playing an extended set instead (Beck), Biz Markie "DJing" (Beastie Boys).

alex in montreal, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I remember when The Soup Dragons opened for INXS. The lead singer got really pissed becasue no on ewas dancing. He was angrily yellin g at us as we sat bored. It was pathetic. I hate the soup dragons. Also, when Primus opened for u2 all I heard was a bass drum thumping for a half hour. I can't really think of any good openin g acts I've seen. I hate openin g acts.

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Panasonic opening for Suicide at the Garage 4-5 yrs ago - they were SO loud, single-minded and nasty that they put Suicide's retro cabaret act to shame. Only time I thought the doors in the loos might fall off their hinges, they were shaking so much from the racket.

Sonic Youth must've learnt their lesson - saw them last year supported by Porcupine Tree, a jaw-droppingly dire mod-prog outfit. The Yoof did a greatest hits set and rocked the house...

Andrew L, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Seen some great ones over the moons -- things like L7 and Redd Kross opening for the Butthole Surfers, Spiritualized opening for the Mary Chain, Siouxsie and Radiohead (three separate shows!), Edward Ka-Spel essentially opening for himself (and the rest of the Legendary Pink Dots), Nine Inch Nails for Jane's Addiction and in later years Bowie, Radiohead and Moonshake for PJ Harvey, Labradford for Godspeed, Babyland for Sheep on Drugs, etc.

Worst -- oh god, the memories. Okay, most inappropriate, without question -- some bunch of art-industrial fuckups called Tunnelmental who opened for Mark Burgess and the Sons of God in the mid-nineties. Jesus Christ. If I had had rocks, they would have been thrown.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hey, Porcupine Tree = cool. Helps that I'm a No-Man addict.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Does it count if you went *specifically* to see the support act (saw Baxendale supporting Webb Brothers, left halfway through Webb Brothers, actually, saw Baxendale supporting a few bands whose names I can't even remember. Saw Ladytron supporting Soulwax, left halfway through Soulwax. Went to see Muse under the false impression that Life Without Buildings were supporting, turns out they weren't. Left before Muse even came on)

Other bad ones: Starsailor supporting Angelica. Almost every band to have supported David Devant ever except Ricky Spontane. YY28s/Dum Dums supporting My Life Story

Good ones: Marine Research supporting godawful Venini. Marine Research supporting Quasi Mark Eitzel supporting Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon appearing embarrased at the order of the bill) Stars supporting Baxendale

jamesmichaelward, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Marine Research supporting Quasi Mark Eitzel supporting Divine Comedy...

Of course, there should really be a full stop between 'Quasi' and 'Mark Eitzel' because other wise it's almost as if I'm making some dig at Mark Eitzel

jamesmichaelward, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Almost every band at All Tomorrow's Parties 2000 and 2001 could count as a support band, and almost all of them were terrible. Examples: High Llamas - Autechre - Delgados - Stereolab - Broadcast - Lambchop - Boards Of Canada - Yo La Tengo. Almost all of the headliners were terrible, too. Examples: Super Furry Animals - Gorky's Z Mynci - Tortoise. Only exception I can think of: Television.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I saw Iron Maiden, and the opening band was Ace Frehely's post-KISS piece of crap called "Frehley's Comet". Somewhere along the line I saw LA Guns, I don't remember with whom they played.

tOM p, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Guided By Voices opening for Urge Overkill.

I still remember the feeling of pure exhileration when then played 'Striped White Jets' and 'Motor Away' The sullen Pulp Fiction fans didn't have a clue what was going on, as all the GBV fans floated far above them on waves of rock-out bliss.

Apparently, GBV got beat up after the show by Urges roadies who were afraid that Pollards drunken antics would damage their equipment or something. The guy in the cloak room told me this as I was leaving, so take it with a grain of salt.

Oh, by the way, what is Urge Overkill up to lately?

GBV!

Alan Hunt, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Best: First time we caught Neko Case opening for the Jayhawks (left the Jayhawks 1/2 way through because we didn't want to ruin it) Worst: Pleeeasaur, a completely self-indulgent, insane local one-man act that opened for IQU a while back that was painfully bad. (On second thought, i think that was the point, so file it under good as it was pure spectacle)...

Jason, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Good: the Chesterfield Kings (opening for the Hoodoo Gurus)

Bad: there are no bad supporting acts for without them I wouldn't have time to get drunk for the main event. Let all of Christendom hear me speak!

