Are the Police worthy of making a reunion?

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While most bands give a hint of a final farewell or departure, The Police are one of those bands that kind of left out of the backdoor on the top of their success. The last time they played together was Sting's wedding in 1992. It seems that Sting's wish to hold on to a Police legacy holds them back from reuniting. Now granted, his solo career is flourishing and a new album might seem ackward. But why not another tour of some sort. The Police were especially known for constantly touring and unlike other bands (Pink Floyd, Stones, Beatles, The Clash), they don't seem like they would be out of place doing more concerts. They are all younger than most rock veterans and I would go considerable lengths to see a show by them. I really like most of their songs (what other band successfully pushed a pop/reggae mix) and would certainly want to see them play once more. What do you think?

Luptune Pitman, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It seems far too late for that, I'd say. What always struck me strange about the Police's break-up was Sting's oft-documented need to branch out beyond what he was pigeon-holing as the trio's "standard rock format".....so he does, only then to latch onto a drab adult contemporary format that would seemingly feel just as confining (if not more so, given the comparitively limited skills of his glorified sessioneer bandmates). There could have been a point where the revisited their former glories with dignity intact, but it wouldn't make sense this many years later, I don't think.

alex in nyc, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The thing about Sting is that he'd probably deny any accusations of being an adult contemporary artist. I saw the godawful South Bank Show doc on him (50% of which was illustrated with grim shots of Sting doing yoga) and he was constantly emphasising his role in exposing unusual musics to a more maintstream audience. So it would seem that he genuinely believes he's doing something adventurous, even if no-one else does.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sad thing is, when you think of most of his potential audience these days, he's exactly right. Of course, most of the pop audience hears more technically adventurous stuff all the time...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think it would be funny if Sting got stung. By a wasp. Or his accountant!

DG, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

he is "exposing unusual musics to a more mainstream audience" by the brilliant device of DISGUISE!! Who would suspect such subversion!!

Yoga = kewl, but *emphatically not* a spectator sport.

[Esp.when I suddenly recall what precise practices Sting is teaching himself w.it: he didn't use the infamous "elephant's trunk out-door-as-an-in-door technique" by any chance, did he?]

mark s, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

he can keep going for hours, you know.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sure, I'd go see a Police reunion tour, but I wouldn't expect too much. I saw Sting talking about the wedding gig on his VH1 Behind The Music and he said that two seconds into the number, all the musical problems came back - Stuart was speeding up a ton, and listening to live stuff, you can tell it really was a problem.

It has to be noted that the people Sting plays with now are much, much better musicians, especially the first band he had with Branford Marsalis and Kenny Kirkland. I like the Police better as a band, but any of Sting's musicians could wipe the floor with anybody in the Police.

If the Police got back together, it'd probably sound like Ten Summoner's Tales. That wasn't really a world music album, it was just a little overproduced. Take half the reverb off and listen to what Vinnie Colaiuta's doing on songs like "Saint Augustine in Hell", it's very Copeland-ish and pretty interesting to boot. The same can't be said for his new record, unfortunately...

Dave M., Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"but any of Sting's musicians could wipe the floor with anybody in the Police": wipe the floor in every sense except actually making remotely non-awful music with him. Because I am a fair man I blame the paymaster rather than the peons...

mark s, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll pay for this reunion not to take place.

Omar, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"but any of Sting's musicians could wipe the floor with anybody in the Police."

Big Load o' crap! Are you implying that the yawnsome jazzbo sessioneers currently on Mr.Sumner's payroll have even half the chops -- let alone style -- of Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers?

alex in nyc, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Of course not. They have more. I don't know who's playing with him on the new record, but Ten Summoners' Tales had Vinnie Colaiuta on drums, for a start. Go find some old Zappa records. Also, the Branford Marsalis / Kenny Kirkland band... just get one of Branford's solo records. I'm a big fan of "The Dark Keys" trio record without Kirkland. But anyways, I think as Mark said, if the records suck, only Sting can really be blamed.

