omg JAN JELINEK PLAYING AGANE.....!!!!

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so whos going? this is like, the most important thing for me right now, after seeing him at the spitz. even after the last album was not so good... its on 30th may btw. at 46 kingsland rd, whatever that is.

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

and for us non-londonites, he's playing in birmingham as well..

http://www.a-v-a.co.uk

I hear he has his own "visuals" guy, i've never seen him live, whats so special?

jk_ (jk@gabba), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You should go. Just saw him tonight & it was a really lovely set--very restrained & managed to tease everyone in the audience with whispers of 4-on-the-floor, but never quite kicking it. Much more ambient than the records, although he did play bits & pieces of the new one.

Thomas Fehlmann played with him & rocked it hard. Schaffelfieber.

wselman, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
This should interest some folks:

New Jan Jelinek Album

Artist: Jan Jelinek

Title: Kosmischer Pitch

Label: Scape

Cat No: SCAPE 032

Release Date: 10/25/2005

Back in the heyday of Krautrockpeople often talked of ‘Cosmic Music’ – even then, the term‘Rock’ was approached with plenty of caution. In the early 70s,Kosmische Kuriere spawned the Cosmic Jokers whose songs flaunted extravaganttitles like “Galactic Supermarket�, a more than apt description oftheir sound. While bands like Popol Vuh began to experiment with early Moogsynthesisers, Holger Czukay’s Can claimed to aspire to a ‘plasmaticsound’. This era was all about sound blurring, flow, a musical hazinessof sorts, perceived as a transcendental moment, with the pioneers of electronicmusic on a quest for liberation. And the fact that these musicians, all bornand bred in post-war Germany, decided to repair to imaginary outer space topursue their aims, should most certainly be considered a political statement:everything they did was about escaping the confines of their own country.‘We want to create beautiful music’, Tangerine Dream explained,‘far removed from all those expressions of hate, aggression anddespair’. And yet, this outlook had nothing to do with escapism, butrather with disconnecting themselves from formal constraints. Airy vibrationsinstead of earthy rock. Although the obvious parallels to Sun Ra’s spacediaspora might seem uncanny, they hailed from an entirely different context andvery different experiences.

Jan Jelinek’s new album „Kosmischer Pitch“ (Cosmic Pitch)holds plenty of allusions to this era. While “Lemminge und Lurcheninc.� (Lemmings and Amphibians) might seem to refer back to AmonDüül’s 1971 double album “Tanz der Lemminge� (Dance of theLemmings), “Planeten in Halbtrauer� (Planets in Semi-Mourning) isreminiscent of Arno Schmidt’s “Kühe in Halbtrauer� (Cows inSemi-Mourning) and thus cites yet another relentless chronicler of post-warGermany who refused to carve himself a cosy niche in his native country.Nevertheless, you will be hard-pressed to find any direct references orconcrete quotes to, for example, Can or Cluster. Jan Jelinek merely extractstiny fragments to serve as loose associations. Back in 2001, his“Loop-Finding-Jazz-Records� had staked out a similar referenceframework without actually making it audible: although these recordings weresourced from old jazz records, the resulting music – to paraphrase aformer INTRO author – consisted predominantly of “minutely atomisedsounds, extremely freely woven crackle and snap noises exuding a shimmeringsense of calm�.

For “Kosmischer Pitch“ Jan Jelinek decided to work with loops andlayers. In a way, the outcome really does sound ‘plasmatic’ andties in with the drifting sounds of the early seventies – not by way ofrecycling, but at the most by reconstructing a certain mood. This album is allabout tranquillity, submersion in sound, and tracks that might just as wellextend to twenty, thirty minutes or even a whole two hours. In this,“Kosmischer Pitch� draws on the rationale of those variants ofmodern music deliberately unconstrained by the song format: whether La MonteYoung’s minimalism, psychedelia or deep house – all these auralforms of expression were and remain about circumventing any conventional senseof time, thus creating, by means of carefully placed modulations, a sense ofendless intensity. Naturally, even these tracks come to an end eventually, butonly because great beauty can also trigger exhaustion. The “Pitch�referred to in the album title exploits this premise of rising above time andrefers back to the arrangement idea of “wild pitch� deep house,thus pursuing a two-fold consolidation process: of tracks resp. layers andintensity.

By transforming this basic principle of drifting into something audible - hismusic, albeit blurred, has always been transparent, hiding nothing – JanJelinek forges a new connection: from Conny Plank’s studio, the masterconsole of early 70s Electronica, to Detroit and back. Moreover,“Kosmischer Pitch� is the exact opposite of retro, deliberatelyforgoing references to a specific time or place for vibrations that defylocalisation. In 2006, Jan Jelinek will take this principle to the stage: notas a laptop solo artist, but together with guitarist Andrew Pekler (Scape) andHanno Leichtmann (Static, White Hole, VSQ) on drums.
(Martin Büsser)

Via FE Publicity Email

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Jan Jelinek is good.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
This new album is SO good, definitely his best (and I was already a big fan of the one before that). I was gonna drop the Popol Vuh comparison, but I now see that the press release has it covered. Anyway, very hippie Easternish drone stuff, in a 'Letzte Tage, Letzte Nacht' vein.