Steven James, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Almost every band at All Tomorrow's Parties 2000 and 2001 could count as a support band, and almost all of them were terrible. Examples: High Llamas - Autechre - Delgados - Stereolab - Broadcast - Lambchop - Boards Of Canada - Yo La Tengo. Almost all of the headliners were terrible, too. Examples: Super Furry Animals - Gorky's Z Mynci - Tortoise.

Pinefox, in that case why were you at ATP?

I'm not saying this in some sort of snide or sarcastic way, I'm just wondering why you spent your time and energy on ATP if you disliked so many of the bands appearing there. Or was it a case where you weren't familiar with the most of the bands' music until then?

I have seen so many terrible support acts no single one even springs to mind. Most of them stand out as being so terrible, it's remarkable when I do actually see a good one.

Nicole, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One of the best opening bands opened for Billy Bragg years ago. I cannot remember their names. They were a mix of Red House Painters, Lou Reed and Tindersticks. Fucking Fabulous.

The worst, the absolute WORST was MTV personality Jesse Camp who opened for Alice Cooper. What crack smoking, cock choaking record producer thought it was a financial move to hook this moron up with a contract? Awful on stage banter, awful songs, awful singing. No one applauded after the first song, by the second he was getting heckled and he had no good comebacks. Did i mention it sucked?

Cash Lone, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nicole: I wasn't at ATP cos I liked those bands. That much is for sure.

Why was I at ATP?

April 2000: was playing at a pre-ATP event and a spot came up the night before, to hang around with a bunch of Scots. It seemed like an adventure. Awfulness of the bands didn't detract much from the overall fun. Thus, went in 2001 too. Didn't think the line-up could get any worse: it did. But, not to be underestimated: the grim pleasure of realizing how godawful contemporary bands are.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hmmm, this is easy.

Bests: Pixies B4 Muses, Ultra Vivid Scene AND Pixies before Mary Chain, Pulp before St Etienne, Pavement before Sonic Youth (and me 'n' Huggy Bear before that), Stereo Total before Nick Currie (who was also good, but then they ARE the best band in the world), Cornershop before Blur. Nirvana before basically everyone.

Worsts: Phranc before Smiths, anyone before Prince, anyone before The Cure, anyone before Orbital.

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I heard PJ Harvey opening for U2. In fact i paid the U2 prices to see PJ. I got up to leave after her and this secuirty guard asked where i was going . I told him i really did not pay to see U2 and he said i wasn't allowed to leave . I was forced by Saddledome Security to endure U2. In fact i snuck out at intermisson.

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Pinefox, you should have caught sets by Plaid, Laika, Pram, Atmosphere, ES-P and Sigur Rós because they rocked a mighty "phat" one.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I did see Sigur Ros. They were pretty average, though I think they wound up with an OK but uninspired instrumental run at 'Turn Turn Turn'.

the pinefox, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Best: Green Day on before Silverchair at a festival. Green Day did an incredible set and then proceeded to kick in / kick over most of their equipment in a highly amusing fashion. Then Billie Joe came out with a monkey mask on, played ten minutes of guitar noise or so while Trey set his drums on fire. They leave the stage again, Billie Joe comes out and sings Time Of Your Life acoustically, and leaves for Silverchair to come on. What chance did they have?

Worst: Arab On Radar made complete fools of themselves opening for Melt-Banana. They tried so hard to be tough, difficult, abraisive, and looked like a bunch of underpaid civil servants throwing a tantrum. Then Melt Banana came on and made them look even worse by playing one of the better sets I've ever seen.

Dave M., Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stereo Total before Nick Currie

Yeah, I forgot about that one. But when I saw them, it was the other way round. Momus opened for Stereo Total. Not sure if they're the best band in the world but they are pretty damned cool.

jamesmichaelward, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

my first concert ever was motley crue who were supported by the incredibly crap Loudness(some dreck metal band from Japan). phranc opened for morrissey the one time i saw him, one of the saddest nights of my life. the good? uh 3ds opening for pavement, slowdive opening for ride, lush opening for ride, but those last two were more co-headlining things i think, house of love opening for catherine wheel although they had to follow the mighty ocean colour scene.

keith, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The 'mighty' Ocean Colour Scene? You're a brave soul, I think you're the first person I've heard about in a long time who honestly likes them. ;-) I actually do have that long-ago first album kicking around somewhere, before they decided to become Paul Weller's toadying bumlickers.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One of my flatmates when I used to live in Manchester, and when I was still at university and my life still had direction, was a huge OCS fan.