Dave M., Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Let the dead rest. When I saw Joe Strummer with the faux-Clash touring band last year...don't get me wrong, I love the man but... eck. What's gone is gone.

Mike Hanley, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

They did reunite in 1986. They neutered "Don't Stand So Close to Me". If you want more of that shit, by all means, keep on pining.

I'm with Omar, though. The Police are one of the most overrated bands to ever crap on the global music landscape, and I only wish Sting had enough humility to just shut his pretentious overexposed yap and make movies or baskets or something less obtrusive. (Though I'm still astonished by his contribution to the _Leaving Las Vegas_ soundtrack, in that he sounds like he's SINGING. Blessed be our Lord, he was SINGING. And it was GOOD.) (And he does have talent, the shit.)

David Raposa, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

no.

gareth, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nope, but since when has that stopped far worse bands (the Eagles, for example) reforming? Sadly they all reform in the end, however much you might want to see the back of them.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Reunions themselves the most milqtoast gesture for any band, a comeback tour would be especially vile...

Jason, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

five years pass...
The time is nigh.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't remind me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

this band was shit

roger goodell (gear), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

They're rehearsing down the street from where I am right now.

everything (everything), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

and my friend just told me he's willing to pay $200 to go see them, which is just daft.

everything (everything), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Would this be happening if Sting's lute album didn't tank?

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, Sting prolly heard Rondellus's Sabbatum but couldnnae quite get teh hang of it! ;)

tiit (tiit), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Sting would make much better music if his collaborators where particularly lacking in virtuosity.

I've not been an ardent follower of his career curve, but his one unique talent (for short, sharp melodic guitar hooks) is best served by simplicity.

He could then get back to producing the harmless but memorable background pop that he was surely put on this Earth to produce.

Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Sting would make much better music if his collaborators where particularly lacking in virtuosity.

I've not been an ardent follower of his career curve, but his one unique talent (for short, sharp melodic guitar hooks) is best served by simplicity.

He could then get back to producing the harmless but memorable background pop that he was surely put on this Earth to produce.

Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Police '07 vs Van Halen '07

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The last time they played together was Sting's wedding in 1992

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Police '07 vs Van Halen '07

Police do at least have the original lineup.


Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) Hall of Fame Induction, no?

As a reunion it makes a lot more sense than most others. The Police material always had a kind of nerdy / adult vibe (as opposed to rebellious, youthful, or self-important, which can be so unbecoming on 50 year olds). Plus, you're practically gauranteed not to hear any solo Sting material! I want to here these guys play again. The whole is definitely more than the sum(ner).

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

On a related note, I'm1/3 of the way through Andy Sommer's new memoir. Loving it! The man writes extremely well. And his story is pretty cool, too. It's so much more than a mere policeman's recollection. A highly evolved report of cultural continuum from an agent deep inside. Up there with Dylan's 'Chronicles', IMO.

Particlewave (particlewave), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

1st paragraph of amg review of the lute album

Casual pronouncements are made every so often that the lute songs (the lute is a plucked stringed instrument, an early cousin to the guitar) and madrigals of Elizabethan and Jacobean England were the popular music of their day. And Sting, who alludes to the likes of Vladimir Nabokov in his lyrics, is hardly uneducated in the legacy of fine arts, and he has a certain cerebral, inward sadness that matches the dominant mood of English music around 1600 well enough. Thus some might easily have thought it would be a short leap from Sting's own music to the lute songs of John Dowland (1563-1626). But the leap is anything but short, and Sting gets credit for having thought out fully the problems in making it. It is not just the issue of what pianist Katia Labèque, one of the classical musicians who introduced Sting to Dowland's music, called his "unschooled tenor" — Dowland's songs are not really difficult. It is the great divide between rock (and other traditions ultimately rooted in Africa) and the European tradition: speaking in generalities, the former prizes "noise" — sound extraneous to the pitch and to the intended timbre of an instrument or voice — as a structural element, whereas in the latter it is strenuously eliminated. Sting's voice has plenty of "noise." The listener oriented toward classical music will object to its being there; the rock listener, noting that Sting is singing very quietly, may wonder why there isn't more of it.