Baaderonixx says DANCE!! TAKE A CHANCE!!! are you ready for... TRUE ROMANCE (baa, Monday, 31 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

This record is better than good. I really hope that people tune into this one because it is pure class.

HPrimeau, Monday, 31 October 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

kosmicher pitch really is super nice. it reminds me of dreamy psychedelic 70s soft rock crossed with a more organic and loop-oriented version of the books (minus any vocals) plus jelinek's trademark crackles and attention to detail. the crackles are a lot more in the background this time around.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

Finally someone is taking notice! I can't believe how much this is being slept on. The first track on side B is rocking my world right now.

Baaderonixx says DANCE!! TAKE A CHANCE!!! are you ready for... TRUE ROMANCE (baa, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't feel Kosmischer Pitch, at all. Which is strange because I always liked Jelinek and I love Kosmische Musik in general. I dunno what it is, somehow his sound doesn't excite me like it did around La Nouvelle Pauvrete or his Fraben stuff. Maybe I'm getting jaded. :(

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lotsofco.org/archives/jelly2.jpg

amon (eman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

This will probably be in my year-end top 10, though I will always love Farben above all.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Parts of this, especially "Lemminge und Lurchen Inc.", sound exactly like The Residents.* I'm thinking of late-70s stuff like Duck Stab and Not Available.

*Well not exactly: the timing is slightly tighter, and there's no cartoonish vocals.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

as was stated in the Onion's AV Club, Kosmischer Pitch was better than Campfire Headphase. Hard to believe.

thoughts?

Mon Star2 (hydraulis2), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

very easy to believe but i haven't heard KP yet.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

i think the review pretty much nails it w/r/t how differently the artists are evolving their aesthetic. they both seem to be going through a process of refinement with very different results. now that i really think about it they really do make quite a pair to compare! the songs seem to be an emergent property of jelinek's loop-finding and the twilight atmosphere that hangs over his record whereas with the boards it's like you get songs first and then they apply their ageing process. kosmicher pitch sounds way less labored over; whether that's true or not i don't know. if you add four tet's everything ecstatic to the list, you'd have a fitting soundtrack for a trip through the scenic wilderness of your choice.

tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

is this review online? Yes, agreed with Tricky, KP sounds very spontaneous. It comes across as a series of loose krautrockish "jams", but for a record based on sampled snippets, that must have taken a LOT of work.

Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

here is the review pitting Jelinek against BoC. I've heard of him before, but this review actually caused me to get the record and I'm pleased.

http://avclub.com/content/node/42249

hydrallus (hydraulis2), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

KP is really nice, and easy to listen to. Perhaps because Jelinek has been around awhile his works don't have that shock of the new anymore? I still think he's great at what he does. It's sort of the same case with the new Thomas Brinkmann record, which doesn't really change his sound as much as refine/excel at it.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

i disliked the new thomas brinkmann album on first listen...maybe i need to check it out again.

i would say that jelinek is way less easy to listen to than the boards, but i can easily pick out his work (like the boards). this new album is a departure though even if it is only in terms of source material (somewhat like the boards)...jelinek is way more artsy in his approach though (repurposing disco/house and then jazz and now krautrock). with the boards it's a more down to earth feel, almost homey -- we wrote these songs on acoustic guitars...so maybe the difference is one of preference of pretentiousness?

i have been having a jan jelinek fest on my ipod as i just ripped all of his cds...i think my favorite album is the one he did as gramm. i am going to hunt down the one he did for eastern developments which i didn't even know about until yesterday. wish i had the starbox.

tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

I guess I mean easy to listen to as in it's very accessible for a "laptop krautrock" record. Still plenty of detail to revel in though.

I felt like a techno snob when I couldn't stand the guitars on the new Boards. It made the songs a bit too upfront for me?

Re: Brinkmann, it felt a little weird on the first time for me (the poppy vocal tracks seemed a bit displaced,) but has really gelled on further listens.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

i don't mind the guitars on the boards so much, but yeah, i can definitely see where you're coming from. the guitars on KP caught me off guard actually.

i'm surprised there aren't more posts in this thread as it's the only jan jelinek thread on ilm.

tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Well the thread title is a bit weird!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

true, but it shows enthusiasm!

tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Curious -- do y'all think you could pick out the krautrock homage without the title and advance word? To me it's pretty subtle like everything he does.