I lived for two years with an OCS poster in my front room and I didn't once even try tearing it down.

jamesmichaelward, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Good: Mercury Rev before Ride, Pavement before Sonic Youth and Moonshake before PJ Harvey. Actually, the last of those was pretty much life changing, so good seems like a bit of a restrained way of putting it.

Bad: Coil before Sonic Youth (same gig as above), 45-60-75 before Pere Ubu.

Pinefox, that was Papa M not Sigur Ros at ATP 2000.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That Riverboat Song thingy by OCS is ace...

Dave M., Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh - in that case, Sigur Ros are even worse than I thought.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i second richard t's mercury rev before ride. and add disco inferno opeing for sonic boom. and medicine opeing for, dam, i forget, some cathal coughlan nonsense. and mercury rev opening for spiritualized. and boards of canada opening for autechre. slowdive opening for the cranes. aerial m opening for mogwai.

worst: thurman opening for the fall. oasis opening for verve. embrace opening for spiritualized.

gareth, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Best: Oasis opening for Neil Young in Paris last month... Kevin Tihista supporting Kingsbury Manx... Ride and the Las supporting Oasis in Brighton.

Worst: The Legend supporting Beat Happening in Edinburgh was a fairly clear case of moving from the ridiculous to the sublime.

As you may have guessed, I too like Ocean Colour Scene.

Andrew Williams, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, and Richard, are you sure it wasn't Cell (not Coil) who played with Sonic Youth & Pavement? Bog standard City Slang/Sub Pop kinda band... they were pretty bad, either way. Sonic Youth were once supported by My Bloody Valentine in Edinburgh, before I was allowed out to play, now that would have been a gig and a half...

Andrew Williams, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

grandaddy opening for elliott smith

ed harcourt opening for the doves

of arrowe hill opening for cosmic rough riders..

I like it when thought goes into the bill and teh support act isnt an afterthought...

I, as well, enjoyed Ocean Colour Scene's proper first album (Mosley Schoals) went a bit wrong after that.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

would you care to explain, doompatrol23, why the eponymous debut album by Ocean Colour Scene wasn't proper?. It had "Sway" on it, after all. It's interesting that Alex thought that Sonic Youth were better than Stereolab, when I saw them in the Warehouse in Toronto last June (same tour I assume) Stereolab were tons better.

But I agree with Alex about Teenage Fanclub supporting Radiohead, although this had something to do with the venue I think - the Fannies sounded kinda wimpy and lost playing "the Concept" in the Birmingham NEC.

MarkH, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

the first album was fay, twee and light weight baggy/shoegazing music.

the second album rockedlikeasumofabitch with dub sound effects.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I thought of another couple of good ones: Johnny Thunders supporting Hanoi Rocks. We left after 3 HR numbers. Apparently we saw J.TH. on the only time he got booked to play in newcastle, and didn't blow it out, and on one of the rare occasions where he rocked. It was one of the best gigs I've ever seen.

Mouse on Mars supporting Stereolab. Both bands were great, and it was just a thoroughly enjoyable night all round.

I saw a bunch of metal bands in the '80's, and they would invariably have a desperately awful & hard to endure support. I can't remember any names though...

Norman fay, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

NaPaLM PauL SeZ:

the first album was fay, twee and light weight baggy/shoegazing music.

Excuse me. The correct spelling there is fey. Please don't bring my name into any discussions of ocean colour scene, thank you very much.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Damn, you're right, of course they were called Cell. That wasn't jsut a mental slip, either. I've been convinced that they shared a name with the post-Throbbing Gristle project for years now, and only now have the scales been removed from my brain. Thanks.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

and, as remembered on the ylt thread, yo la tengo supporting stereolab

gareth, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love it when support bands blow their headliners off the stage- French Kicks or Life Without Buildings and The Channel 6 supporting The Strokes spring immediately to mind. The Dandy Warhols supporting every washed-up Britpop casualty across the States in the years 97-98 also spring to mind. (Key offenders were probably The Charlatans, I believe I left halfway through the show.) I guess that's why they always have such crap support bands now...

masonic boom, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I wouldnt classify spiritualized as crap! dandys/spiritualized bill wsa fuck off fantastic!