a.b. (alanbanana), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

um... yeah.

on another note, sting is a pompous jerk whose entire solo catalog is soulless, ball-less crap. the police have a few good songs, but when they do that 'white-boy-reggae-from-england' shit, it's just absymal to the point of nausea.

richard wood johnson (rwj), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe it's not saying all that much, but I was watching a friend's dvd of Live 8 recently and, for my money, Sting's three song set was the best thing on it. I thought he and band definitely brought some stadium sized cajones and ROCKED. Especially the first two songs: "Message in a Bottle" and a surprisingly powerful "Driven to Tears". Yes, they're both Police tunes but he still wrote 'em and played the sh*t out of 'em. Don't know anything about the man off stage, but I can see how his persona might push one's buttons. What I do know is that the "Ghost in the Machine" tour that I saw in Austin is still in my top five. Up there with OK Computer tour Radiohead, So tour Peter Gabriel, Ivo Poposov and his Bulgarian Wedding Band, and Muddy Waters tour w/ Johnny Winter. I might be let down but, I'd go see them again if they play near enough.

Particlewave (particlewave), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm1/3 of the way through Andy Sommer's new memoir. Loving it! The man writes extremely well. And his story is pretty cool, too. It's so much more than a mere policeman's recollection. A highly evolved report of cultural continuum from an agent deep inside. Up there with Dylan's 'Chronicles', IMO.

I flipped thru this at a bookstore awhile back and have to say I was flabbergasted when Sommer declared himself the most influential and innovative rock guitarist since Jimi Hendrix. All those years standing so close to Sting must take a toll on a guy's ego.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Does he actually claim that? hrmm... Well, I havn't got to that page yet. So far, he's been relatively humble.

Particlewave (particlewave), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
A friend points out that Sting now looks like Dr Smith from Lost in Space.

"COPELAND, YOU PLUNDERING PRIAPIC PERCUSSIONIST!"

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh the king of pain, the king of pain

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

They wouldn't do pop music anymore which was the only thing I liked them for

roger whitaker, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard the '86 remake of "Don't Stand So Close to Me" on Monday at the cleaners and damned if it didn't sound better than the original. The first 45 seconds -- the textured guitar, ominous synth, Sting's voice floating in the ether -- are killer.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The completely new intro is better, but as soon as the song becomes the same as the original, I prefer the original.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I flipped thru this at a bookstore awhile back and have to say I was flabbergasted when Sommer declared himself the most influential and innovative rock guitarist since Jimi Hendrix.

I don't know about all that but back in the early 80's when I played guitar, I damn near gave up because I thought shit, I'll never be able to play like that guy in the Police!

I didn't even realize that I was BETTER than him! To his minimal credit-- it's almost like being responsible for all of 80's hair-- he created that heavily-chorused arpeggiated style that who knew wouldn't age well! I thought I should just quit! I didn't realize it then but I could have been in the Melvins or some Sub Pop band back in like '82. You have to trust your instincts, I guess.

I had my Big Muff and I wasn't afraid to use it, Until I was.

I blame Andy. (props to him for being in some 60's bands I like now though!)

Saxby D. Elder, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

About the lute album: a DJ whose show usually ran the gamut of contemporary classical music played almost all of it on his show last semester, and got more calls that night than he had gotten in the three years before combined.

Also: I actually kind of like the lute album. Better than the fucking Police, is for sure.

the table is the table, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Last weekend I bought a ticket to see them here in June (for the lowest price possible). I tried to start a thread
about it but got very little response. And I've told several friends that I'm not ashamed, I want to go, and I don't care.

So let's see if nu-ILX cooperates with me and actually lets me post that link correctly.

Bimble, Thursday, 1 March 2007 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, what do you know!

Bimble, Thursday, 1 March 2007 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link


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