Also like this record a lot and have been having my own Jelinek fest on the iPod.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

I actually noticed a bit of the connection before I clicked on this thread, but mainly because I was listening to the Lindstrom/Prins-Thomas beforehand and had some Krautrockish thoughts on the brain. But I agree it's pretty subtle on its own, although the guitar tone/ seems to be the biggest hint for me.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

For me the cover gave it away. It has this weird faded taint that's pretty linked to that era. The guitar tone and the jam aspect also quickly brought to mind Popol Vuh.
I have the three Jan Jelinek -scape albums, what else should I check out?

Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Woah, laptop krautrock. Nice genre name, even though we all know they are false and put pigeons in those lil... recessed areas or whatever.

So who is credited with this German takeover? Ulrich?

hydrallus (hydraulis2), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

what else should I check out?

Farben!!!! Textstar! (so much better than KP.)

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Was Kosmischer Pitch a slow grower for you people? Because after two listens, I can't find anything memorable or astounding on this record. I think I was expecting a bit more "out sound"; it plays pretty straight.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

the second half is what did it for me. the more abstract tracks are at the beginning. the hidden track at the end is really bizarre like he's trying to wake your ass up.

re krautrock homage: yes, i think i could pick it out just from the tunes, but i am a krautrock novice. the krautrock aspects to me are the droney guitar loops and percussion. i suppose loop-finding-krautrock-records isn't a very palatable title.

tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

i totally misread this thread as JANDEK PLAYING AGANE!!!

ken taylrr never her (ken taylrr), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Inspired by this thread, I brought 'Loop-finding...' to work and it's amazing how much better the album sounds on my computer speakers than on my stereo at home. Weird...

Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

That is weird -- what about the bass?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

"Was Kosmischer Pitch a slow grower for you people? Because after two listens, I can't find anything memorable or astounding on this record. I think I was expecting a bit more "out sound"; it plays pretty straight."

some tracks hit me straight away and made me perk up my ears to it, some of the other ones took a little time. it is a very subtle record in my opinion and wins you over in a strange way, sort of in the way that bands like seefeel did over a decade ago. it is not a very immediate record, but it is a very powerful record none the less. i have loved a lot of records this year, but i would have to say that this one in particular is definitely going on my year end list and most definitely in the top 10.

HPrimeau, Friday, 18 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Beautiful record.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

i still havent heard this! i also left textstar in washington and probably havent heard it since 2003. i should re-buy it.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
Jelinek played last night at Tonic in New York with a guitarist and drummer and the band were very impressive, very rock. (Zip was DJing downstairs so it was a nice counterpoint, although frustrating that both were happening at the same time.) the peaks were much more intense than what you get on the record, similar to the way Stereolab (or whoever) likes to go way out there when they play their songs live.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 27 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
New record came out this week I believe. "Tierbeobachtungen" is the title, translates to "animal observations." Sounds like it's a continuation of Kosmischer Pitch. There's a song called "Up to My Old Trick Again." Gotta love that sense of humor!

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

i found this record really boring and i liked KP a lot. fairly simple loops phasing in and out with none of the intricacy of the previous record. maybe i'll connect with it one late night.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, I haven't heard it at all, except for "Old Trick," which I played on the radio and thought sounded good enough in that setting. I definitely liked KP a lot too. I'd be sad if this wasn't great. Any other opinions?

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

More opinions please! I feel I still haven't exhausted KP, but I'll probably get the new one asap.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, long quote ahead but this is pretty funny...

The animal is experiencing a renaissance in music. It provides a reflective surface for our notion of the unbridled and irrational, of that Other the philosophers Deleuze/Guattari - as part of their ‘Animalisation’ - called the embodiment of artistic deliverance. And yet, how much of a liberation can art actually tolerate? To what extent can music truly throw off its fetters without descending into chaos?

Jan Jelinek’s new album title provides a first hint of this development: like the above, ‚Tierbeobachtungen’ (animal observations) deals with the issue of release and liberation. Recorded almost in transit, while preparing his move to a new studio, the tracks reveal and relish in their improvisational character, a drifting lost in sound, yet never lose sight of their underlying structure. ‘Tierbeobachtungen’ might constitue Jelinek’s freest and most personal work. Simple arrangements with tracks based on four to five layered and modulated loops, while his own studio equipment provides the main sampling sources, from synthesizer and guitaret to vibraphone. And, not least of all, more than any of his previous albums, ‘Tierbeobachtungen’ picks up on Jelinek’s live appearances.

Nevertheless, Tierbeobachtungen’ steers clear of all animal emulations, does not succumb to the myth of the wild and unfettered, but merely – as the title implies – aims to observe. The tracks’ intoxication never exhausts itself in unbridled expression - the observer’s post, a level of reflection, remains audible throughout. On the other hand, this is by no means intellectual, distanced music. On the contrary: Jelinek leads us straight into a thicket, an acoustic jungle where sumptuous splendour meets the uncanny. A long tradition of psychedelic music pervades the recordings – Amon Düül, Cluster, My Bloody Valentine … yet whatever musical memories might vie for our attention, these are no clear-cut references, just loose associations. Jelinek side-steps the overly tangible.

