Metallica - "Enter Sandman" : C or D?

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I never really liked Metallica. They've got some brilliant moments on "Master of Puppets" and such, but a lot of the time I find them plodding and humorless.

But not on this one. This is fun cheesy metal at its finest! Now this is some shit I can headbang to! Metallica's most popular song for good reason.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

A great song is a great song. Great fuckin' huge monster riff, great gravelly, sinister delivery. Lots of sonic ooomph! What's not to like?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I dislike it. It's such a stupid simple riff, a monkey could learn how to play it. I don't know; more likely than not this is just a reaction to hearing it in sports stadiums all the freakin' time. Actually I'm thisclose to selling my copy of the Black Album. It has a couple good songs it, but I have too many cds and I can live without that record. I'll never forgive them for sucking when they were on such a roll after And Justice For All....

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Monkeys playing Metallica = best thing I could possibly ever imagine. Thank you for improving my day tenfold with this image.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

They're not already?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Hetfield's more like an orangutan...

It was all downhill after Cliff Burton died. Now they should all be shot. I say this as a survivor of the absolutely horrid hype-landslide involving their "stint" with the SF Symphony. BLECH.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

this song was notably largely absent from the Metallica POX thread. still, it's the song that got the 12 year old me into metal..

Wyndham Earl, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's such a stupid simple riff, a monkey could learn how to play it.

Since when is the technical complexity of a riff any indication of its merit? You've been hanging out with too many prog-rock fans, Mr.D.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

classic

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw this included in a lame laser show once. The lasers drew out a timid, praying boy and a sort of Danzig-style devil with hefty jaes and ram horns towering over the boy. No motion, no action, just the parying kid and the devil guy in suspended animation for thye duration of the song.

Fivvy (Fivvy), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Since when is the technical complexity of a riff any indication of its merit?

So OTM it's not funny. If it were meant to be mind-bendingly complex, it wouldn't be called a riff.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It's totally better if monkeys can play it anyway, don't you people see this?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Overplayed dud. Cheesy riff, lame-ass chorus ("Exit light! Enter night!"), overblown delivery, irritating solo.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

You hate Metallica, I see. It's ok, I'm not dead set against that point of view myself. But these things you complain of... these things ARE Metallica.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Nothing wrong with simplicity. I'm saying that given the compositional sensibility I'd come to expect from Metallica, the whole Black Album just felt like a massive letdown. I mean that was one of the most anticipated records of my youth. They had been the kings of 80's speed/thrash complexity and they were revealed to be out of ideas.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Their idea was to be on the radio.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda like Kill 'Em All and various things from their other 80s albums but I still think this song sucks.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a dandy bit of psuedo-cheese, though I must confess I keep thinking of the Ben Stiller parody about the boy who switches bodies with his father (Fred Willard!). My little sister use to sing it like this: Off to Never Never Land! There you'll meet-a Peter Pan!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Overplayed dud.

That it's overplayed (which I'll agree with) is not the song's fault. It's not my favorite song of theirs by a long stretch, but I know a great track when I hear it. FUCKIN' OWN UP TO IT! Everyone's panning it here because it was Metallica's "big sellout" single. SO WHAT IF IT WAS? Big Fuckin' Deal! They didn't want to keep their underground cred like those other bands and were eager to advance to the next phase (I patently refuse to further beat to death the haggard "take it to tha next level" soundbyte). Bless'em. They pulled it off.

That they fell apart quality-wise afterwards is a topic for a different thread.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

no no no, Alex, I don't care about "sellout" status (not in this case, anyway). The problem is the great thing about old Metallica was that they were *fast* and aggressive, but with those weird classical ambitions that would drive them to intercut their low-end speed-riffage with artfully-constructed, more meditative passages.

By contrast "Enter Sandman" is a mid-tempo plodder with terrible lyrics and none of their past songs' complexity. It was like they were trying to be grunge band by slowing everything down and doing a 3 1/2-minute classic rock single with "scary" vocals. Which is not something they were ever good at, and not what I wanted to hear from them. If I wanted mid-tempo sludge I'd rather listen to, oh, Mudhoney...