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

sorry norman....come out of the house and leave mother alone for now. she's tired.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The Dandys were kicked off the Spiritualized tour before I saw it, my dear. They were booked to have played the Best Show I Never Saw together at the Supper Club, but alas, alack, they just couldn't get along, and I saw Spz play an hour long version of Cop Shoot Cop with added jazz piano to try and make up for it.

masonic boom, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

|\|aPaL/|\ PauL 53Z: sorry norman....come out of the house and leave mother alone for now. she's tired.

baffled silence from thee north east ov england

faint sound ov head being scratched....

xoxo

Puzzled ov NEWCASTLE, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh my....bit abstract today Norman.

Please ignore it's lack of sleep/drunken argument/big brother doing my head in.

here is another one:

went to see cosmic rough riders and really enjoyed of arrowe hill.

the worse was seeing the verve in 1995 and having to sit through change of heart (predictable canada husker du cover band).

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ah now...

Best support acts:

My Bloody Valentine supporting the Mary Chain (it was Rollercoaster, MBV were so good I walked out because the J&MC couldn't beat them)

A Guy Called Gerald supporting A Certain Ratio, 1988, Sheffield Leadmill. So groovy that the audience got them back on stage to play "Born in the North", which they'd performed on Tony Wilson's TV show the week before.

Broadcast supporting Stereolab, 1997. A perfect combination.

Submarine supporting Moose, 1994. From loud angst to gentle happiness in one gig.

Tse Tse Fly / Moonshake supporting the Wedding Present, 1992. Moonshake were awesome, and their intro tape of "Rucksack" (Kraftwerk) and "Negativland" (Neu!) was cool too.

Slowdive supporting Ride, 1991. Another perfect combination.

Worst support acts:

Edward Barton supporting Stump - 1988. For those of you who don't know who Ed is / was (is he still around?), he was an Mancunian legend who basically made his own instruments out of wood, beat himself over the head and sang songs about chickens or something. Used to appear on the Tube from time to time. Also wrote the aforementioned "Born in the North". Also designed the infamous James t-shirt with the name spread across the sleeves. Basically his act that night was to be abused by the audience and shout about gob boxes.

Kerbdog supporting the Posies, 1996. Kerbdog were an Irish grunge band who were crap. But the funniest thing was the audience completely ignoring them and staying as far from the stage as possible, except for three kids who were moshing furiously into each other in front of the stage. Hilarious.

Rob M, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Norman re:dodgy metal support bands in the 80's - I have one! Bronze (or should it be Bronz, it should have an umlaut anyway) supporting Hawkwind. The lead singer had a great,great name - Max Bacon!

Dr. C, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i was being sarcastic when i labeled ocean colour scene "mighty", though that was before they turned dad rock and they were not as horrid as i imagine they would be today.

i agree with pinefox papa m's only decent tune when i saw them open for stereolab was a cover of a byrds song, how sad.

everyone who ever had anything to do with slint really should be shot has there been any other band that has inspired more misery than them, not likely.

keith, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I should introduce you to my friend Marco. You can wish death on Slint-inspired types together.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Worst: Gold Blade, Bette Davis and The Balconettes, Creeper Lagoon...

Best: surprisingly Kings of Convenience

james e l, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Was that the Momus / Stereo Total show in London on 26th February 2000, Suzy? Me and another ILM-er had a wonderful night there, before the fall ...

Robin Carmody, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Best support act/s (maybe best line up):

Stereolab/Drive Like Jehu/Prolapse/Flying Saucer Attack, Camden Electric Ballroom, London, 12th July 1994

pophatte (admrl), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link

tUnE-yArDs supporting Dirty Projectors in Whelans in 2009. Two incredible performances.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link

Chrome Hoof supporting SunnO))) at Jarvis cockers meltdown in the royal festival hall.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:26 (five years ago) link

Best not worst.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:26 (five years ago) link

Centro-matic opened for the Afghan Whigs on a few dates when they got back together, and it was the best Centro-matic show I saw. I think there was a bit of a band there, Afghan Whigs certainly returned the favor.

Like whoever is opening for Yo La Tengo is my worst-whatever leg I seem to catch them on the opener is invariably Happy Flowers or similar.

campreverb, Sunday, 4 August 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link


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