Sonic Youth's "Dirty" v. Sonic Youth's "Dirty" w. loads of extra stuff

I wouldn't be surprised if the b-sides were more interesting than half the album itself.

I like SY a lot but I'd never heard Dirty. I was waiting for the re-issue but I saw it really cheap in a charity shop.
I'm very interested in sound quality so I thought I'd hold out for the re-mastered version anyway but then I noticed it was produced by Butch Vig and mixed by Andy Wallace. I got the original, it sounds fantastic. Can the re-master really be any different?

Never had a big prob. w/ Dirty (other than that they left off 'Genetic') and seeing as SY essentially always work w/the same 'sonic palette' - gtr-based rock - then details/differences of production etc. can make all the diff. I like the fact that there's at least one SY alb w/ a big booming expensive rock sound, and when it syncs w/ a gd song/performance - 'Chapel Hill', 'Wish Fulfillment', 'Theresa's Sound World' etc. - it's really thrilling, mersh move or not.

Other SY alb most like 'Dirty' - 'Murray St'!

But for real, what happens with me when I am really involved with this album is this: I listen to it, pref w/headphones, and then I listen to some other CD with guitars on it and I am completely underwhelmed by that other CD, even if it is something like Van Halen II or Maggot Brain. Dirty is basically the most simultaneously fucked-up and catchy album, guitar-wise, I've ever heard (I've heard more fucked-up ones and more catchy ones, but none that do both equally at a consistent level like this one does). "Sugar Kane" is one of my ten favorite songs ever mostly because it goes from a hook that's some approximation of indie-rock AC/DC to the sound of a two-story high engine block pressing plant completely imploding (aka a "solo"). Most of the songs actually do this pretty well, it's just that "Sugar Kane" is the most, well, explicit.

Er, what else? The reissue liner notes are great because it details Kim smashing acoustic guitars and ergo pissing off hippies during their '91 tour with Neil Young. This is also the best album Ian Mackaye has ever appeared on.

In the case of "100%," I think you mean to say, 'without a hook.' ;-) (Obviously there is one but I don't find it very compelling -- you know, like Andrew WK but with pretensions.) But it's an interesting point of comparison. I don't know, at the time it came out I think I was already tired of alternative as constructed and the Butch Vig backwash on Dirty just made me shrug. I remember being disappointed that there wasn't anything on Dirty as good as Goo's "Mote," which I still have a strong suspicion will come down as my favorite SY song ever ("Hyperstation" is probably number two).

So, the only thing being added to this new "Dirty" that's worthy is stuff already on the CD-singles?

(Keep in mind, I'm also in that small camp that thinks that "Goo" is possibly their best record.)

Thus Murray Street.

Wait, if this bonus stuff is the stuff on Peel or Mark Goodier sessions, then I already have it and never listen to it.

Ian Mackaye appears on "Youth Against Fascism". Alec was part of the group that originally wrote "Nic Fit." And Nate is totally OTM about that and many things in that post.

"I've been around the world a million times and all you men are slime" -> 100% = classic. For that drum break too.

I've listened to Cop more over the years, so yes.

Was this the 'Wake Up, Manchester' record (according to Sounds or Melody Maker)?

I bought the deluxe version from a nice man on the market yesterday. I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I had forgotten about Sonic Youth. I feel that I have been successfully targetted by Universal's marketing department. It feels good.