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sad but True" is classic

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate hate hate this song. I remember being excited to see Metallica on the grammies or Mtv awards or something and then they played this and I got really pissed off, like "you're fucking Metallica, you're onstage at the grammies, millions are watching you, you can do whatever you want and you're going to play this shit?!?" It made me feel like an idiot for ever liking Metallica, like now everyone will only know Metallica by "Enter Sandman" and get the wrong idea about people like me. What a dull, plodding, nothing of a song. And, not that he was ever great, but what the hell happened to Kirk Hammet between ...And Justice for All and the black album? Every solo he's played since then has just been this cheap wah-wah-wakka crap. One of the stupidest videos ever too.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember a guitar world (or something) transcription of this song that punctuated the chorus, "Exit: Light! Enter: Night!" which pretty much says it all.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

next level (ka-boom!) shit from Metallica, for me, is probably "Nothing Else Matters," "King Nothing," "Hero Of The Day," and most of all "Whiskey In The Jar." But "Enter Sandman" would probably be included on my personal "More Bands Should Sell Out: The Best Of MTV's Metallica" mixtape.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.metalboerse.de/shop/pics/metallicametalupv.jpg

Best t-shirt ever.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

A great song definitely, although I hold "Nothing Else Matters" and "The Unforgiven" as their prime moments.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm changing the title to my imaginary mixtape tape to "More Bands Should Sell-Out...Every Night: The Best Of MTV's Metallica."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I think most of the post-black album stuff I've heard by them (which isn't much) is better than anything on the black album. Sub-Alice In Chains to sub-Hellacopters is kind of a step up. "Whiskey in the Jar" is great.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"Whiskey In The Jar" reaffirms that these fuckers have the chance to SAVE HARD ROCK, in the sense that they, along with Queens Of The Stone Age, could remind other bands that you don't have to be such a gloomy-gus all the time just cuz Layne Stanley was. Though somehow I doubt they will on St. Anger.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm all for selling out, but if it means abandoning something you're good at (no matter how indifferent I am to it) for something you're bad at (i.e. tunes), you could sign a pact with Satan and resurrect Toscanini to conduct your orchestra and I'd still slit your throat with a burnt CD.

Less metaphorically, I hope you all agree that Phil Lynott owns "Whiskey in the Jar".

B.Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, the Pogues own "Whiskey in the Jar". And if not them, than the Dubliners.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate this song, midtempo = lam0rz, Metallica for me was always about the speed metal.

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

GEIR HONGRO listens to "ENTER SANDMAN"??? I think my head just exploded.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

What, are you saying that song doesn't have a melody?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

can't...answer...head...exploded...

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin Lizzy OWNS Whisky In The Jar

Davlo (Davlo), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"whiskey in the gyroooooo-aaah!!"

original bgm, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

classic.

i've only heard the black album, "battery" and some misfits covers or something (i think), so i can't rate it like the troo fanz, though.

also, my best pal's stepdad in his wedding photo looked like james hetfield.

brian badword (badwords), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Remember it being the reason for my purchase of the Metallica alb, i swore by it back in the day but got sick of it pretty quickly, can't figure out why i liked it much really. tho the video is still awsome.

rexJr., Wednesday, 30 April 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

While I totally agree with Alex in NYC's principles stated on this thread, I have to say I think this song sucks a big fat fucking cock, for several reasons - foremost, it sounds a little too quaint to be really evil and kickass etc., and secondly, said weakness was not helped by hearing every goddamned shitty peanut rock 4-piece cover it, at least every one I've seen since 8th grade. Oh, that would be all of them. Every time I hear this tune I start to turn into jess.

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheesy riff, lame-ass chorus ("Exit light! Enter night!")

It's like Andrew Lloyd Webber for 3-year-olds!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer my dad's drunken version which goes something like "ex-cell-ent! Dy-naaa-mimiite! Off to nevuhneuhmumble*snoooorrre*"

Its grate :D

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

compatible for medley with:
disco inferno;
what goes up must come down.

bob snoom, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, no one "owns" "Whiskey in the Jar," as it's now a traditional Celtic standard, rendering it public domain.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't give a shit of Frank Sinatra made 'em cry when he sang it at Carnegie Hall or whatever. All I know is that "Whiskey In The Jar" gave Hetfield the chance to fully unleash his pirate voice in a context that actually made sense. And it fucking rocks with a glee that's totally rare in hard rock radio today.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud.

maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but Thin Lizzy's version is still better, Ant. Pulp's live version is not bad either.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a bootleg of an early incarnation of the Sisters of Mercy doing it, and as drunk, sloppy, poorly-recorded and shambolic as it is, it's fuckin' LIGHT YEARS better than Metallica's rote rendition of it.