All tracks pursue a common principle. They well up slowly, a period of concentration, of taking shape, followed by equally rapid dissipation. On occasion, we might even be tempted to take them for field recordings - gems discovered, stored and returned from their travels by ethnologists fifty or a hundred years ago. Jelinek’s tracks provide tantalising glimpses of acoustic treasures from faraway lands, without ever divulging their true heritage. Similar to the pioneers of industrial music, like Cabaret Voltaire or Zoviet France, who back in the early 1980s experimented with field recordings to challenge western listening habits, ‘Tierbeobachtungen’ takes us to new, unknown territories and brims with sounds that defy geographic or stylistic classification, not unlike the semi-conscious state between dream and awakening, always a little cryptic, yet never overly romantic. Overt romanticism is also precluded by Jelinek’s sense of humour, which rears its head in titles like ‚Palmen aus Leder’ (palm trees of leather) and prevents us from taking the album’s mystic overtones too seriously.

Since the 1990s Jan Jelinek has been working with sounds as a musician, producer, using various pseudonyms for his many projects. Releases under his own name include the albums ‘Loop-Finding Jazz Records’ (scape, 2003) and ‘Kosmischer Pitch’ (scape, 2005), the latter a drifting loop vortex peppered with subtle Kraut references.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

That last sentence makes me LOL.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the review was good. he describes the music very well and that is difficult to do with this sort of thing.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 3 November 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

also he makes me want to listen to it again.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 3 November 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

kosmischer pitch is grate

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 3 November 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

I found a used white label of La Nouvele Pauvrete this other week, am listening to it, and it's great! Sort of thing I needed, the question now is why I slept on it all this time.

mehlt, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

His new project sounds really interesting. I'm quite curious to hear it.

Edward Saroyan, Thursday, 7 May 2009 02:21 (sixteen years ago)

and 14 tracks cooked up a tasty looking jan comp recently:

http://14tracks.com/selections/55-the_loop_finding_jazz_records_of_jan_jelinek

sam500, Thursday, 7 May 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

and i'm very anxious to hear this: http://www.scape-music.de/Artist/details/scape/groupshow/

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 7 May 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

seven months pass...

So dude's pretty much hands-down the best musician of the decade, right?

EDB, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

He did cover a ton of ground, and it's v. cool that he never looked back, just kept doing what was interesting to him.

Mark, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

Still like his early 'micro-house' albums the best. Loop finding is a bit of a classic.

sam500, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

been vibing HARD on Loop Finding these last few days. there's one moment (2.54 into Tendency) that i can't stop thinking/grinning about. And it's just one note that's slightly higher than anything else on the record.

Dwight Yorke, Thursday, 1 April 2010 08:35 (sixteen years ago)

sorry, 3.43

Dwight Yorke, Thursday, 1 April 2010 08:36 (sixteen years ago)

Got a used copy of Tierbeobachtung a while back, still have to get around to listening to it, but I should in the new few days. Looking forward to it.

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Thursday, 1 April 2010 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

Jelinek played last night at Tonic in New York with a guitarist and drummer and the band were very impressive, very rock. (Zip was DJing downstairs so it was a nice counterpoint, although frustrating that both were happening at the same time.) the peaks were much more intense than what you get on the record, similar to the way Stereolab (or whoever) likes to go way out there when they play their songs live.

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i don't remember this gig AT ALL.. :(

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

loop finding is the bollox

sam500, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

what ever happened to Jelinek? I'm still regularly playing his krautrock mushroom album

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

^ me too, love that and Tierbotungenengunen or whatever it is. he did just release a new Farben 12", btw.

nerve_pylon, Sunday, 25 September 2011 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

five years pass...

So I see on Apple Music that he's been releasing a couple of EPs in the last 3-4 years.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 August 2017 10:35 (eight years ago)

eight years pass...

"A Concert for Television" off Tierbeobachtungen hitting like a truck today, just really lush.

disco stabbing horror (lukas), Friday, 13 February 2026 13:31 (two months ago)

Over the years, Loop Finding has become one of my favourite albums of all time. I could play it ten times in a row and it would still feel fresh and cleansing, which makes it sound like a facial product.

LocalGarda, Friday, 13 February 2026 13:33 (two months ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6wMFp73lik

Ulla & Jan Jelinek - Live At Funkhaus 29.03.2024 from this recent Giegling comp

wonder if a full recording is out there somewhere.

they definitely have adjacent aesthetics, a collaboration album would probably be really cool.

brimstead, Sunday, 12 April 2026 18:54 (yesterday)


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