OPX: Filthy Acid Techno

Ooooh, well, any afficionado of filthy acid techno who pursues the genre long enough will sooner or later discover the many releases on Bunker of an outfit called Unit Moebius, and then their head will explode.

There's another tune with a big ? over it called or at least with a sample "pure love pressure" which I can't find by googling anywhere, or at least not without wading through christian sites.

Rebel Yelle - "Mizbehavinit"

london/liberator acid=bad. new york/frankfurt roxx u r all gay.

my acid 10, which doesnt fit your parameters but hey, these are much better

rising sons - afghan acid.
hardfloor - lost in the silver box.
pump panel - ego acid.
hardfloor - hardtrance acperience.
millsart - step to enchantment.
equinox - pollux
hardfloor - into the nature
walker - red light district vol III
fuse - substance abuse
fuse - fu2

DJ Hell - Sprung Aus Den Walken
80 AUM - Mind Controller
Pump Panel - Ego Acid
Joey Beltram - Game Form
Humanoid - Stakker
FC Kahuna - Bleep Freak
Laurent Garnier - Astral Dreams
LFO - We Are Back (Acid remix)
Fuse - FU
Daft Punk - Rock n' Roll

i'm not sure half of those count, and i'm not sure i've even heard Chris Liberator which is a bit worrying - but its the best i could do

(haha I just figured it was stuff off the it's not intelligent, it's not from detroit, but it's fuckin havin' it comp, which I found in the $5 bin @ real groovy; but self-destructed halfway through the second track).

gareth, you namby pamby northern softy.......

Chris Liberator - London Acid City
DJ Evolution - Milkman's Backside
Hardcore Disco - Junglist Son of an Angry Bastard
Kektex - Inner City Junkies
Spawn - Tension
Acid Casuals - Filthy Pitch
Subhead - Roger Rog
And the Univeral Indicator mix CD for a straight hour which easily accounts for the other three.

Fuck! That was a lot easier than I expected.

Yeah, Universal Indicator.

Also Underground Resistance - Death Star.

Gotta second F.U.S.E.'s Substance Abuse
and add Plastikman - Helicopter

Seawolf!

doesn't chris liberator have a song called 'hackney council are a bunch of cunts' or something? That is really funny

and then someone else has a song called 'my 303 has a picture of christian liberator on it'

i second Seawolf

i second the whole idea of this thread, i think it's great

a lot of stuff on Sabrettes is good like this, i know i go on about it but Chelsea Grin is good and Pod - The Podville EP is awesome

Unit Moebius is ridiculous, it's like once you've heard the first 15 seconds you've heard the whole thing but of course that's good in this case, it's almost trance the way it pounds out a reverbed distorted slam. the one in the metal CD case is good.

Emmanuel Top - "Lobotomie" gets pretty filthy at the end

isn't it weird how acid house hasn't "come back" like at all? feel free to prove me wrong, however!

It hasn't come back the third time, you mean, Tracer? Cos unless it's just my distorted perception, it first came around between 1987-1989 (Phuture et al), disappeared for a couple of years, then started round two from Europe in about 1992 (Hardfloor et al). The two periods have slightly different feels. The first round was loved-up, minimal, sexy, cheap and full of 808, the second was hard, processed, dark and full of 909.

the second time, you mean.... yeah it mushes together for me since i didn't start listening to techno until 94, weird maybe but i'm American you know, we still think it's a big deal when derrick carter plays out

does acid house have a legacy, do its feelers extend into today's music? WILL ITS LINE CONTINUE??

Oh yeah, sorry Tracer, the second time. Well, acid has become like a string to the bow for many artists. I can't really speak for all of them obviously. However, there are still people writing and releasing acid house, definitely. One of them is me hahaha! For many artists it still invloves the 303, but a lot of experimenting with low-tech ideas generally.

If you really like acid and you're American, you can check out the early Chicago and Detroit stuff like Phuture, Tyree, Candyman, etc. It's hilariously low tech and somehow very freaky-sexy. Slower too, more of a pumping dance groove. You prbably know all this. Not to get on one, but Americans are often unaware of the early treasures at home, in Detroit and Chicago. It's this stuff that the Euproepans all got into. nYou've probably heard that too, sorry for being a bit didactic but I'm sure you appreciate where I'm coming from.

Must check spelling before posting! Naughty naughty Colin!

it just seems weird that with all the retro electro crap going on the acid synth sounds have been studiously avoided, despite their filthy/nasty/tweezy/squelch-sex connotations

What do you mean, no acid? Tons of hardstyle tracks I hear today are driven by a filthy 303 line. So if you're not afraid of HARD kickdrums, proceed directly to:

Asys From Past To Phuture
Bend Over Ein Guter Dag Zum Sterben
DJ The Crow meets DJ Arne Lii The Speed (The Crow meets Arne Remix)
Überdruck Bloody Slut (Überdruck Mix)
Megamind Taub (Picotto Mix)

Shit that has to be Ein Guter Tag Zum Sterben.

Hmm... thing is would you recommend that list to people who like either London underground/Liberator DJs type stuff OR, say, Force Inc type records from about '93?

What I mean is, I see Uberdruck and The Crow on hard house bills all the time but am immediately put off by the fact they're supporting Fergie or some toytown mong like that... having said that, the few times I've been at festivals and stumbled into hard house tents I've always been taken aback by how, well, hard it is. But there's no deviation or invention to speak of, for the most part. Not that I'm hearing anyway.

Ok Sigbran but it's thoroughly avoided in all electro-whatever shows that I've gone to see, and trust me, these guys are not going to play hard house. hard house is actually what i was thinking of above, about a "lineage", a lot of it sounds like Unit Moebius but with like 40 more tracks layered on, more sheen, is this what the tracks you list sound like?

I love Chris Liberator, Hardfloor and Unit Moebius! So yeah, I'm recommending that list. Because these tunes are well produced and better and more original than 95% of the material in the genre. Like I said, if you like noisy 303 lines and if you're not put off by big kickdrums on principle, I think there's a good chance you'll like these tunes. That's not to say you'll like hardstyle as a genre...for the record, I don't like Fergie or UK hardhouse, and only like Dutch/German hardstyle in moderate doses. I don't know how Überdruck/The Crow sets sound live but I probably wouldn't be able to stand a full set (and judging from his own productions, it would probably feature only two or three 303-based tunes amidst a barrage of big breakdowns and minimalistic kick&bass-only tunes, so it wouldn't be interesting for acidheads). There's maybe one or two great tracks coming out of that scene every month and I try to find that. Some of these tunes are just cool on their own, without the whole genre context.

samples here:
crowarne_sample
bendover_sample
asys_sample

awesome, Siegbran, some of this sounds almost like "hardcore"

Ah 'Seawolf'....sweet memories. Might as well add 'Acid Rain'.

I've just noticed that 2 of my tunes got missed off my list, but I can't for the life of me remember what they were. What happened?