Although it didn't have a video featuring foxy boxing lesbians trashing a house to go with it, so I guess it's inferior in that capacity.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so fucking pissed I didn't have MTV for so many years.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM&feature=player_embedded#

awesome. though what it really needs is a vocal by tracey thorn.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

Evil child within the man / doing evil while he can...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwn5y3XNDIg

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:14 (sixteen years ago)

i am sorry but that is unwatchable

goole, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

boy, that sucks. i'd rather watch a ca. 1991 metallica video. the parody of MTV camera angles is funny though.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

I accidentally turned on my local rock station yesterday and they were playing a mashup of this with "Don't Stop Believin'." I was actually really hoping for the actual song.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

Is the dad Fred Willard?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 00:32 (sixteen years ago)

you guys suck

latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:11 (sixteen years ago)

uh wrong thread

latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

ok i lied i just felt bad for thinking that stiller sketch was funny

latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:35 (sixteen years ago)

i was lashing out and i'm sorry

latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:36 (sixteen years ago)

i still remember where i was when i first saw the video for this. stefano's pizza, knoxville tennessee.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:45 (sixteen years ago)

" i just felt bad for thinking that stiller sketch was funny"

it is pretty funny! or pretty baffling at least. why is it duff and not rikki rachtman hosting headbanger's ball? why invent a fictitious bodyswap movie to intercut with enter the sandman, and why would it star pauly shore? It's a parody of things that don't exist!

The Brian Posehn's enter sandman parody is also similarly baffling.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

that's because it's based off of a mr show sketch he wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmNApZRy3wk

latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:09 (sixteen years ago)

next level (ka-boom!) shit from Metallica, for me, is probably "Nothing Else Matters," "King Nothing," "Hero Of The Day," and most of all "Whiskey In The Jar." But "Enter Sandman" would probably be included on my personal "More Bands Should Sell Out: The Best Of MTV's Metallica" mixtape.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:57 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

o_O

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

I never really liked Metallica.

stopped reading thread after that. this song rules.

blank, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

my nephew, who was born in 2000, loves this song and has memorized metallica's entire discography. i've never much cared for them myself but for that reason alone, classic.

geeta, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

Sad But True and Wherever I May Roam are both better Metallica sell out songs.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

this is probably one of my least favorite metallica songs, maybe because i'm subjected to it whenever i put on the radio but probably just because it's not their finest hour!!

markers, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

next level (ka-boom!) shit from Metallica, for me, is probably "Nothing Else Matters," "King Nothing," "Hero Of The Day," and most of all "Whiskey In The Jar." But "Enter Sandman" would probably be included on my personal "More Bands Should Sell Out: The Best Of MTV's Metallica" mixtape.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:57 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark

anthony is right!

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

"Enter Sandman" is my 4th favorite Black Album single but still great. i go "BOWWWW" every time the drums kick in and the truck hits the bed.

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't come around to Metallica for like 15 years because of shit like this. The Load singles are (even) worse, I'll grant that, but still - as a 12-year-old listener catching on to rock for the first time, next to stuff like Nirvana "Enter Sandman" was straight up corny and dated even in 1994.

thewufs, Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

lol i was about to be all "CLASSIC" but looks like i already gave this one a drunken revive.

still, CLASSIC

so confused (blank), Friday, 1 July 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

i remember the first time i heard this song, riding through the grapevine coming back from san diego. it was cloudy.

so confused (blank), Friday, 1 July 2011 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not gonna say it's a bad song. But I must make it clear that they were one of my very favorite bands until the moment this one debuted. And then I just quit listening to them over night.

This was the exact moment that they jumped the shark, and you cannot convince me otherwise. Poor Cliff was rolling over in his grave like rotisserie gyro meat.

Nate Carson, Friday, 1 July 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

seven years pass...

https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_pq5008AV3w1ynqgip.mp4

pplains, Sunday, 28 April 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

It's 100% classic, but I never want to hear it again. Having said that, I'd rather listen to Load than Metallica these days. It just sounds fresher to me, whereas half of Metallica is more than a bit played out to me.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 April 2019 22:45 (six years ago)

Good to see Lars expanding his repertoire.

Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

Sad But True and Wherever I May Roam are both better Metallica sell out songs.

― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:45 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ x100

cat skills, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:32 (six years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd_UcjMusUA

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:15 (five years ago)

I love this. Not because it's hard to play a song down after listening once, or because of his drumming (and he's obviously an incredible drummer, that right foot is unreal). It's because it highlights how great Lars's choices are. They're non-standard and yet perfect for the song, and every variation (whether it's missing an accent or tossing in some chops) would be worse on the record.

That's what I learned from Lars, his sense of composition. Judging from the comments people seem to think it makes Lars looks bad, and people love to dunk on him, but I think it's the opposite, thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:48 (five years ago)

aw i watched this video the other day, it's great

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:51 (five years ago)

big fan of drumeo in general tbh, their videos are so interesting and have been so helpful for me learning the drums

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:58 (five years ago)

three years pass...

this song lost a ton of cool for me as a kid when I realized "exit light" didn't mean Peter Pan and everyone were flying and Peter had just located the exit to get off of to get to Neverland and actually meant that "lol it's dark because it's night now"

if this site were a food it would have NO nutritional value!!!!!!! (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 August 2024 19:41 (one year ago)


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